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All scandals merely symptoms of THE problem: The Democrats stole the election
Reading | 20 May 2013 | Mene

Posted on 05/20/2013 6:28:39 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

The scandals appearing in the news are merely symptoms of THE most important problem at hand, which has yet to explode on the scene. The Democrats stole the last presidential election (they first tried with Gore) and have probably stolen many legislative elections. Evidence seems to be mounting as one reads about the many precincts in Philadelphia having not a single Romney vote (statistical impossibility) and then the latest news were "True the Vote" was harassed by not only the IRS, but the FBI, OSHA AND the ATF.

Since no charges were filed, WHO sicced four Federal agencies on an organization whose sole purpose is to make sure voting fraud does not occur? And why? If the media would actually wake up, they would discover that the nation has been defrauded for two elections and policies have been put in place to make sure the leftists never leave power again until the whole thing collapses. Meanwhile, THE agenda is pro-homosexuality and eventual confiscation of weapons to prevent rebellion against the illegal takeover of government.


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Not much else to say.
1 posted on 05/20/2013 6:28:39 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Not much else to say is riught...

But not much will happen until we get an honest media.


2 posted on 05/20/2013 6:30:56 AM PDT by Former MSM Viewer
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

The DIMocRATs have stolen many elections.


3 posted on 05/20/2013 6:31:15 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Thank you! I am so sick of people saying “the Republicans had nothing to offer blah blah blah” it was voter fraud plain and simple.


4 posted on 05/20/2013 6:32:08 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
I am at a loss for why a RNC-type group or conservative leaning group to pay for research in those Philly districts to confirm the votes that were tabulated. While I know many Obamawannabes who walk and talk like one, they secretly voted for the other side - they just couldn't publicly say it.
5 posted on 05/20/2013 6:33:07 AM PDT by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Unscrupulous, incompetent and arrogant creeps pushed to the head of the line.

Not good.

Conservatives stood by and let them.

Worse!


6 posted on 05/20/2013 6:34:15 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
I hope your moniker becomes reality for the 0bama regime.

Amen.

5.56mm

7 posted on 05/20/2013 6:34:58 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Not much else to say.

And the damn Stupid Party is too stupid and worthless to do a thing about it. Seems like they really enjoy their occasional White House dinners and occasional golfing with Obambozo.

Wouldn't be surprised if, right now, ballots weren't being printed for the 2014 election and being placed in strategic locations to be used where needed.

And what is the Stupid Party going to do to prevent this? NOTHING!

8 posted on 05/20/2013 6:35:13 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

True The Vote Founder speaks out:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/05/unreal-irs-shake-down-of-true-the-vote-involved-visits-from-fbi-osha-and-atf-who-checked-her-gun-safe-video/


9 posted on 05/20/2013 6:35:23 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Is it Romania yet?


10 posted on 05/20/2013 6:38:12 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Obviously, Obama’s campaign was trying to shut down his opposition by tying up patriot groups so they couldn’t collect funds.

Meanwhile, his crook half-brother got a tax exemption for his “charity” in three weeks from Lois Lerner, who so helpfully made it retroactive so he wouldn’t go to jail for collecting money without an exemption. As George Orwell observed in “1984”, “Some animals are more equal than others,” in Obama’s Brave New World.


11 posted on 05/20/2013 6:38:41 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Cletus’ Opinion on “How It Happened”

Step 1: Arrange for poll workers to be “guaranteed” low-info voters.
Step 2: Arrange for their directors to be in communication with each other on the “basics” of the task (courtesy of Oragnizing For America).
Step 3: Arrange for the media to be eager to see Obama re-elected and leverage any report as “in his favor.”
Step 4: Wait for the media to announce a “predicted winner”.
Step 5: Once Obama is the predicted as winning, have the Poll Managers tell the workers they no longer need to count votes, OBama has won; individual precincts have no cause for concern.
Step 6: The managers report that all remaining uncounted votes were cast for Obama (that’s why you get precincts wiiht 100% + Obama totals).

It wasn’t stolen, it was simply, never counted.


12 posted on 05/20/2013 6:42:06 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: All
Romney never looked as stupid as he did when conceding the election....which had been clearly stolen by Ohaha.

Obama kept bragging he was s-o-o-o-o popular---campaign contributions were raining down on him---and that he was the very first billion dollar candidate. Later, he said he had to "borrow" to continue his campaign. