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Posted on 05/05/2013 8:19:31 PM PDT by virgil283
Salon.... lol
It is salon...
Here is the intent of one of the founders.
Society in every state is a blessing, but government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.
Thomas Paine, Common Sense, 1776
One of the others said that the best government is the least, being local and then state. Then way at the bottom is the federal.
I think this makes more sense than that: La-bibbida-bibba-dum La-bibbida-do.
There are some great things to a government in a nation. When they are sparsest, they are best.
There are some terrible things to a government in a nation. When they are the most onerous, they are the most terrifying.
You may quote me.
I’ve noticed a real assault on libertarians by the left recently.
Not on their social positions, the left seems fully happy with those.
Actually the left and rinos are even starting to use ‘libertarian’ to describe many of their views and positions.
Once upon a time, the interests of the left and of libertarians overlapped.
No more.
No....The left hates libertarians more then the social conservatives. One thing the left and so -cons have in common is to keep the heavy hand of government in your life.
Libertarians want to keep go back to the founding fathers and the Constitution and have a limited role for government.
In other words, anarchy is unstable. You get rid of one government, and the people (in self-defense) must create SOMETHING to replace it, something that will organize protection against random predators.
When Rome fell, there were no more Roman legions to maintain order and hunt down bandits and raiders. So feudalism had to come into being, where the local rich man created strongholds to protect the harvests against raiders, and hired armed men to protect the territory.
So if we abolish the government we'll be overrun by zombies? Oh wait, if the government is abolished all those government workers will be set loose. Makes sense, actually.
Destroy civilization and rebuild it along Marxist principals.
It is an insane idea - and not just because Marx was himself a loon.
Our civilization takes thousands of years to develop The American republic was once the culmination, the acme of three thousands years of Greco-Roman, Judeo-Christian, Anglo-American cultural advancements.
It is now being destroyed over the course of mere decades.
It cannot be replace overnight — not by anything other than a Frankenstein's monster of a society.
Winston Churchill was eerily prescient: “...the whole world, including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science.”
And here it is after a better proof-read:
That has been the goal of the Bolsheviks all along.
Destroy civilization and rebuild it along Marxist principals.
It is an insane idea - and not just because Marx was himself a loon.
Our civilization took thousands of years to develop. The American Republic was once the culmination, the acme of three thousand years of Greco-Roman, Judeo-Christian, Anglo-American cultural advancements.
It is now being destroyed over the course of mere decades.
It cannot be replaced overnight — not by anything other than a Frankenstein’s monster of a society.
Winston Churchill was eerily prescient: “...the whole world, including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science.”
LOL, that is childishly ridiculous, laughable, no one is more hated by the left and the media than the 80% conservative voting Evangelicals.
The media and the left share the social leftism of the libertarians, and more and more rinos and liberals embrace libertarian views on social issues and rightfully call themselves libertarian.
Social liberals are massively, overwhelmingly democrat voters and Obama supporters.
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And, this is because we have a much better chance of controlling the politicians if they are at the local level. We can also do it more easily at the state level. However, once you get to the national level, it is very hard to control what these people are doing.
I know that, you know that, but convince others.
So far as I know, most libertarians have no problem with a state that protects lives and property.
They even think such a minimal state would perform those tasks better than the kind of government we have now.
Wilson is one of those SF geeks, who apparently aren't any better at attacking libertarianism than they are at defending it.
Truly trying my best to understand that last line in a terribly written article and the best I can do is come up with an analogy: To experience the birth of an effective alternative to our current law breaking regime, we must first tear down the GOPe tent before we can re build a true Conservative party.
As a matter of fact I plan on doing just that Laz. You so accurately described the role governments can play in two concise sentences so we can properly communicate with the Obama zombie nitwits. Brevity is indeed the soul of wit.
Godspeed Friend.
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