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Vt. man offers burial plot for Boston bombing suspect
WCAX ^ | May 07, 2013 | Ali Freeman

Posted on 05/07/2013 4:20:01 PM PDT by APatientMan

HARTFORD, Vt. -

"She was a Sunday school teacher. She taught me 'love thine enemy.' You can't always live up to that, but she would be standing right here beside me supporting what I am doing today if she were still alive," Paul Keane said, holding a picture of his mother.

The longtime former Hartford High school teacher, Paul Keane, says his mother is buried at the Mount Carmel Cemetery in Hamden, Conn. The Hartford, Vt., resident is offering to donate the empty plot next to his mother to bury the Boston Marathon Bomber.

He blogged, "I am willing to donate a burial plot next to my mother in Mt. Carmel Burying Ground to the Tsarnaev family if they cannot obtain a plot."

But for some Connecticut residents with loved ones buried in the cemetery, Keane's offer is offensive.

"It's a disgrace," one said. "A lot of these people who are here, including my father, fought for freedom for their country. My father was a war hero and people who are terrorists in this country should not be in this cemetery."

Keane says the offer was a matter of living up to his religious values.

"This person, no matter how much of a pariah, no matter how despicable, no matter what a leper he is-- is a human being and deserves the right to be buried like anyone else." Keane said.

Some of Keane's Vermont neighbors are also against his offer, and say the memories of the marathon are still too fresh and painful.

"A little kid was killed. That is pretty hard to swallow," neighbor Neil Potter said. "So, I have some pretty strong feelings about all that stuff, and I love this country and if anything happens to it, it offends me."

WCAX News also spoke with several other neighbors who are not opposed to Keane's offer and say it is simply a kind gesture and nothing more. The Tsarnaev family has received other offers for a burial space, so at this point it is not clear what locations are being considered.


TOPICS: Local News; Religion; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: tsarnaev
I started to post a comment at WCAX. Figured I'd see what other FReepers have to say. Should be interesting.
1 posted on 05/07/2013 4:20:01 PM PDT by APatientMan
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To: APatientMan

Someone could make some money with bus tours to the gravesite and selling toilet paper to the passengers.


2 posted on 05/07/2013 4:21:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: APatientMan

On the one hand it is/was our culture that allowed for compassion...our present day culture has degraded to the point that the idea of America is no longer possible. Khrushchev was right after all.


3 posted on 05/07/2013 4:22:59 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: APatientMan

Cremate him and flush his ashes down a toilet at the nearest truck stop ... problem solved.


4 posted on 05/07/2013 4:24:59 PM PDT by doc1019 (There is absolutely no difference between pro-choice and pro-abortion.)
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To: APatientMan

IMO, he is doing the right thing...he is seeing the “Bigger Picture”that we are all God’s beloveds....much like when Pope John Paul forgave his would be assasin...


5 posted on 05/07/2013 4:25:14 PM PDT by georgia peach (georgia peach)
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To: APatientMan

If Tamerlane isn’t buried in an anonymous grave his resting place is forever going to be soiled by pig offal and human waste. That’s just the way it is in America.


6 posted on 05/07/2013 4:25:33 PM PDT by Rebelbase (1929-1950's, 20+years for full recovery. How long this time?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I started with a similar response, but kept going back to “Keane says the offer was a matter of living up to his religious values.”

My Gram would have told me to not cast the first stone. Makes it dilemma to me.


7 posted on 05/07/2013 4:27:43 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: APatientMan

Moronic jackasses all over New England are offering burial plots for this Muzzie POS. I guess all that “Boston Strong” stuff was nothing but bull****.


8 posted on 05/07/2013 4:29:06 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (America is the root cause of violent crime in Mexico. - Barack Hussein Obama Jr.)
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To: gorush

“On the one hand it is/was our culture that allowed for compassion...”

Agreed. It’s a paradox.


