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How Plant a Garden on Mars With a Robot
universetoday.com ^ | May 14, 2013 | Nancy Atkinson on

Posted on 05/14/2013 6:32:36 PM PDT by BenLurkin

Mars in particular is a key target for future human planetary adventures even though on the face of it, it seems so hostile to human life. In fact Mars actually has the most clement environment of any planet in the Solar System outside of Earth and is known to have all of the resources necessary in some accessible form, to sustain life on the surface. So how might we survive on Mars? The crucial things for humans on Mars are the availability of oxygen, shelter, food and water, and not just endless consumables delivered to the planet from Earth. For humans to live long-term on Mars, they will need a self-sustaining habitat to be able to thrive in for generations.

In short, they’ll need a garden. And maybe a robot, too.

Any garden on Mars would need protection in the form of a greenhouse or geodesic dome that could keep the vegetables, fruits, grains and flowers sheltered from the extreme UV radiation that floods the Martian surface, whilst still allowing enough sunlight through to allow them to grow. This dome would also have to be strong enough to provide support and protection against potentially devastating Martian dust storms.

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TOPICS: Gardening; Science
KEYWORDS: garden; gardening; mars; robot
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1 posted on 05/14/2013 6:32:36 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin; GraceG; Zionist Conspirator

Why have I seen these creatures in my Dreams?!


2 posted on 05/14/2013 6:37:21 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: BenLurkin

I think we should investigate colonizing Altair IV. The climate seems nice and there is a really hot chick living there.


3 posted on 05/14/2013 6:38:29 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: BenLurkin

Mars isnt that different from parts of the southwest.

I bet if you sprinkled out the right mix of weeds, mesquite, and dandylion seed, those things would take hold and wouldn’t need any dome. Inside of a few years, the whole damned place would green up and create an atmosphere. Import a bunch of cattle and get them eating grass and farting,,,
Burn some mesquite to smoke some briskets, (making even more CO2,,
ANd before you know it, we could just expand Texas.


4 posted on 05/14/2013 6:40:43 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: BenLurkin
sheltered from the extreme UV radiation that floods the Martian surface, whilst still allowing enough sunlight through to allow them to grow. This dome would also have to be strong enough to provide support and protection against potentially devastating Martian dust storms.

I think that will have to be made of unobtainum. We can't yet do 2mm single molecule diamond in the acre size.

/johnny

5 posted on 05/14/2013 6:41:24 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: yarddog

pics!


6 posted on 05/14/2013 6:42:56 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: BenLurkin

I think the real question is if Mars is even viable to live on, as it’s smaller than earth and cannot hold the same level of atmosphere. The most we might ever really be able to do with it is use it as a place for robots to build things.

I’ve read that there isn’t enough material in the asteroid belt to significantly increase Mar’s mass enough to be able to hold a thicker atmosphere.


7 posted on 05/14/2013 6:43:19 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jonty30

IMO the only way to live anywhere in space is to build airtight underground caverns. Heinlein probably had it right in “The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.”


8 posted on 05/14/2013 6:45:07 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: DesertRhino
In August, if I owned Mars and Texas, I'd rent out Texas and live on Mars.

/johnny

9 posted on 05/14/2013 6:45:54 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: BenLurkin

And we really should build a Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator pretty soon after we get there, just in case Obama kiddies start wanting to move up there and screw it up. The one Marvin the Martian had in that Bugs Bunny Cartoon.


10 posted on 05/14/2013 6:47:22 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Good subreference,,,


11 posted on 05/14/2013 6:48:37 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: BenLurkin

But domes are an environmentalist wacko favorite. Bunkers are for right wing extremists and frackers.


12 posted on 05/14/2013 6:48:43 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: BenLurkin

13 posted on 05/14/2013 6:51:25 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: DesertRhino

You can produce as much atmosphere as you want, but if the planet is too small to hold it, the atmosphere will just leak out into space.


14 posted on 05/14/2013 6:51:32 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: BenLurkin

I am not sure how to post pics except those I already have in my photobucket folder.

Her name was Altaira. Her Father named her for the planet. About the only company she had was Robby the Robot, that is until the flying saucer with a bunch of future well known actors arrived.


15 posted on 05/14/2013 6:54:12 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: JRandomFreeper; DesertRhino

I was just out surveying my dandelion crop. I sprayed them with the 2-4-D on Sunday and they appear to have doubled in size in just two days. Thank goodness I didn’t give any to the morning glory.


16 posted on 05/14/2013 6:55:21 PM PDT by bigheadfred ( barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: BenLurkin

Does the dirt on Mars contain the nutrients necessary for plant life to grow there? If not, can fertilizer be made from anything on Mars?


17 posted on 05/14/2013 6:55:56 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Jonty30
the atmosphere will just leak out into space.

Over what amount of time? 2 weeks wouldn't be good, but 10K years... that I could live with (I will be sincerly dead by then).

Most models I've seen have had solar wind stripping atmosphere from Mars because it doesn't have a real magnetic field like a grown up planet.

/johnny

18 posted on 05/14/2013 6:56:33 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: BenLurkin

I think an inflatable dome over a crater is a good place to start.


19 posted on 05/14/2013 6:58:24 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Jonty30

Probably the easiest planet to live on aside from earth. Obviously we would be mostly underground. There is at least some atmosphere which will help. Plus the rovers are finding ambient surface radiation much lower than expected.


20 posted on 05/14/2013 7:01:28 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

It’s not so much that it leaks, as Earth leaks as well, but the rate of leaking. It’s unlikely that we could produce enough atmosphere to compensate to the point where we could make it viable.


21 posted on 05/14/2013 7:04:58 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: BenLurkin

Plant pine trees, various grasses, create mossy environments smell barley andbhops for beer. that ought to create a ton of oxygen and keep the ugly people happy.


