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Feds Duck Controversy--Restore Prize For Stamp Art to 6-year-old Girl
Fox News ^ | May 6, 2013 | Joshua Rhett Miller

Posted on 05/06/2013 12:33:38 PM PDT by SgtHooper

A 6-year-old South Dakota girl who was initially accused of cheating in a federally-sponsored art contest was restored as a winner, and her painting of a duck is again on track to be used on a U.S. postage stamp.

A 9-by-12-inch oil painting of a canvasback duck by Madison Grimm, of Burbank, S.D., was declared the winner from some 29,000 entries in the 2013 Federal Junior Duck Stamp Contest. In addition to having their artwork immortalized on a stamp, winners receive a $5,000 scholarship. But days after the April 19 announcement, U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service officials said Madison — whose father is a wildlife artist — had used an illegal transferring technique. The agency then crowned Peter Coulter, 17, of Missouri, for his acrylic painting of snow geese.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/06/south-dakota-girl-6-reinstated-as-federal-art-competition-winner/#ixzz2SXiKB5Rg

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Arts/Photography; Hobbies; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: duck; duckart; duckstamp; painting; stamp

1 posted on 05/06/2013 12:33:38 PM PDT by SgtHooper
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To: SgtHooper

She was re-instated, but does anyone think she can draw that well? And the fact that her father is a professional artist and had won a previous context? Hmmm, something is fishy here.


2 posted on 05/06/2013 12:35:14 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: SgtHooper

context = contest. Wish we has editing previleges on our own posts. :-)


3 posted on 05/06/2013 12:36:15 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: SgtHooper

has=had


4 posted on 05/06/2013 12:36:32 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: SgtHooper

Arooooo Wonk Wonk. The grammar police are coming for you!


5 posted on 05/06/2013 12:39:51 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: SgtHooper
I thought it was done by the husband of that female cop in Fargo?


6 posted on 05/06/2013 12:39:59 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SgtHooper
This is her entry:

A 6 year old? Frankly, I would have to watch her do something right before my eyes before I believe her dad didn't have a hand in this.

If not, then she is a prodigy. Like a once in a generation prodigy.

7 posted on 05/06/2013 12:41:04 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (LBJ declared war on poverty and lost. Barack Obama declared war on prosperity and won. /csmusaret)
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To: SgtHooper
Wish we had editing privileges on our own posts. :-)

Ditto.

8 posted on 05/06/2013 12:41:35 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: SgtHooper

She looks and sounds like an intelligent little girl. Congratulations to her for winning!


9 posted on 05/06/2013 12:43:54 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: SgtHooper
"...contest officials initially disqualified his daughter for using a graphite transfer from an unpublished photograph he took years ago. Rules of the contest clearly state that a design may not be copied or traced from published photographs or artwork, he said."

I don't have a problem with an artist using a graphite transfer technique. Artists do it all the time. The only objection I can see is if the photo she traced was published. They apparently were attempting to avoid copyright issues. Apparently, it was an unpublished photo, so no foul.

10 posted on 05/06/2013 12:44:52 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: SgtHooper

It’s entirely possible that the girl is a prodigy.


11 posted on 05/06/2013 12:45:24 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Sans-Culotte

>> Apparently, it was an unpublished photo, so no foul.<<

It looks like she ducked the problem after being caught in a web of regulations.


12 posted on 05/06/2013 12:47:33 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (LBJ declared war on poverty and lost. Barack Obama declared war on prosperity and won. /csmusaret)
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To: SgtHooper

Mozart composed pieces at age seven. His father was a musician.....


13 posted on 05/06/2013 12:54:07 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: SgtHooper
She used one of daddy's unpublished photos for the transfer.

Seems like she should have used one of her own unpublished photos to be legitimate.

14 posted on 05/06/2013 12:54:32 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to detonate anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: wideminded
Wish we had editing privileges on our own posts. Ditto. Second that. Any chance of that happening?
15 posted on 05/06/2013 12:55:36 PM PDT by Bon of Babble (It was ME. I Let the Dogs Out.)
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To: SgtHooper
She was re-instated, but does anyone think she can draw that well? And the fact that her father is a professional artist and had won a previous context?

The fact that Daddy is an artist actually make it more probable that the work is hers. Parents tend to pass on their knowledge to their offspring especially if the offspring shows talent.

16 posted on 05/06/2013 12:56:44 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Join AAAA : Americans Against Acronym Abuse)
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To: freedumb2003

High levels of artistic talent run in families.


17 posted on 05/06/2013 12:57:27 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: freedumb2003

“It looks like she ducked the problem after being caught in a web of regulations.”

That might be a fowl.


18 posted on 05/06/2013 12:59:04 PM PDT by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s are the Muskets of the 21st Century. Free men need not ask permission.)
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To: freedumb2003

I think they have video or pictures of her painting.


