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Farming on Mars: NASA ponders food supply for 2030s mission
Space.com via CBS ^ | May 15, 2013, 10:30 AM | Clara Moskowitz /

Posted on 05/16/2013 10:15:24 AM PDT by BenLurkin

The first humans to live on Mars might not identify as astronauts, but farmers. To establish a sustainable settlement on Earth's solar system neighbor, space travelers will have to learn how to grow food on Mars -- a job that could turn out to be one of the most vital, challenging and labor-intensive tasks at hand, experts say.

"One of the things that every gardener on the planet will know is producing food is hard -- it is a non-trivial thing," Penelope Boston, director of the Cave and Karst Studies program at New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology, said Tuesday at the Humans 2 Mars Summit at The George Washington University. "Up until several hundred years ago it occupied most of us for most of the time."

Early Mars colonists may have to revert to this mode of life to ensure their own survival, she suggested

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Food; Gardening; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: farming; farmingmars; farmingonmars; mars

1 posted on 05/16/2013 10:15:24 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Hey, just use a 3D printer...seems like they can make anything


2 posted on 05/16/2013 10:19:14 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: BenLurkin

I would send them on farming expeditions to the Atacama Desert for six months, make them work in space suits and see how they do before we go forth with any further planning. I’ve got just the first two choices, that nut job who drove all the way from Houston to Florida, in diapers without stopping, to get her man back.


3 posted on 05/16/2013 10:23:22 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: BenLurkin

This was figured out in science fiction long ago. Until you get established greenhouses underground, the fastest way to produce substantial and nutritious food is with microorganisms. You begin with them making the bulk of your nutritional needs, along with the dehydrated food you have brought with, and then you augment that with crops and finally animals.

Realistically speaking, this begins by sending nuclear powered tunneling robots, which burrow into a vertical cliff face and keep improving it until not only is there enough room for people, but a substantial amount of water and waste storage, and tunnels that will function as the home for a hydroponic garden.


4 posted on 05/16/2013 10:25:50 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Mouton
I would send them on farming expeditions to the Atacama Desert for six months

Antartica could be closer in temperature, but still not cold enough.

5 posted on 05/16/2013 10:27:13 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: BenLurkin
We could use huge amounts of money, R&D time and mission time growing potatoes in space for a multi-year Mars mission. OR we could dust off the plans for nuclear rocket engines that have been gathering dust since the 1960s and mount a 6-month mission with a heavier spacecraft and more and better science. For food we can just send along a crate or two of MREs.

But that makes too much sense, I'm sure. You get more "good government" points if you do space on a shoestring.

6 posted on 05/16/2013 10:32:28 AM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
This was figured out in science fiction long ago.

But this isn't a science fiction thread. Or is it? With NASA it's hard to tell at times.

Award for unintentional irony

Realistically speaking, this begins by sending nuclear powered tunneling robots, which burrow into a vertical cliff face and keep improving it until not only is there enough room for people, but a substantial amount of water and waste storage, and tunnels that will function as the home for a hydroponic garden.

I went to Walmart the other day to get some nuclear powered tunneling robots, but they didn't have any. I then tried Grainger, but they didn't have any either.

7 posted on 05/16/2013 10:32:49 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: BenLurkin

I don’t know if anyone here has ever eaten “Quorn”.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quorn

The mycoprotein used to produce Quorn is extracted from the fungus Fusarium venenatum.

However, I think they are missing a bet, by trying to keep it as strictly vegetarian. That is, if you would *augment* a faux meat with *real* flavorings, it would taste a heck of a lot better. This could include putting in bullion or animal fats, that would seriously boost both its nutritional value and taste.


8 posted on 05/16/2013 10:34:56 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: jboot
...OR...

Or we could just not do it and let the taxpayers KEEP THEIR MONEY THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN SPEND ON Pigs in Space

9 posted on 05/16/2013 10:35:45 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: BenLurkin

Farming on Mars...I wonder if there’s an economic stymulus for it from Obama?? (Dear El Presidente, may I have 3.7 billion dollars and 200,000 acres of prime Mars land. Thank You.. I want to grow apples and grapes on Mars.)


10 posted on 05/16/2013 10:40:44 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Ben Carson/Rand Paul in 2016)
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To: stuartcr

maybe take some food stamps with them up there. or whatever democrats usually do


11 posted on 05/16/2013 10:42:12 AM PDT by turdhopper
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To: turdhopper
maybe take some food stamps with them up there. or whatever democrats usually do

Nah, EBT cards so they can buy lap dances.

12 posted on 05/16/2013 10:46:06 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: BenLurkin

Two ships needed.

One for astronauts.

One for Twinkies.


13 posted on 05/16/2013 11:00:19 AM PDT by Cyman
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To: BenLurkin
NASA doesn't have to worry about a thing. The Mars One folks will have agriculture and food production achieved by 2024.

http://mars-one.com/en/mission/mission-and-vision


14 posted on 05/16/2013 11:16:20 AM PDT by CMB_polarization
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To: from occupied ga

Excellent idea


15 posted on 05/16/2013 11:29:56 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: BenLurkin

Stupid idea. Humans are optimized for living on Earth. Living on another planet will have them dead.


16 posted on 05/16/2013 11:31:41 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: Cyman

They could send the First Lady she has a garden ,she even wrote a book ,I think


17 posted on 05/16/2013 11:34:52 AM PDT by molson209
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
I don’t know if anyone here has ever eaten “Quorn”.

I hear they're sorta gamy.

18 posted on 05/16/2013 11:39:58 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: BenLurkin

Snow peas should be a good crop . . .


19 posted on 05/16/2013 12:09:48 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Mouton

Why not the moon after that? I am sure there are good reasons nonetheless the moon seems more feasible


20 posted on 05/16/2013 12:14:09 PM PDT by winodog
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To: BenLurkin

I’m sure there will be a Super Center there if Wal Mart keeps expanding.


21 posted on 05/16/2013 12:29:23 PM PDT by Alex in chains
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To: Alex in chains

Cool!

If they get that and a Jiffy Lube, they’ll have all I need.


22 posted on 05/16/2013 12:39:47 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: BenLurkin

A whataburger.


23 posted on 05/16/2013 12:48:50 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: ExCTCitizen

This just opens the door to Pigford Part 2, when all the “poor black farmers” claim they were denied their government-subsidized farmland on Mars.


24 posted on 05/16/2013 1:22:10 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: winodog

There’s no real point to colonizing the moon or Mars, when we have so much unused space on planet Earth. We’ve got an entire empty continent on Earth that is much more hospitable than the Moon or Mars, and would cost astronomically less to colonize than either of those places. We’d also eliminate the two biggest hurdles to colonization (lack of water & oxygen), and any resources we harvest there would cost basically nothing to ship back to “civilization” compared to shipping from another planet.

So, until I see Antarctica being colonized, I have no interest in any of my money being spent on these fool’s errands.


25 posted on 05/16/2013 1:36:28 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: I want the USA back
“Stupid idea. Humans are optimized for living on Earth. Living on another planet will have them dead.”

I'm sure something similar was said to the first humans thinking of crossing the Bering Straight, the Atlantic, island hopping across the Pacific, etc.

Man was born in a temperate climate abundant with food (”Eden”). Now look how many races man has adapted into across every corner of the globe in every climate.

We are explorers and the ultimate adaptable species. This is a temporary planet and Man's destiny is in the stars

26 posted on 05/16/2013 2:31:59 PM PDT by varyouga
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