22 posted on 05/14/2013 7:09:25 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: yarddog
Is this her?


23 posted on 05/14/2013 7:11:43 PM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: JRandomFreeper

LOL

You got the right idea there...


24 posted on 05/14/2013 7:12:06 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Jonty30

Cellophane


25 posted on 05/14/2013 7:12:53 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

Why not? :)


26 posted on 05/14/2013 7:13:26 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Former Fetus

Yes, thank you, thank you very much.


27 posted on 05/14/2013 7:13:54 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Can’t we just insert perils in the center and let them spin the planet a bit faster to create a stronger magnetic files and pull?


28 posted on 05/14/2013 7:14:39 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Jonty30

Titan is smaller than Mars and has the densist atmosphere outside of the gas giants.


29 posted on 05/14/2013 7:14:50 PM PDT by aft_lizard
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To: jeffc
It has the elements. Plants don't generally take up elements directly. Usually, beneficial micro-organisms deal with the rotting wood, limestone, granite, whatever before the plants can eat.

So little bugs should be the first things seeded. Unless we prove that Mars already has an infection.

/johnny

30 posted on 05/14/2013 7:14:56 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Jonty30; JRandomFreeper; cripplecreek

all we need to do is genetically modify some things and be good to go


31 posted on 05/14/2013 7:15:04 PM PDT by bigheadfred ( barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: Jonty30

You have to have a protecting lay that reflects most of the UV rays. Size has little to do with it.


32 posted on 05/14/2013 7:16:05 PM PDT by aft_lizard
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To: BenLurkin

Actually the idea of us colonizing any planet in any number at all is about as remote as developing warp drive.


33 posted on 05/14/2013 7:16:21 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: Vendome

The above should read “can’t we insert gerbils in the center of Mars and let them spin the planet faster...”

Stoopit Smart Phone...


34 posted on 05/14/2013 7:16:52 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Jonty30
The models I've seen have had atmosphere lifetimes of 10s of millions of years. I don't know if it was Marinova's stuff that I was reading that in... but she's pretty hip on Mars. She got her PhD on the possibility of a large impactor on Mars.

/johnny

35 posted on 05/14/2013 7:18:12 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: bigheadfred

I think they need “Genesis.” Launch it and in less than a week there will be a garden of eden and everything that can support life.

Of course the next week it implodes. But hey, that’s what happens when you contract out to Solyndra.


36 posted on 05/14/2013 7:18:32 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: Vendome
and keep the ugly people happy.

I'm ugly.

Beer me.

/johnny

37 posted on 05/14/2013 7:19:09 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: yarddog

The earth use to be flat and the center of the universe .

We fixed that.

We can do this people ...

Use to to think communicators would be kewel and now we all have one...


38 posted on 05/14/2013 7:19:22 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: yarddog
One more.


39 posted on 05/14/2013 7:20:01 PM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (The Old White Flag Republicans can go straight to He// and take their pal Obama with them!)
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To: aft_lizard

There is a correlation between the size of a planet and its ability hold an atmosphere, even if it’s an imperfect correlation.

Here’s an article as to why Titan has an atmosphere.

http://www.astrobio.net/index.php?option=com_retrospection&task=detail&id=1755


40 posted on 05/14/2013 7:22:12 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: bigheadfred
NASA actually has an office to keep us from infecting other planets with life from Earf. They have concerns that some of the early probes probably still have viable bacteria spores on them.

Nothing modifies genetics like the big hammer of "you suck for this environment, die now". Throw enough at it, and something will stick eventually.

/johnny

41 posted on 05/14/2013 7:22:45 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Vendome
I wasn't going to ask when it was perils. I dang sure ain't gonna ask about the gerbils.

What you do on your planet needs to stay on your planet.

/johnny

42 posted on 05/14/2013 7:24:10 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: BenLurkin
"How Plant a Garden on Mars "

Heck with just that, build a FARM!

Can you imagine just how tender the steaks would be from cows raised in Mars low gravity?

43 posted on 05/14/2013 7:24:16 PM PDT by Dacus943
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To: Vendome

Oh, it is fun to think about and suppose about.

I remember around 1952 a bunch of boys around 10 years old were standing around a barrel burning a tar like substance. I was only 5 and thought my 10 year old brother was next to God.

After talking about it for maybe 10 minutes, my Brother pronounced the verdict. Man would never walk on the Moon. That was it, that settled it for all time.

About five minutes later I was playing with the burning tar and picked up a bit with a stick. I dropped a quarter size bit on my forearm and still have the scar today.


44 posted on 05/14/2013 7:25:51 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

Oh yes. Can you imagine being cooped up in a flying saucer for a year or so and after landing, having her greet you.

Never been kissed tho she picked it up pretty well.


45 posted on 05/14/2013 7:29:42 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

well i was hoping at some point i could grow an impervious exoskeleton and actually use my ass to inhale rather than just exhale


46 posted on 05/14/2013 7:46:26 PM PDT by bigheadfred ( barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: JRandomFreeper

;-)


47 posted on 05/14/2013 7:50:11 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Ain’t no ugly Freepers ...


48 posted on 05/14/2013 7:51:30 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

beer me


49 posted on 05/14/2013 7:56:45 PM PDT by bigheadfred ( barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: Vendome
I made my most recent grand-daughter cry until this last month, every time she saw me. That's when she turned 2, and figured out I wasn't going to get any nicer looking.

I once cut a handsome figure of a young man, and then they made me an NCO.

At least they didn't make me an officer and I got to keep my pre-frontal lobes.

/johnny

50 posted on 05/14/2013 8:06:39 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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