19 posted on 05/06/2013 1:04:34 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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20 posted on 05/06/2013 1:04:50 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: freedumb2003

What people call a prodigy is often just ghe result of an environment rich in a specific discipline, a lot of parental input and reward for achievement. People use the term prodigy as if describing a freak of nature because they don’t want to face the fact that a high level of parental involvement combined with a high-information household is the difference that makes a difference.


21 posted on 05/06/2013 1:05:50 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: freedumb2003

Agree... looks a little too good to be true.


22 posted on 05/06/2013 1:07:19 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: freedumb2003

That was a great wise quack


23 posted on 05/06/2013 1:13:37 PM PDT by llevrok (2013: America is in a cold civil war.)
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To: kabumpo
People use the term prodigy as if describing a freak of nature because they don’t want to face the fact that a high level of parental involvement combined with a high-information household is the difference that makes a difference.

There are motor dexterity things that a family can NOT teach to a 6 year old -- this also applies to musical instruments and in some cases singing and other arts.

You could teach arithmetic to a 6 year old, but it would be all but impossible for that 6 year old to discover calculus ON HIS/HER OWN.

Bottom line, if a 6 year old can paint like that then he/she is a "freak of nature" (your unfortunate choice of words -- I would have "a talent so rare as to be well beyond 99.999% of people of the same age irrespective of environment") or has been "helped" by "parental involvement."

24 posted on 05/06/2013 1:20:05 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (LBJ declared war on poverty and lost. Barack Obama declared war on prosperity and won. /csmusaret)
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To: SgtHooper

My only question is why these jerks are having contests...Shouldn’t they be trying to break even?


25 posted on 05/06/2013 1:54:36 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: carriage_hill
“It looks like she ducked the problem after being caught in a web of regulations.”

That might be a fowl.

I think they have to prove that she had mallard aforethought.

26 posted on 05/06/2013 1:56:08 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great -- until it happens to YOU...)
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To: Migraine
Touche!
27 posted on 05/06/2013 1:58:40 PM PDT by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s are the Muskets of the 21st Century. Free men need not ask permission.)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice
I think they have video or pictures of her painting.

See here.

28 posted on 05/06/2013 2:13:14 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: SgtHooper

Ludicrous. Rembrandt couldn’t paint that well when he was six. Six-year-olds may be brilliantly talented and have a fabulous eye for color and form, but this image shows a mastery of technique that even people who become successful professionals must study for years to grasp. The handling of the water and the light on the duck’s neck is that of an experienced pro. Let the young lady sit down and show her skills in front of witnesses who are not family members; then I’ll believe.


29 posted on 05/06/2013 2:24:09 PM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare--now a Marine Mom)
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To: cynwoody

I watched that video. Didn’t see her pick up a paintbrush. I saw the hand movements of a talented child as she used a pencil to color in some dark areas, but did not see her mixing paints, applying them, blending, adding detail—anything.


30 posted on 05/06/2013 2:29:38 PM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare--now a Marine Mom)
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To: ottbmare

Ditto. Nothing in the video showed the ability needed to produce the winning picture. Although I would like to believe that if her prize was reinstated, the judges were convinced it was her work. Is it possible photos we are seeing are of the father’s photo and not her painting?


31 posted on 05/06/2013 3:03:32 PM PDT by informavoracious (We're being "punished" with Stanley Ann's baby.)
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To: SgtHooper

Having worked for an artist, who comes from a long line of artists, and having seen artwork from Chinese prodigies, yes, it is possible for a 6 year old to draw/paint that well.


32 posted on 05/06/2013 3:21:43 PM PDT by hawaiianninja (Palm note to self: It's a Depression and a Cold Civil War. Pray for the America!)
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To: SgtHooper

It is not unusual for a child whose age is in single digits to be the equal or better of her artistic parents. This girl will probably get there a bit early.


33 posted on 05/06/2013 4:10:27 PM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: SgtHooper

with the new GDP rules, will this give it a bump?


34 posted on 05/06/2013 7:41:05 PM PDT by jyro (French-like Democrats wave the white flag of surrender while we are winning)
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To: ottbmare

My sentiments exactly. Even if it was color by the numbers, it would require some skill in smoothing, shading, edges, etc. Way too suspicious for me.


35 posted on 05/06/2013 9:07:31 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Bon of Babble
Wish we had editing privileges on our own posts. Ditto. Second that. Any chance of that happening?

I've been on FR for a long time and I haven't seen too many changes around here, so my guess is no.

Apparently some practical aspects of the site, including the fact that we add HTML by hand, are viewed as laughably antiquated by some people familiar with other forum sites on the Internet.

But the site isn't run for profit and and as far as I can tell all changes are made by one guy who can only work on it part time. Maybe they could find some trustworthy volunteers to do an update.

FR does work pretty well without a lot of fancy stuff. In some ways the relatively sparse design is an attractive aspect.

The ability to correct typos after posting would be nice. But maybe there are some good reasons for not allowing people to go back and edit or remove their remarks.

36 posted on 05/06/2013 10:45:05 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: muawiyah

lack of artistic talent (like this) runs in my family:

http://crappykidsart.com/


37 posted on 05/14/2013 1:01:37 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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