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Have Scientists Discovered a Way of Peering Into the Future?
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Posted on 05/15/2013 2:30:31 PM PDT by djf

Deep in the basement of a dusty old library in Edinburgh lies a small black box that churns out random numbers. At first glance the box looks profoundly dull, but it is, in fact, the ‘eye' of a machine that appears capable of peering into the future.

The machine apparently sensed the September 11th attacks on the World Trade Center four hours before they happened, and appeared to forewarn of the Asian Tsunami.

"It's Earth shattering stuff," says Dr Roger Nelson, Emeritus researcher at Princeton University in the USA. "But unfortunately we don't have a box for predicting the future that we can sell to the CIA. We're very early on in the process of trying to figure out what's going on here. At the moment we're stabbing in the dark."

Dr Nelson's Global Consciousness Project - originally hosted by Princeton University - is one of the most extraordinary experiments of all time. It aims to ‘sense' whether all of humanity shares a single unconscious mind that we all tap into without realizing it. Some might refer to it as the mind of God. But the machine has also thrown up another tantalizing possibility: that scientists may have unwittingly discovered a way of predicting the future.

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This is an absolutely fascinating article!!!
1 posted on 05/15/2013 2:30:31 PM PDT by djf
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... that scientists may have unwittingly discovered a way of predicting the future.

So it's telling them that in the future they will find a way to predict the future?

2 posted on 05/15/2013 2:34:18 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: djf

Will it tell us the day Emperor Zero goes to prison ?


3 posted on 05/15/2013 2:36:23 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: djf

Why don’t these scientists predict power ball numbers?


5 posted on 05/15/2013 2:36:41 PM PDT by Rebelbase (1929-1950's, 20+years for full recovery. How long this time?)
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To: djf

Sorry, only God and the prophets to whom He reveals his future are privy to what is about to happen. While the future certainly has a fixed outcome, there is no mechanism available to man to view it.


6 posted on 05/15/2013 2:36:49 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: djf

Let me guess, we’ll all be dead and until then pay taxes.


7 posted on 05/15/2013 2:37:19 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: djf

Oh, and the Cubs will still be waiting to win the World Series.


8 posted on 05/15/2013 2:37:58 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Will it tell us the day Emperor Zero goes to prison ?

No. But it did see Mai Tais. pineapples, and stacks o gold.

9 posted on 05/15/2013 2:38:53 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: djf
The only thing this brought to my mind was the movie Wanted with Angelina Jolie, where a textile loom "prints out" a code of who needs to be killed to "protect" the future.
10 posted on 05/15/2013 2:39:25 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: djf

Seems to violate causality to me. Interesting nonetheless.


12 posted on 05/15/2013 2:40:00 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: djf

bfl


13 posted on 05/15/2013 2:40:06 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama's Chechens are coming home...to roost.)
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To: djf

No


14 posted on 05/15/2013 2:40:26 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: djf

Short answer: No.


15 posted on 05/15/2013 2:42:24 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: Dutchboy88

Interesting text and references about astrology here:

Christianity and astrology

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_astrology


16 posted on 05/15/2013 2:44:35 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: djf
Is it like the Nostradamus prophesies or the Bible Code, it seems terribly intriguing except you don't know what any of it *means*, until after the actual event.

17 posted on 05/15/2013 2:45:23 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: djf

>>This is an absolutely fascinating article!!! <<

Or it will be... ;)


18 posted on 05/15/2013 2:46:12 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (To attempt to have intercourse with a hornet's nest is a very bad idea)
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To: Rebelbase

Lol!

I hear ya!

But if they did, everybody would know the number, and the payout would be like 12 cents!


19 posted on 05/15/2013 2:46:16 PM PDT by djf (Rich widows: My Bitcoin address is... 1ETDmR4GDjwmc9rUEQnfB1gAnk6WLmd3n6)
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To: djf

Person of Intrest?


20 posted on 05/15/2013 2:48:34 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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Big deal

I had a Magic Eightball that did the same thing..

And for far less $$$$$$$$$


21 posted on 05/15/2013 2:49:23 PM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: BitWielder1

Somebody should have warned the guy dribbling the soccer ball to south America.