9 posted on 05/07/2013 4:29:39 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: APatientMan

This whole thing is stupid. Even criminals and terrorists need to be buried somewhere. The terrorist’s family should pay for it. Having said that the cemetery owners are within their rights to refuse but I don’t understand why. Stick him in some unmarked grave somewhere and be done with it.


10 posted on 05/07/2013 4:29:46 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“Moronic jackasses all over New England are offering burial plots for this Muzzie POS.”

What would God want us to do, though. That’s the question. To me at least.
I don’t agree with what this guy is doing. I’m just not sure he’s wrong...


11 posted on 05/07/2013 4:32:25 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: gorush
This whole burial side-show has been awful to watch.

I'm glad this man is offering everyone involved a gracious way out.

12 posted on 05/07/2013 4:33:25 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: APatientMan
I think the great whites usually return to the Massachusetts area about this time of year. Sharks gotta eat, too.
13 posted on 05/07/2013 4:35:30 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: APatientMan

P.T. Barnum said there’s a sucker born every day.


14 posted on 05/07/2013 4:37:57 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: APatientMan

From Matthew: [And Jesus said] “Follow me, and let the dead bury their own.”

Or - they could just ship him to Detroit and they can put him in with all of the other unclaimed bodies that they have on ice. (Now THAT is a sad story).


15 posted on 05/07/2013 4:38:51 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: plain talk

“Stick him in some unmarked grave somewhere and be done with it.”
I guess that’s where I’m parked, too. He lost, we won. The war continues.


16 posted on 05/07/2013 4:39:44 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: doc1019

Well, it is a Christian cemetery. I doubt if the family will permit it.


17 posted on 05/07/2013 4:40:37 PM PDT by ruesrose (The Anchor Holds)
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To: billorites

“This whole burial side-show has been awful to watch.”

It is a side-show. I don’t think God wants us dancing on his grave - if we’re gracious enough to provide him one.


18 posted on 05/07/2013 4:43:45 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: kaehurowing

“P.T. Barnum said there’s a sucker born every day.”

I’m not worried about PT Barnum. He and God can settle up however they need to.


19 posted on 05/07/2013 4:45:31 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: APatientMan
feh...
20 posted on 05/07/2013 4:49:14 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
"Moronic jackasses all over New England are offering burial plots for this Muzzie POS. I guess all that “Boston Strong” stuff was nothing but bull****."-FlingWingFlyer

Not just New England. . .

Actually, there's an as-yet-not-well-known imam in Colorado who is offering a plot for Tamerlan's burial. Here's the rub . . .

"Offers to accommodate Tsarnaev’s body have been made by individuals, churches and mosques from “almost the entire eastern seacoast,” and as far away as Wyoming, the funeral director said. link

The founder of the organization that built Colorado's largest mosque, Sheikh Abu-Omar Almubarac, is offering to bury suspected Boston bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev in a Denver-area Muslim cemetery.

same Sheikh which influenced CO slaveholder, Homaidan al-Turki's sentence reduction

Colorado authorities investigating whether murder of Department of Corrections official tied to refusal to free Saudi man convicted of sexual assault of woman he held as slave

21 posted on 05/07/2013 4:49:40 PM PDT by wtd
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To: Chode

Honestly, the part that struck me as true Vermont Liberal was that he lives in VT and is offering a place in Connecticut. That sums up VT libs to a T.
I do think the guy is genuine though. He’s trying to be a good Christian with this act. Whatever his definition may be.


22 posted on 05/07/2013 4:54:56 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: APatientMan
and what about the families of the people buried around this plot? what about them???

mercy for the evil, is torture for the innocent!

make his family pay for/take his wretched azz back where he came from... /2¢

23 posted on 05/07/2013 5:03:39 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: APatientMan

He should be dumped at sea. Like Adolph Eichman, like Osama Bin Laden. Any eartly grave will become a shrine, for pilgramages.

Witness Pere LaChaisse cemetery in Paris which is overrun by hippies coming to see Jim Morrison (of the Doors) because some idiot said, “OK, go ahead and plant him here.”


