Posted on 05/06/2013 4:46:47 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
Winston S. Churchill, The Hinge of Fate
3 Drives Converge (Kluckhohn) – 2
Hill 609 a Jagged Monument to Yanks Who Made History (Middleton) – 3
War News Summarized – 3
American Forces Pour Past Mateur – 4
Somber Moment for a German Prisoner (photo) – 4
Red Army Moves – 5
Soviet Premier Offers Tie with Poland after War (Parker) – 6
Sikorski Tempers Praise of Message – 6-7
U.S. Flier, Minus Leg, Back in War; Loren Hillsinger Ends Tradition (Bracker) – 7
Big U.S. Bombers in Action in China (Atkinson) – 8
The Texts of the Day’s Communiques on the Fighting in Various War Zones – 10-12
Delinquency Cases Up One-Third Here – 12
http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1943/may1943/f06may43.htm
Allies advancing in Tunis
Thursday, May 6, 1943 www.onwar.com
British 5th Corps troops on the move [photo at link].
In Tunisia... The British 5th Corps breaks through the Axis front and advances toward Tunis. The German 15th Panzer Division is destroyed in this new attack that is supported by massive artillery and air bombardment. Farther north, US forces advance on three axes toward Bizerta, Ferryville and Protville. The Free French 19th Corps approaches Pont du Fahs.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.etherington/frame.htm
May 6th, 1943 (THURSDAY)
UNITED KINGDOM: Escort carrier HMS Patroller launched.
Corvette HMS Dumbarton Castle laid down. (Dave Shirlaw)
GERMANY:
U-764, U-977 commissioned.
U-1021, U-1022 laid down. (Dave Shirlaw)
NORTH AFRICA: The British V Corps destroys the 15th Panzer Division with heavy artillery and air bombardment as they move towards Tunis.
TUNISIA: US forces are advancing towards Bizerta.
The French XIX Corps are advancing towards Pont du Fahs.
PALESTINE: Haj Amin al-Husseini, the mufti of Jerusalem, protests to Bulgaria for allowing Jewish children to sail to Palestine; he says they should be deported to Poland.
U.S.A.: Submarine USS Batfish launched. (Dave Shirlaw)
ATLANTIC OCEAN: U-630 sunk in the North Atlantic NE of Newfoundland, in position 52.31N, 44.50W, by depth charges from destroyer HMS Vidette. 47 dead (all hands lost).
U-531 sunk in the North Atlantic NE of Newfoundland, in position 52.48N, 45.18W, by depth charges from destroyer HMS Vidette. 54 dead (all hands lost).
U-438 sunk in the North Atlantic NE of Newfoundland, in approximate position 52.00N, 45.10W, by depth charges from sloop HMS Pelican. 48 dead (all hands lost).
U-192 sunk in the North Atlantic SE of Cape Farewell in position 53.06N, 45.02W by depth charges from corvette HMS Loosestrife. 55 dead (all hands lost).
U-125 rammed and sunk east of Newfoundland, in position 52.30N, 45.20W, by destroyer HMS Oribi and gunfire by corvette HMS Snowflake. 54 dead (all hands lost).
(Dave Shirlaw)
stalin was lying sociopath
stalin was lying sociopath
I’ve been reading Antony Beevor’s one-volume history of the Second World War, and it sheds some interesting light on the rivalries between Roosevelt, Churchill, and Stalin. Uncle Joe had FDR absolutely snowed...no surprise really that FDR liked Stalin much better than he liked Churchill. Churchill didn’t want to go along with selling Poland out to the USSR but he knew there was no alternative because Stalin held all the cards in Eastern Europe after 1943, and his country had sacrificed millions upon millions of people to stop Hitler.
Stalin played FDR and Churchill off against each other brilliantly...and apparently, he also had Lavrenti Beria’s son in charge of bugging all the rooms at the Casablanca, Tehran, and Yalta conferences so that the Soviets knew all of the private conversations and strategy between the American and British.
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“Stalin for a strong,free,Poland” has got to be one of the top bitterly ironic headlines from the NY Times.
It is right up there with the one they ran right after Cambodia fell to the genocidal Khmer Rouge communists:
“SE Asia without Americans; For most a better life”
The leftists love of communist thugs goes way back at the Slimes. At least to when Walter Duranty in 1933 won a Pulitzer Prize for the Slimes when he covered up the mass murder of millions in the Ukraine in Stalin’s orchestrated Terror Famine. Duranty was an eye witness to this atrocity, yet wrote in his dispatches to the Simes that times were hard in the Ukraine but there was no famine when he privately admitted that perhaps 10 million had been murdered.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5igrzjt5jO0
Even though this scandal has been long exposed, the Slimes still has Durrantys pic hanging in their awards room!
OBAMA SUPPORTS ISRAEL
OBAMA SUPPORTS ISRAEL
Obama supports America similarly.
Beginning of the end for the German U-Boat war in the Atlantic?
ATLANTIC OCEAN:
U-630 sunk in the North Atlantic NE of Newfoundland, in position 52.31N, 44.50W, by depth charges from destroyer HMS Vidette. 47 dead (all hands lost).
U-531 sunk in the North Atlantic NE of Newfoundland, in position 52.48N, 45.18W, by depth charges from destroyer HMS Vidette. 54 dead (all hands lost).
U-438 sunk in the North Atlantic NE of Newfoundland, in approximate position 52.00N, 45.10W, by depth charges from sloop HMS Pelican. 48 dead (all hands lost).
