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Obamacare: Taxpayers Must Report Personal Health ID Info to IRS
Americans For Tax Reform ^ | 05/10/2013 | John Kartch

Posted on 05/12/2013 2:03:13 PM PDT by Kolath

When Obamacare’s individual mandate takes effect in 2014, all Americans who file income tax returns must complete an additional IRS tax form.

The new form will require disclosure of a taxpayer’s personal identifying health information in order to determine compliance with the Affordable Care Act’s individual mandate.

As confirmed by IRS testimony to the tax-writing House Committee on Ways and Means, “taxpayers will file their tax returns reporting their health insurance coverage, and/or making a payment”.

So why will the Obama IRS require your personal identifying health information?

Read more: http://atr.org/obamacare-taxpayers-must-report-personal-health-a7611#ixzz2T7AB826P Follow us: @taxreformer on Twitter

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; biggovernment; healthid; insurancemandate; irs; loislerner; nannystate; obamacare

1 posted on 05/12/2013 2:03:13 PM PDT by Kolath
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To: Kolath

And what if one refuses?


2 posted on 05/12/2013 2:04:12 PM PDT by siamesecats (God closes one door, and opens another, to protect us.)
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To: Kolath

The witch hunt begins.


3 posted on 05/12/2013 2:05:12 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you think ObamaCare is a train wreck, wait until you see the amnesty bill.)
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To: Kolath

4 posted on 05/12/2013 2:05:20 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: siamesecats

“And what if one refuses?”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermax_prison


5 posted on 05/12/2013 2:07:06 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: siamesecats

Club Gitmo?


6 posted on 05/12/2013 2:08:59 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Kolath

F U B O !!

I have drawn my line in the sand!


7 posted on 05/12/2013 2:17:31 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Kolath
And when you are 70...you will go to a local government MD where you will drink the koolaid.

It will not be necessary to go the next year...

8 posted on 05/12/2013 2:19:48 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: unixfox
I have drawn my line in the sand!

Good luck! Didn't they hire an additional 15,000 attorneys as Obamacare/IRS agents to take care of "problems" like you?

9 posted on 05/12/2013 2:20:21 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Kolath

Totalitariancare - TREASON...pre-medititated entrapment/enslavement, “representative” complicit, USSC complicit.


10 posted on 05/12/2013 2:22:48 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Sacajaweau

One of the “under-reported” features of Obamacare is the huge positive impact the Death Panels will have on the finances of Soc Sec and Medicare.

Worried about Grandma getting killed off? How ‘bout if we forgive your student loans as compensation....


11 posted on 05/12/2013 2:23:47 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Kolath

So, will lying about your health now have the same penalties as cheating on your taxes?


12 posted on 05/12/2013 2:25:00 PM PDT by abishai
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To: Kolath

Question to the taxpayers:
Why don’t they just shoot us and be done with it?


13 posted on 05/12/2013 2:25:47 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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14 posted on 05/12/2013 2:27:13 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: siamesecats

Same thing that happens when one resists big brother’s edicts: The club/gun comes out.

After all, the government can’t be seen as the big bag of hot air it is without the gun.


15 posted on 05/12/2013 2:28:20 PM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: Kolath

I think for my primary health insurance provider I will list “Holy Spirit United Health Lines”

and for my primary physician I will list “Jesus Christ”

If they ask for my new health care Id, I’ll just tell them it hasn’t been issued yet. I’m looking forward to getting that at the 1st annual membership banquet.

I promise I’ll send a post card.


16 posted on 05/12/2013 2:38:03 PM PDT by Safrguns (PM me if you like to play Minecraft!)
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To: Kolath

I hope I transcribe the numbers correctly when I report it.


17 posted on 05/12/2013 2:45:55 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Kolath
all Americans who file income tax returns

Just a couple loop holes there!

18 posted on 05/12/2013 3:13:49 PM PDT by Mark (Obama is more confused than a hungry baby in a topless bar)
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To: siamesecats

I’m planning on finding out.


19 posted on 05/12/2013 3:53:56 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Kolath

I ain’t saying nuthin’.
I ain’t telling nuthin’.
I ain’t writing nuthin’.
I ain’t doing no tax nuthin’ by computer, so’s best have somebody know how to read handwritin’.
I ain’t sending nuthin’ ‘dat cain’t be no more than what the stamp is supposed to cover.
I don’t pay for health stuff, I already paid. How’s ya say?

