Skip to comments.Have Scientists Discovered a Way of Peering Into the Future?
Posted on 05/15/2013 2:30:31 PM PDT by djf
Deep in the basement of a dusty old library in Edinburgh lies a small black box that churns out random numbers. At first glance the box looks profoundly dull, but it is, in fact, the eye' of a machine that appears capable of peering into the future.
The machine apparently sensed the September 11th attacks on the World Trade Center four hours before they happened, and appeared to forewarn of the Asian Tsunami.
"It's Earth shattering stuff," says Dr Roger Nelson, Emeritus researcher at Princeton University in the USA. "But unfortunately we don't have a box for predicting the future that we can sell to the CIA. We're very early on in the process of trying to figure out what's going on here. At the moment we're stabbing in the dark."
Dr Nelson's Global Consciousness Project - originally hosted by Princeton University - is one of the most extraordinary experiments of all time. It aims to sense' whether all of humanity shares a single unconscious mind that we all tap into without realizing it. Some might refer to it as the mind of God. But the machine has also thrown up another tantalizing possibility: that scientists may have unwittingly discovered a way of predicting the future.
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So it's telling them that in the future they will find a way to predict the future?
Will it tell us the day Emperor Zero goes to prison ?
Why don’t these scientists predict power ball numbers?
Sorry, only God and the prophets to whom He reveals his future are privy to what is about to happen. While the future certainly has a fixed outcome, there is no mechanism available to man to view it.
Let me guess, we’ll all be dead and until then pay taxes.
Oh, and the Cubs will still be waiting to win the World Series.
No. But it did see Mai Tais. pineapples, and stacks o gold.
Seems to violate causality to me. Interesting nonetheless.
Short answer: No.
Interesting text and references about astrology here:
Christianity and astrology
>>This is an absolutely fascinating article!!! <<
Or it will be... ;)
I hear ya!
But if they did, everybody would know the number, and the payout would be like 12 cents!
Person of Intrest?
I had a Magic Eightball that did the same thing..
And for far less $$$$$$$$$
Somebody should have warned the guy dribbling the soccer ball to south America.
...wierd physics ping....
You could sense it coming, couldn’t you?
I thought it was pretty neat too. I would have liked to have see these graphs that spike before and after and if they ever get slopes/spikes when there is no obvious global event. Also how long there is a spike on their random number generators.
This really isn’t about predicting anything specific about the future. The thesis is that human consciousness, alone, or in aggregate, can actually change probabilities, and they seem to have good data to back that up.
So, his machine can “sense” when those probabilities are being strongly affected by our consciousnesses, and that seems to be an indicator that a big event is happening or about to happening. However, there’s no way his machine can tell him what that event is, so he can’t actually see the future.
There is the truth of it - It seems science is returning to it's roots.
It’s useless to try to use this to predict anything. However, if their observations are correct, there are interesting ramifications for understanding things like human intuition. Or beating Las Vegas slot machines :)
Do they have a web site that displays a realtime graph or anything? I need to know when to start freaking out...
I agree that it might not be about predicting the future, specifically.
I’ve studied physics for a long time, and what I see here is a sort of indication that time might not be an absolute, linear thing that you can measure with a tape (we call the tape a “clock”), but that time might instead be a little fuzzy... sort of.
So that events cannot be said to happen at an absolute, fixed “time”, but actually occur kinda sorta “around” a particular time.
I always find it fascinating that scientists and people, neither of which understand more than the very basics of what goes on on and in planet Earth, Scientists and people who cannot with any certainty define consciousness, much less explain it, can say with absolute conviction that things like this are ‘impossible.’
They may well be and this is all hogwash. Or it may be real. But we are not even smart enough to ask the right questions much less provide definitive answers. See Galileo and the comparative science of his day vs ours for more on this subject.
If you could get me the winning Power Ball numbers out of that machine, I would be most grateful and become an instant true believer.
His answer went over and beyond me, and all I could really decipher was that time exists all at once, it isn't linear. Well, I asked.
it’s not predicting the future but more like reading the effects of a shock experienced by groups of people
it’s extremely interesting
“I said that we know that at one point, mankind didn’t exist. So if mankind didn’t exist, when did Nirvana come into being for mankind to go after death.”
just because mankind didn’t exist at some point, doesn’t mean that Nirvana wasn’t in existence prior to mankind’s arrival. isn’t this situation similar to our own earth’s existence prior to its being inhabited by humankind? First God created the heavens and the earth, and then he created Adam, and Eve out of Adam’s side, to inhabit the Garden of Eden.
There’s this DR. Dean Radin.
A few years ago I jumped headfirst into his work on “Precognition and Presentiment”
The data and experiments seemed very very solid. Results showed test subjects having the ability to react to visual stimuli 3 to 5 seconds before seeing it.
Very compelling study.
The conclusion was one of two possibilities:
1. People can “sense” a future event.
2. We are living, in the past.
Sorry I can’t point you to the study, but from the link, you should be able to find it.
Read up on chaos theory and probability theory. Not light reading, but extremely interesting. Michu Kaiku’s ‘Hyperdimensions’ is also a fantastic read.
I have no way to answer that because I can’t prove or disprove Nirvana. If Nirvana already existed, what was the point of creating man to go to Nirvana. Why not just side step the whole process and create the essence of man instead of the whole man? And then just go ahead and send the essence of man to Nirvana.
The machine apparently sensed the September 11th attacks on the World Trade Center four hours before they happened, and appeared to forewarn of the Asian Tsunami.I predict that this will be shown to be fraudelent.
It's run by this guy!
It could mean something like that, sure. It could also mean that it’s just our perception of time that is “fuzzy”. Think about a motion picture. It’s not a fluid moving image, but really just a series of static images displayed in sequence. Our brain takes that input and creates a fluid perception.
So, maybe time is quantized, and our brain just creates a fluid perception for us, which would necessarily be an imperfect approximation, since our brain would have to interpolate some things.
I’ve got a little theory about time myself, and in my theory, our perception of time is not actually limited to a single “instant” at a time, like it appears to us. I think we really perceive a very thin “slice” of time, including not just the present moment, but perhaps a tiny bit of the past, and a tiny bit of the future. Then, our brain probably filters out the “bookends” as irrelevant data. I derived this idea purely from common sense observations about relativity and time dilation.
There have been a number of RNG experiments over the decades. The problem is that the ‘peer reviewers’ are the same people that ‘peer review” global warming studies. There is a large component of politics around this... Because of what actual ‘proof’ would mean for society as a whole.
Knowing who to trust with this stuff is the biggest problem.
If the side stepping of the process of the “whole man” experience, for the expediency of the “essence of man” experience of Nirvana existed, Nirvana, would not have any relative meaning.
For all we know, this current Human condition could be that Nirvana.
I was just discussing this with somebody next week.
This is not science. This is what you find on the ground after a male bovine finishes his meal.
NO, you do not expect it to be a flatline. The only thing we can say is that if you have a perfectly random generator producing numbers for an infinite time, there will tend to be an equal number of occurrences of each possibility.
A computer is a deterministic machine. No computer can ever produce a truly random sequence. Throwing balls or flipping coins is not perfectly random either.
The passage of electrons from one energy state to another is the nearest we can come to truly random.
No mind of God. No predicting the future. No sophisticated technology (most programming languages have pseudo-random generators)
An infinite time is that which you never reach.
There is so much wrong with that article that I have to stop reading it.
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