22 posted on 05/15/2013 2:51:24 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: stylecouncilor

...wierd physics ping....

You could sense it coming, couldn’t you?


23 posted on 05/15/2013 2:51:44 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: djf

Bflr


24 posted on 05/15/2013 2:56:33 PM PDT by colinhester
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To: djf

25 posted on 05/15/2013 2:56:59 PM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: djf
the eye of a machine


26 posted on 05/15/2013 2:57:53 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: djf
No no no NOOOO...


27 posted on 05/15/2013 3:00:40 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: djf

I thought it was pretty neat too. I would have liked to have see these graphs that spike before and after and if they ever get slopes/spikes when there is no obvious global event. Also how long there is a spike on their random number generators.

Fregeards


28 posted on 05/15/2013 3:01:14 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Dutchboy88

This really isn’t about predicting anything specific about the future. The thesis is that human consciousness, alone, or in aggregate, can actually change probabilities, and they seem to have good data to back that up.

So, his machine can “sense” when those probabilities are being strongly affected by our consciousnesses, and that seems to be an indicator that a big event is happening or about to happening. However, there’s no way his machine can tell him what that event is, so he can’t actually see the future.


29 posted on 05/15/2013 3:04:14 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Dutchboy88
Sorry, only God and the prophets to whom He reveals his future are privy to what is about to happen. While the future certainly has a fixed outcome, there is no mechanism available to man to view it.

There is the truth of it - It seems science is returning to it's roots.

30 posted on 05/15/2013 3:05:28 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: BitWielder1

It’s useless to try to use this to predict anything. However, if their observations are correct, there are interesting ramifications for understanding things like human intuition. Or beating Las Vegas slot machines :)


31 posted on 05/15/2013 3:06:04 PM PDT by Boogieman
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Do they have a web site that displays a realtime graph or anything? I need to know when to start freaking out...


32 posted on 05/15/2013 3:07:03 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: djf
I have found that TV Guide will alert you to what will happen up to 2 weeks into the future.
33 posted on 05/15/2013 3:12:36 PM PDT by I Drive Too Fast
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To: Boogieman

I agree that it might not be about predicting the future, specifically.

I’ve studied physics for a long time, and what I see here is a sort of indication that time might not be an absolute, linear thing that you can measure with a tape (we call the tape a “clock”), but that time might instead be a little fuzzy... sort of.

So that events cannot be said to happen at an absolute, fixed “time”, but actually occur kinda sorta “around” a particular time.


34 posted on 05/15/2013 3:12:58 PM PDT by djf (Rich widows: My Bitcoin address is... 1ETDmR4GDjwmc9rUEQnfB1gAnk6WLmd3n6)
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I always find it fascinating that scientists and people, neither of which understand more than the very basics of what goes on on and in planet Earth, Scientists and people who cannot with any certainty define consciousness, much less explain it, can say with absolute conviction that things like this are ‘impossible.’

They may well be and this is all hogwash. Or it may be real. But we are not even smart enough to ask the right questions much less provide definitive answers. See Galileo and the comparative science of his day vs ours for more on this subject.


35 posted on 05/15/2013 3:13:27 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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If you could get me the winning Power Ball numbers out of that machine, I would be most grateful and become an instant true believer.


36 posted on 05/15/2013 3:15:29 PM PDT by mohresearcher
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To: Boogieman
I was at a funeral service and a Buddhist priest talked about the deceased going to Nirvana. I asked him my question, and I assured him that I wasn't trying to be a smart ass. I said that we know that at one point, mankind didn't exist. So if mankind didn't exist, when did Nirvana come into being for mankind to go after death.

His answer went over and beyond me, and all I could really decipher was that time exists all at once, it isn't linear. Well, I asked.

37 posted on 05/15/2013 3:16:00 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: djf

it’s not predicting the future but more like reading the effects of a shock experienced by groups of people

it’s extremely interesting


38 posted on 05/15/2013 3:19:22 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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“I said that we know that at one point, mankind didn’t exist. So if mankind didn’t exist, when did Nirvana come into being for mankind to go after death.”

just because mankind didn’t exist at some point, doesn’t mean that Nirvana wasn’t in existence prior to mankind’s arrival. isn’t this situation similar to our own earth’s existence prior to its being inhabited by humankind? First God created the heavens and the earth, and then he created Adam, and Eve out of Adam’s side, to inhabit the Garden of Eden.