U-192 sunk in the North Atlantic SE of Cape Farewell in position 53.06N, 45.02W by depth charges from corvette HMS Loosestrife. 55 dead (all hands lost).
U-125 rammed and sunk east of Newfoundland, in position 52.30N, 45.20W, by destroyer HMS Oribi and gunfire by corvette HMS Snowflake. 54 dead (all hands lost).
“U.S.A.: Submarine USS Batfish launched. (Dave Shirlaw)”
I toured the Batfish in the late 60’s when she was berthed at the New Orleans Naval Station. Cub scout thing.
The most vivid memory of that day was throwing rocks off the gangway into the thick Mississippi River mud and hearing a satisfying “PLOP” when they hit and disappeared.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Batfish_%28SS-310%29
Oh come on you guys; you are just piling on poor ol’ Uncle Joe. He says that if the Polish people so desire, they will be in an alliance with the USSR against the Germans, and then you get on him for supposedly not keeping his word. He did honor that; Poland was in an alliance with the USSR against Germany. The western half of it, anyway. And the Polish people did so desire. At least according to how Stalin had the votes counted. So give the guy a break.
Do I really need the sarc tag?
Moose, I liked your post. Far too many people of conservative bent have, in my opinion, unfairly attacked FDR for “betraying” or “giving away” Poland to the Soviets. I always ask them to answer one question: Tell me the date when the United States Army abaondoned Poland and turned it over the the Red Army? The answer is that it never happened. The Soviets wrested Poland from the Germans by conquest as they were on their way to Berlin. A look at the map of as of the date of this article makes it obvious that the outcome was unavoidable. And once the Red Army occupied Poland, there was nothing short of war with the USSR that was going to get it to leave. We tried what diplomatic and economic leverage we could on Stalin, but the simple fact was that he wasn’t going to give up Poland and he knew the United States and Great Britain were not going to resort to armed force to kick him out.
You look at Stalin’s photo attached to this article, and even though it is dated even in 1944, you can see his personality in those cunning feline eyes of his. He was brilliant, ruthless, cruel and with an incredible capacity to work. Once he divined a goal, he never deviated from it and would pay any price to get it. Just what the Russians revere in a leader.
He did play FDR and Churchill against each other. He knew, far better than Hitler, how to drive a wedge between them. Churchill wished to preserve the British Empire, FDR wanted it liquidated. Stalin knew of this difference and exploited that fundamental wedge issue for all it was worth. FDR was also far too trusting of Stalin. Stalin trusted nobody, except for a brief period from 1939-1941, when he trusted the one man nobody should trust, Adolph Hitler.
You kinda wonder why Doenitz didn’t say to himself, “Hmm, suddenly the enemy is finding all of my subs, out of an area comparable to a continent. What could be causing this remarkable new ability?”
Naval Enigma was read uninterruptedly from here until the end of the war, eventually within 24 hours.
Even if the increased rate were attributable to other causes, losing the boats, in itself, is a sufficient risk to SIGSEC to beef up Enigma, especially when the Kriegsmarine was already the only branch to handle Enigma with the caution it warranted.
Same thing with Berlin? Could at least one of the American or British armies have beaten the Soviets to Berlin? Most certainly. The Germans had stacked the Eastern front because they knew (from experience in East Prussia and the Warthegau) what was going to happen when the Red Army swept over the Oder and into Berlin. Commanders were running their troops west to surrender to the Americans and British as fast as they could. But...Stalin had made it plain that he wanted Berlin and the allies had already agreed to it. Also, he flat-out lied to FDR and Ike when the Reds started their last massive offensive on the Seelow Heights. He told FDR there would be nothing more than a “reconnaissance in force.” Well, yeah, if “force” meant two million men.
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Uncle Joe's proposal for Poland's Eastern border mostly followed the Curzon Line, proposed for the Post-WWI border by British Lord Curzon. It roughly represented the ethnic boundary between the Poles and other East Europeans, such as White Russians, Lithuanians and Ukrainians. After the Red invasion of Poland after WWI, they conquered a substantial amount of land to the east of the Line, which the Poles kept until the 1939 invasions.
The main problem wasn't the boundary, but the fact that Stalin planned to set up communist puppet states in the countries under Soviet occupation. I agree there wasn't a darn thing the Brits or Americans could do to change the Soviet position short of war.
Churchill did push hard to compensate Poland with German land to the West by eventually adopting the Oder-Neisse Line. The border changes displaced millions of Germans, but it's real hard to feel sorry for them after what they had inflicted on Eastern Europe.
The die was cast for Berlin at Yalta when the occupation zones were finalized. Ike had a good read of the situation; why spend American lives for ground we are going to give up? Let the Soviets spend the blood. They were used to it. Another factor is that the American armies had reached their logistic limit in the dash from the Rhine to the Elbe. Even though the German forces were scratch units, the Soviets had been stopped by the same type of units on the Vistula in September 1944 and the Oder in February 1945.
By the time the logistics caught up with the lead units, the Soviets launched the Berlin Operation. Better to let the Soviets come to the Elbe than risk a “meeting engagement.” There is some evidence the Soviets wanted the Americans to feel the power of Soviet artillery.
Finally, while the German people and military preferred Americans to Russians, Hitler didn’t make such fine distinctions. He would have moved whatever troops he could from the Oder to defend Berlin from the Americans.
So maybe we could have grabbed Berlin, but that wasn’t in the cards either. In many ways, all this was decided in 1941.
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