24 posted on 05/07/2013 5:07:25 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Chode

This is why I posted here. No dodging the honesty and reality of it.


25 posted on 05/07/2013 5:14:58 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: shalom aleichem

It would make it easier to spot them - you have to admit.


26 posted on 05/07/2013 5:16:16 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: no one in particular
Whatever twisted evil animated the vile maggot is now gone, somewhere . . . what's left is a rotting sack of fertilizer.

Treat it as such.

27 posted on 05/07/2013 5:20:09 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: APatientMan
100%
28 posted on 05/07/2013 5:20:44 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: ps

.. this guy in VT is a mewling dhimmi


29 posted on 05/07/2013 5:22:21 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: APatientMan
If a person is really serious about offering a burial plot because they're a good person and believe in “love thine enemy” then they don't advertise it and put it out all over the media,they do it secretly and quietly and don't tell people where the plot is. Because once this guy did that, it was all about him. He wants to bury the guy next to his mother, making sure his mother's grave and any one else buried nearby will have their stone and grave site trampled on and possibly destroyed, because people will do that.

Just cremate the guy and throw his ashes in the ocean.

30 posted on 05/07/2013 5:26:01 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: georgia peach

This isn’t the first time a high profile murderer has been buried.

So why has finding a cemetary been such a problem this time?

I don’t know for sure, but I suspect the fallback burial plot for high profile murderers is a prison cemetary. So, I’ve questioned why this episode has reached ‘crisis’ levels....burying the remains of the unwanted has been done before.


31 posted on 05/07/2013 5:27:43 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: APatientMan
I swear, as soon as I read that they were looking for a burial site, I thought "he'll wind up in Vermont for sure!"

Has Ben & Jerry's named a flavor after him yet?

32 posted on 05/07/2013 5:31:19 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: tomkat

Don’t hold back. Tell me how you really feel.

Would God want us to bury him and be done with it or spit on him and let him rot? Honest question. Not that we can’t do both, I guess.


33 posted on 05/07/2013 5:31:25 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: APatientMan
I recall a part of the novel, How Green Was My Valley, that they kept out of the movie.

A 10 year old girl was raped and murdered. The entire town lead by the reverend, searched every home and found the rapist and murdered.

The reverend asked the men assemble what to do with the beast.

He was handed over to the father and brothers of the girl murdered.

The reverends final words to them, was, "when you are through, do not pollute the ground with his body."

34 posted on 05/07/2013 5:32:39 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West)
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To: COBOL2Java

“I swear, as soon as I read that they were looking for a burial site, I thought “he’ll wind up in Vermont for sure!” “

The burial site being offered is in Connecticut. Don’t let that stop you though.


35 posted on 05/07/2013 5:37:24 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: mware

“The reverends final words to them, was, “when you are through, do not pollute the ground with his body.”

Just asking - is that really what God would say? Not agreeing or disagreeing - it makes me think: Who gave up on who first? That’s all.


36 posted on 05/07/2013 5:40:59 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: APatientMan

That Terrorist wanted to go to NYC to blow-up more people. He could offer his plot to the next New Yorker who doesn’t have one.


37 posted on 05/07/2013 5:41:28 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: APatientMan

The family should cremate him and be done with it.


38 posted on 05/07/2013 5:45:56 PM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: APatientMan

Let’s give it to this POS. It’s a good place to pee.


39 posted on 05/07/2013 5:47:38 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“He could offer his plot to the next New Yorker who doesn’t have one.”

If by “he” you mean the Vermonter - that would truly be a Christian thing to do. About perfect, and moving too.


40 posted on 05/07/2013 5:52:56 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: APatientMan
Other than uncle Ruslan, people are acting monstrously.

Bury the dead and move on.

This is not revealing the best qualities of us Freepers.

I'm as upset as anyone about this terrorist attack, but regardless of our religious upbringing we're all taught, more or less, the same thing about what to do.

You bury the dead in a respectful manner then move on.