39 posted on 05/15/2013 3:36:21 PM PDT by IWONDR
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There’s this DR. Dean Radin.

A few years ago I jumped headfirst into his work on “Precognition and Presentiment”

http://deanradin.com/evidence/evidence.htm

The data and experiments seemed very very solid. Results showed test subjects having the ability to react to visual stimuli 3 to 5 seconds before seeing it.

Very compelling study.

The conclusion was one of two possibilities:

1. People can “sense” a future event.

or

2. We are living, in the past.

Sorry I can’t point you to the study, but from the link, you should be able to find it.


40 posted on 05/15/2013 3:39:06 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: sten

Read up on chaos theory and probability theory. Not light reading, but extremely interesting. Michu Kaiku’s ‘Hyperdimensions’ is also a fantastic read.


41 posted on 05/15/2013 3:40:12 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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I have no way to answer that because I can’t prove or disprove Nirvana. If Nirvana already existed, what was the point of creating man to go to Nirvana. Why not just side step the whole process and create the essence of man instead of the whole man? And then just go ahead and send the essence of man to Nirvana.


42 posted on 05/15/2013 3:42:26 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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The machine apparently sensed the September 11th attacks on the World Trade Center four hours before they happened, and appeared to forewarn of the Asian Tsunami.
I predict that this will be shown to be fraudelent.


43 posted on 05/15/2013 3:45:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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It's run by this guy!

44 posted on 05/15/2013 3:48:10 PM PDT by Fledermaus (The Republican Party is dead. Let's not pretend otherwise.)
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It could mean something like that, sure. It could also mean that it’s just our perception of time that is “fuzzy”. Think about a motion picture. It’s not a fluid moving image, but really just a series of static images displayed in sequence. Our brain takes that input and creates a fluid perception.

So, maybe time is quantized, and our brain just creates a fluid perception for us, which would necessarily be an imperfect approximation, since our brain would have to interpolate some things.

I’ve got a little theory about time myself, and in my theory, our perception of time is not actually limited to a single “instant” at a time, like it appears to us. I think we really perceive a very thin “slice” of time, including not just the present moment, but perhaps a tiny bit of the past, and a tiny bit of the future. Then, our brain probably filters out the “bookends” as irrelevant data. I derived this idea purely from common sense observations about relativity and time dilation.


45 posted on 05/15/2013 3:51:38 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: SunkenCiv

There have been a number of RNG experiments over the decades. The problem is that the ‘peer reviewers’ are the same people that ‘peer review” global warming studies. There is a large component of politics around this... Because of what actual ‘proof’ would mean for society as a whole.

Knowing who to trust with this stuff is the biggest problem.


46 posted on 05/15/2013 3:51:48 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Enterprise

If the side stepping of the process of the “whole man” experience, for the expediency of the “essence of man” experience of Nirvana existed, Nirvana, would not have any relative meaning.

For all we know, this current Human condition could be that Nirvana.


47 posted on 05/15/2013 3:56:04 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: djf

I was just discussing this with somebody next week.


48 posted on 05/15/2013 3:56:33 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: djf

This is not science. This is what you find on the ground after a male bovine finishes his meal.

NO, you do not expect it to be a flatline. The only thing we can say is that if you have a perfectly random generator producing numbers for an infinite time, there will tend to be an equal number of occurrences of each possibility.

A computer is a deterministic machine. No computer can ever produce a truly random sequence. Throwing balls or flipping coins is not perfectly random either.

The passage of electrons from one energy state to another is the nearest we can come to truly random.

No mind of God. No predicting the future. No sophisticated technology (most programming languages have pseudo-random generators)

An infinite time is that which you never reach.


49 posted on 05/15/2013 3:59:08 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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There is so much wrong with that article that I have to stop reading it.


50 posted on 05/15/2013 4:02:49 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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