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Pit bulls fatally maul jogger, remain on the loose; warning issued
LA Times ^ | May 9

Posted on 05/09/2013 8:30:01 PM PDT by Arthurio

An Antelope Valley woman jogging in Littlerock was mauled to death Thursday by a pack of pit bulls, officials said.

The dogs remained on the loose Thursday afternoon. L.A. County Sheriff's Department deputies were warning people to stay away from the area, department spokesman Steve Whitmore said.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Local News; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: california; littlerock; losangeles; pitbull

1 posted on 05/09/2013 8:30:01 PM PDT by Arthurio
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To: Arthurio

Dreadful. RIP.


2 posted on 05/09/2013 8:32:25 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

absolutely horrible. I hope the dogs are found and destroyed.


3 posted on 05/09/2013 8:37:39 PM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: Arthurio

Los Angeles is on lock down. Marines are taking to the streets, The Torrance police department just shot 78 bullets at a couple innocent Pekingese. Culver City PD just rammed their patrol cruiser into an ASPCA van. KABC-7 news has just learned of the wanted pit bulls’ manifesto on Facebark, taunting the Los Angeles humane society. Investigators in San Bernardino have reportedly found a dog collar matching the description of the wanted dogs in Big Bear.

Stay tuned to the KABC-7 Action News Channel for more details as they develop.


4 posted on 05/09/2013 8:37:44 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Demand Common Sense Nut Control.)
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To: Arthurio
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5 posted on 05/09/2013 8:39:53 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

But to carry for protection in L.A. County, OH HELL NO!!


6 posted on 05/09/2013 8:40:07 PM PDT by yadent
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To: Slings and Arrows

is there a point where jogging becomes RUNNING just wonderin


7 posted on 05/09/2013 8:43:50 PM PDT by bigheadfred ( barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: yadent

Law abiding citizens don’t need guns. They might end up shooting someone who intends to do them harm. We can’t have that.


8 posted on 05/09/2013 8:44:24 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Arthurio

The name of the woman was not immediately released, but ABC7 reported she was 63 years old.

Sheriff’s Lt. John Corina told the station that a witness saw four or five dogs attacking the woman this morning and honked to try and scare them away. Instead they tried to attack the witness car—specifically trying to puncture the car’s tires.

The first deputy on scene fired a shot at the dog from about 30 feet away, and the dog ran off into the desert.

Los Angeles County Supervisor Michael Antonovich ordered county personnel to continue air and ground searches for the pit bulls and offered a $25,000 reward for information leading to their capture. The money will not come from public funds, Antonovich spokesman Tony Bell said.

http://www.dailynews.com/antelopevalley/ci_23209368/jogger-mauled-death-by-pit-bulls-near-palmdale


9 posted on 05/09/2013 8:48:38 PM PDT by deks ("...the battle...liberty against the overreach of the federal government" Ken Cuccinelli)
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To: Arthurio

There’s always some who jump all over the cops when they shoot a dog, and not to excuse bad behavior, but if I were confronted by a viscous dog I would have no qualms whatsoever about putting a bullet through it’s brain. I like dogs, but dogs aren’t people and as we see here again, they can kill.


10 posted on 05/09/2013 8:49:46 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Arthurio
While at the link I noticed THIS headline.. "Man wanted for allegedly killing wife and kids may be heavily armed" LOL What is it with Pit Bulls and Kids these days? /s
11 posted on 05/09/2013 8:52:20 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: deks

...and missed. I’m shocked, shocked I tell you!


12 posted on 05/09/2013 8:53:04 PM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: Slings and Arrows

Well, at least you only tried to redirect the attention of this thread from the death of a human being into how stupid a person has to be to actually believe that a pit bull could attack a person (e.g., the pit bulls could NOT be pit bulls, they must be chihuahuas or parrots). Usually, pictures of children being licked by a pit bull are the distortion of the day - those pictures always make me think of family photos taken days right before the dog attacks and kills a family member.