I’m a disabled military Viet vet. I paid for my health stuff already, in a way a lot of young men and women, d’em dat’s got a backbone, are paying today, thank you very much.


20 posted on 05/12/2013 4:16:53 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Kolath

How about... No.


21 posted on 05/12/2013 4:18:44 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Kolath
N O
22 posted on 05/12/2013 4:19:53 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: Kolath
Does any country with universal health care have their internal/inland revenue service receive such personal medical information? And how come the Dem-totalitarians only voted in universal health *insurance* instead of universal health *care*?


23 posted on 05/12/2013 4:44:12 PM PDT by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men.)
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To: siamesecats

I wonder if I could get one of those 15,000 new agents to stop by and explain it to me.


24 posted on 05/12/2013 5:09:29 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Kolath

As we all have witnesses; the IRS needs to go away. What happened to those ideas of flat tax.....and getting rid of the IRS completely?


25 posted on 05/12/2013 6:26:55 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: Kolath; SheLion; Eric Blair 2084; -YYZ-; 31R1O; 383rr; AFreeBird; AGreatPer; Alamo-Girl; Alia; ...

Nanny State PING!

26 posted on 05/12/2013 7:03:56 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drag Me From Hell!)
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To: 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; ...

PING!

27 posted on 05/12/2013 7:04:32 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drag Me From Hell!)
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To: nascarnation
I wrote this "fictional" dialogue a couple of years ago (note particularly the part at the bottom about the 'death benefit"):

COUNSELOR (Speaking to the daughter of a man who told the government they could "Kiss his ass" if they think he is going to mandatory elder counseling): "Hi Jan, how are you? I heard your father is resisting counseling. It must be difficult, I know. There just seems to be so much of that lately. I know I am only 40 years old, but I don't understand why people like your father are so opposed to this.

I went with my mother to her counseling session, and while she was angry because she was supposed to have another five years before she had to go but they moved the age down again, she went anyway. I thought she was really rude to the counseling agent, who was just a young woman only doing her job. Hm.

Someone told me they are only hiring young women as counselors now, because the men who were doing it just got angry too easily and shouted at people to just "sign the damned papers". Hm. I tried to tell my mom why they have to do this, but she said they do it just to get rid of old people to save money.

The counseling agent gave my mom a copy of the book "Death is Joy". I read it, and it makes a lot of sense to me. Of course, when I was going to school, we didn't have to read it, but now they have required classes they take every year beginning in first grade.

Suzie is in third grade and is taking the course this year that deals with the chapter on keeping birth rates down, and Tommy is in his senior year where they cover the financial aspects of care for the elderly. He was so excited, he said that since they have implemented this national care program, the number of elderly people has dropped dramatically, so they can spend more money on programs such as monthly equality checks for the economically disadvantaged and reparations for the descendants of slaves. I think it is wonderful.

He asked me why so many elderly people are so selfish and refuse to accept counseling...I didn't really have an answer for him. Hm. Now, don't be defensive, I am not criticizing your parents.

I am just saying, it is a problem.

They had an hour-long program on PBS about this the other night, and they were saying how the people who are being selfish about this and refusing to take advantage of early exit programs that pay cash to their children are being so self-centered because they grew up in a time where everyone was self-centered and were interested only in money. You know, they showed films from the days of the capitalists where there were people who had what they called 'gas-guzzlers", and they used to make so much more money than they needed to live comfortably, so many people were going without health care because they were taking all the money..."

Then, just wait until they pass legislation for a "Death Benefit" that will be paid to the families of elderly people. That will be the icing on the cake. It will be presented as a compassionate gesture to help the families with their grief, and will put at ease those people slated for "end of life" counseling. I can see the conversation on this as well:

COUNSELOR: Thank you for coming in today, sir. Now, let's see...you have high blood pressure, rheumatoid arthritis but more importantly, positive genetic tags for vascular/heart disease, Alzheimer's, matricular degeneration and three types of cancer, prostate, esophageal and colon. Prostate and colon are very high. We see one of these two expressing itself in the next three years.