41 posted on 05/07/2013 5:54:39 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: APatientMan
My wild-assed guess, which is all ANY of us has, is that God is not the least bit concerned with the rotting remains.

Those two vile creatures were representatives of several flavors of evil, the primary one being islam, and that being the case, feeding the body to some pigs would be fitting, if not for the insult it would be to the innocent pigs.

Their deaths were the shamefully lopsided result of a single battle - no, not even that, as the victims were all unarmed civilians - that saw four Americans killed, over 100 Americans severely wounded, and the 4th Amendment trashed in an entire city in return for one dead and one wounded enemy infiltrator/saboteur.

The sooner the former is flushed out to sea or dumped in an unmarked grave and forgotten, the sooner the latter is locked away for life or (preferably) hung and disposed of like its evil sibling, the sooner the war can resume against the enemy that sent yet more of the execrable filth that is islam to our shores in the person of those two from Chechnya.

The guy in VT is a fool, his self-absorbed 'piety' notwithstanding, and offering any kinda of dignity to the remains of that brutal barbarian mocks all the victims in Boston and, if the very kernel of truth could be known, probably the memory of his mother as well.

islam delenda est

42 posted on 05/07/2013 6:02:30 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: APatientMan
The whole thing is ridiculous. The man should be buried in an anonymous grave at an undisclosed location. And that should be the end of it. His grave would be neither desecrated nor memorialized and that is as it should be. He is nothing.
43 posted on 05/07/2013 6:09:31 PM PDT by pepperdog ( I still get a thrill up my leg when spell check doesn't recognize the name/word Obama!)
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To: tomkat

The war never stopped. It’s not waiting to resume. The question is are we fighting it because we lost our faith or did we lose our faith by way of fighting. If my presupposition that we’ve lost our faith is even accurate... Something gave out somewhere along the way, IMHO.

I almost intuitively go with your take on this. I just wonder if God doesn’t place a sanity check or two in our way every now and then to test us. Maybe the guy in VT has it right. Probably not, but maybe.


44 posted on 05/07/2013 6:15:42 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: APatientMan

When my older boys were in Boy Scouts they used to put flags on the veterans’ grave in this cemetery every Memorial Day.

Close enough for us to go piss on the grave.

(How nice of this guy to disregard the feelings of the families of all the other people buried there!!)


45 posted on 05/07/2013 6:17:37 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: KosmicKitty; All

It’s a war. We’ll win it, but not without God.

Is what this guy is doing something that He would disagree with? Maybe it doesn’t matter at all what we do with the terrorist’s body. In the grand scheme, probably not. Maybe it all adds up some though.

My wife is pulling me out onto the porch in the cool spring air for some us time. Ya’ll have a great night.


46 posted on 05/07/2013 6:29:12 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: georgia peach
Without a doubt, Muslims would find it a disgrace for Mr. Tsarnaev to be given Christian funerary observances, or be buried in consecrated ground. This would be taken as an insult and a provocation.

I do fear Tsarnaev's mothers would convery his body over to some jihad-enthusiast who would in turn build a mosque over his remains.

So it would be a good idea to prevent his grave being made into either a spittoon of vilification or a shrine of jihad. But a secret burial in an unmarked grave: is that even possible at this point? Meanwhile, prayers for those most in need of God's mercy.

47 posted on 05/07/2013 6:56:52 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Dies irae, Dies illa, / Solvet saeclum in favilla / Teste David et Sybilla.)
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To: APatientMan

He Who is Compassionate to the Cruel
Will Ultimately Become
Cruel to the Compassionate.

This guy has a bad case of misplaced compassion and exhibitionism.


48 posted on 05/08/2013 2:21:58 AM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks APatientMan.
The Hartford, Vt., resident is offering to donate the empty plot next to his mother to bury the Boston Marathon Bomber.
I'm glad I'm nowhere near VT and lack the means for a visit there -- an alibi can always be broken down, because they're not true.


49 posted on 05/08/2013 7:17:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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