” Each year from a third to 45% of the total U.S. pit bull population enters an animal shelter, a phenomenon never seen with any other dog breed. “ http://www.animalpeoplenews.org/anp/2011/11/19/editorial-the-shelter-killing-of-pit-bulls/
Yeah it’s probably just animal shelters misidentifying bears, parrots, cats etc. as pit bulls. Just a big conspiracy where humans frame pit bulls. Yup.


13 posted on 05/09/2013 8:58:12 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: Arthurio
I went to a friend's house after Sunday church, went in the back yard (didn't know the huge German Shepherd was out of the house), and the dog let out a loud growl, and I knew I was going to be bitten. I stopped in my tracks and didn't move. The husband was in the yard and realized the dog was charging me and he yelled. The dog had already taken his final leap, he heard the yell, and crunched down just above my right knee. As soon as the dog landed on the ground from that, he backed away due to the owner getting there.

That was a vicious dog. If someone knocked on the front door, the dog charged the closed door crashing against the door. They would put the dog in a big cage in their bedroom if a visitor was there.

My friends were very upset the dog bit me but my knee wasn't bad. I think the dog, after hearing the yell, didn't do the damage he could have done on my leg. I don't have big legs and he could have encircled my whole knee and ripped it off. I felt very lucky.

The next day, a florist was at my house with flowers and a note that said, “I am very sorry I bit you.” Later, when the wife called to find out how I was, I told her I had been to the doctor and it was really bad and the doctor said the only thing that would cure it would be to go to Acapulco with a handsome man. She started laughing and so did I. I never went to their house again until I called first for them to put up the dog.

14 posted on 05/09/2013 8:59:23 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Arthurio

But they are such nice dogs........./s/


15 posted on 05/09/2013 9:00:35 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Yup, and don’t worry, the police will be there in no time to help ya out too!!


16 posted on 05/09/2013 9:16:50 PM PDT by yadent
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To: Arthurio; Chet 99

Chet 99 ping...


17 posted on 05/09/2013 9:25:59 PM PDT by null and void (America needs to be led by warriors not by lawyers)
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To: bigbob

you can hate jerkwad cops who unnecessarily shoot a dog, just as much as you can hate a dog attacking you or a loved one. there is room to hate both. personally i loathe the cop more because people are generally responsible for bad dogs, it isn’t all their fault.


18 posted on 05/09/2013 9:48:01 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Marcella

Nice story. I have dated lots of women who own (some) pretty nasty dogs. Ever heard of the saying “must love dogs”? It applies to guys who want to get to 1st base even and I’ve had my bite stories. After one that got me to the hospital (she paid for the costs), I broke up with her.


19 posted on 05/09/2013 9:51:27 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: bigbob

Sorry but any resemblance between a Pit bull and my pointers is lost in hundreds of years of canine breeding programs.

Pit bulls are bred to bite and can exert thousands of pounds if pressure in their jaws......My pointers are bred to bring a bird to hand without ruffling a feather.....My pointers were bred to be a trusted member of the family even near the smallest of the clan.... but bulls around tots???? Might as well hand them a loaded and cocked pistol as leave them with a pit.......


20 posted on 05/09/2013 10:07:37 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (A Strong Man Armed who guards his home, lives in peace.)
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To: max americana

“I have dated lots of women who own (some) pretty nasty dogs.”

My little 5 lb. Yorkie loves everyone. I would not have a mean dog or one who wouldn’t be sweet.


21 posted on 05/09/2013 10:11:02 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: bigheadfred

You cannot out run a dog. Period. Head to the nearest tree and climb. Dog can’t do this.
Had a rather small mixed breed and when I drove out from the farm it could pace me at about 40MPH before it got tired and stopped. About 1/8 of a mile. It was just having doggy fun.
On foot no way I could win. Find something and get up off the ground as fast as possible. If it’s a pack do your best to run faster. Even getting on the top of a car gives you the advantage because they have no traction and slip off. Get off the ground.