ME: Er...really?

COUNSELOR: Yes. This is all very scientifically based, and the results are incontrovertible. There is no mistake.

ME: Ahhh...could I speak to a doctor about this?

COUNSELOR: I am afraid not, sir. The rules are physicians are for direct care only, and nothing else. Federal Statue HCR23.1771-b mandates that I communicate this information to you, and inform you of the various options.

ME: But you don't know anything about medicine! You are a clerk, nothing more! How can I discuss this issue with you?

COUNSELOR: Sir, I have taken all the courses coming through High School, and attended the Life Counseling University courses offered by the government. I graduated in the top half of my class. I do understand the issues here.

ME: But...but...

COUNSELOR: Look, sir. You are getting old, and are soon going to be a burden on society. You don't have cancer right now, and can still think and get around, but for how long? You need to think about your children and their children. We offer a special financial compensation package that will help them bear the grief of your passing, to be paid out upon your death. With your approval, we emailed them an official forms packet before this meeting.

ME: I approved that?

COUNSELOR: Well, yes sir. The electronic copy is right here with you esignature (TURNS SCREEN TO FACE ME).

ME: I never signed that!

COUNSELOR: Sir, didn't you read the codocil that was automatically added at the bottom of your government supplied Will and Last Testament session that we finished up your first End of Life session you had with us last year? You did click the button that said "I approve all the changes" and you did use your voice authentication to say "I do approve".

ME: What! What is going on here? I...

COUNSELOR: Your two sons and your daughter who came in with you today have been in communication with our department on this. (Smiles) I think it is great that the government approves time-off pay for employees to attend these End of Life meetings for their parents. I'll call them in...

ME: Hey! I am not finished discus...

(DOOR OPENS, CHILDREN ENTER)

SON 1: Dad, I am so glad you signed up for the Early Exit Death Benefit. I was really behind on my tax payments for last year, and that will put me over the top...

ME: You...what?

SON 2: Yeah, dad. Billy is graduating from high school, and we want to send him to a quality college, but we could never afford it. But now we might...thanks to you.

Daughter: Oh, Daddy (tears in her eyes) I know none of us live forever, and I will miss you so much, but this money will allow me to pay th license fees to the government so I can open my dream business! Without you...

ME: HEY! WTF is going on here? I am not "ready to die", I feel pretty good, I could live for another twenty years! I didn't sign that damned thing, they just threw all this stuff in front of me! This is effing stupid! (TURNS TO COUNSELOR) Look, I don't know what kind of crap you set in motion, but undo it. I didn't sign up for this.

COUNSELOR: (PRIGGISH, TIGHT LIPPED LOOK ON HIS FACE) Sir...you have already been scheduled for next year, and your family has been paid that benefit in advance as the law allows. We cannot undo it. See the text that you signed (TURNS SCREEN) states explicitly that this if final and cannot be remanded...

ME: (SMASHES SREEN WITH HAND) LOOK! I DON'T GIVE A RAT'S ASS IF YOU HAVE TO BURROW THROUGH THE WIRES BACK TO THE CENTRAL COMPUTER SYSTEM YOURSELF, USING YOUR SLIMEY PENCIL NECK AS A LEG TO DO IT SO YOU CAN UNDO THIS ROYAL F*CKUP ON YOUR PART...

COUNSELOR: (HAND CUPPED OVER SPEAKER, EYES ON ME, WHISPERING) We have a 22-22 in here...get in here right away...

DAUGHTER: (WAILS) How could you be so selfish?

SON 1: Great. I might as well go down to the Tax Police right now to get fitted for the volunteer industry uniform...

COUNSELOR: How am I going to tell Billy he can't go to the Barack Obama University? How?

DOOR OPENS, BURLY UNION GUYS IN BLACK COVERALLS RUN UP TO ME AND TASE ME. ALL GOES BLACK

28 posted on 05/12/2013 8:06:40 PM PDT by rlmorel ("We'll drink to good health for them that have it coming." Boss Spearman in Open Range)
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To: Kolath
Obamacare: Taxpayers Must Report Personal Health ID Info to IRS

No.

29 posted on 05/12/2013 8:27:05 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


30 posted on 05/12/2013 9:13:24 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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