22 posted on 05/09/2013 10:16:00 PM PDT by glyptol
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To: glyptol

When I said mixed breed no pit bull. Just a nice mutt.


23 posted on 05/09/2013 10:29:15 PM PDT by glyptol
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To: Forty-Niner

“Pit bulls are bred to bite and can exert thousands of pounds if pressure in their jaws.....”

http://dogfacts.wordpress.com/2008/02/03/national-geographics-dr-brady-barrs-bite-pressure-tests/

“Domestic dogs: 320 LBS of pressure on avg. A German Shepherd Dog, American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT), and Rottweiler were tested using a bite sleeve equipped with a specialized computer instrument. The APBT had the least amount of pressure of the 3 dogs tested.”

You must have been thinking of Nanzi Pelousy.

My American bulldog was trained to fight bulls in England, as well as serve as a guard dog, and some were used to herd livestock. The two different varieties—`Scott’ and `Johnson’ have different characteristics: my Scott is lean and agile, probably close to what he was in Albion, about the times the Romans required that if they were restrained by a `stout rope or chain.’
But the damned bull lobby ... So they started breeding them with pugs and turned them into the docile sluggards we see today.
In the meantime Americans continued to use them for herding livestock and for protection from varmints—animal and human.
Dogs are territorial. Feral dogs have reverted to wolves, have broken their ancient compact with us and should, as a general rule, be shot on sight.
One reason there are so many `pitbull’ bites (the American pitbull terrier?) is that—there are so many of them, just as Rottweilers, Dobermans, etc. have ebbed and waned in popularity over the years. Another big reason, the owners who have no business owning a dog of any breed. The breed with the largest, overwhelming population in animal shelters? Bulldogs.
A `bullydog’ requires a strong—and kind—owner. I could never own a `yapster’ hairball after coming to know this breed. All my neighbors understand my tall picket fence, reinforced with 18 gauge wire, and why my three gates are marked “Dogs on Premises” and are locked.
My wife is disabled and home alone a lot when I’m working. Anyone asking another to “Hold muh beer so I kin climb this fence ... “ is a trespasser and will be re-climbing the fence a lot faster.

But all that’s neither here nor there, those stupid facts, since we all know about ‘evil pitbulls’, the conventional wisdom, that their jaw strength is actually measured in gigabites, et cetera and so on. Bed time.


24 posted on 05/09/2013 11:17:51 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Arthurio

I sometimes watch “Pitbulls and Parolees” - the original Villalobos center - I remember them saying Antelope Valley was a disaster area as far as maltreated pits and dogfights went. Just a very bad place to be a dog.


25 posted on 05/09/2013 11:19:05 PM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: tumblindice

the Romans required that if they were restrained by a `stout rope or chain.’
clarification:
the Romans required that if they were walked on the street or in public that they were restrained ...
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


26 posted on 05/09/2013 11:23:01 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: tumblindice

>> The APBT had the least amount of pressure of the 3 dogs tested.

So does that make the GSD more dangerous? No. Intelligence, obedience, and loyalty make the difference.


27 posted on 05/09/2013 11:37:25 PM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: tumblindice

One reason there are so many `pitbull’ bites (the American pitbull terrier?) is that—there are so many of them
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No. The stats show that pit bulls are disproportionately represented by mauling/maiming/killing etc. compared with their presence in the population.
In the 8-year period from 2005 to 2012, pit bulls killed 151 Americans and accounted for 60% of the total recorded deaths (251).


28 posted on 05/09/2013 11:46:18 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: bigbob

A viscous dog. Is that anything like a jellyfish?


29 posted on 05/10/2013 12:30:31 AM PDT by ShasheMac
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To: null and void

Poor Chet..
he was right


30 posted on 05/10/2013 3:24:15 AM PDT by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: Forty-Niner
but bulls around tots???? Might as well hand them a loaded and cocked pistol as leave them with a pit.......

Amen brother.
I wouldn't restrict that to pit bulls.
About the only large dogs I'd trust around a child, and NOT unsupervised, are Labs, Border Collies, some Hounds.

31 posted on 05/10/2013 3:33:56 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: patriot08

Indeed he was.


32 posted on 05/10/2013 3:35:02 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Marcella
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Shoot the dog ... jail the owner ...

Questions ?


I once dated a beautiful and (presumably) very-intelligent electrical engineer, who also claimed to be a Christian.

She owned a pit-bull.

Her walks and travels with this potential killer included approaching small children (who were strangers) and telling them that "Chevy" was a nice puppy.

Delusional on steroids.

I ended the relationship a week or so later.

I never want to have to face a little girl and "apologize" for my dog's rippin-out her eyeballs or fingers.



Civilized people DO NOT own pit bulls ... only Obama's druggie friends from the hood, or folks with "quasi-severe" mental disorders.

Period.



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33 posted on 05/10/2013 4:06:31 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Piss upon Obama, and his False Prophet Mohammed)
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To: yadent

Carry a 25-lb bag of Milk-Bones, throw ‘em at the dogs and run for a scalable tree. The LEOs will be there within the hour, so don’t worry about it.


34 posted on 05/10/2013 4:22:56 AM PDT by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s are the Muskets of the 21st Century. Free men need not ask permission.)
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To: Arthurio

If she didn’t live in the worker’s paradise of Kalifornia she could have employed the Perry Defense.


35 posted on 05/10/2013 5:06:29 AM PDT by x1stcav (Illegals? Jihadis? Round 'em up and move 'em out. Rawhide!)
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To: Arthurio

Its not the dogs, its irresponsible owners. No one should ever let their dogs roam outside without being supervised.

Pit Bulls can be sweet and loving dogs but they do need supervision. Some people simply can’t be trusted to be responsible dog owners.


36 posted on 05/10/2013 6:40:27 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: tumblindice
http://dogfacts.wordpress.com/2008/02/03/national-geographics-dr-brady-barrs-bite-pressure-tests/

“Domestic dogs: 320 LBS of pressure on avg. A German Shepherd Dog, American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT), and Rottweiler were tested using a bite sleeve equipped with a specialized computer instrument. The APBT had the least amount of pressure of the 3 dogs tested.”

Too much is made of "experts" measuring animal bites. First, they can't even get the fundamental facts of physics right. Pounds is a measure of force. Pressure is a measure of force over an area such as pounds per square inch. So your 320 pounds of pressure is gibberish. The Doctor who ran the experiments in the referenced website couldn't keep to consistent units and frequently mixed force with pressure. It pains me to frequently hear this confusion by the experts on the so called science shows.

The measure of pressure in his experiments is really a measure of the force per area on the bite sleeve. An example of how misleading this can be imagine a pit bull (which have very wide jaws) measures at 100 psi while a Doberman with a narrow jaw measures at 300 psi. Well the pit's jaw may be clamping down on three times the area of that of the Doberman. So they both have the same bite force! The other misleading thing about measuring bite sleeve forces is the pressure the meter reads against the resisting arm is distributed over entire bite area. Whereas, the actual pressure a victim feels is the force applied over the small area of the tips of the teeth which is a far greater pressure.

37 posted on 05/10/2013 12:14:33 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: tumblindice

Sorry tumblindice...

My general reference wasn’t meant to include APBT which are few and far between in this neck of the woods.....the single one I’ve known lived across the street and his owner used him for Boar hunting with the appropriate body armor against tusk slashes.....A nice puppy but once the dog reached full size it was no longer allowed anywhere but the back yard or it’s dog run....”you just never know...” was my neighbor’s comment.....

Stafford Pit Bull Terriers are predominate in this neck of the woods.....just go to any SPCA or city Animal shelter and you’ll see that they predominate the breeds there by a large %......never saw one that wasn’t vicious if left to it’s own devices.....


38 posted on 05/10/2013 1:32:12 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (A Strong Man Armed who guards his home, lives in peace.)
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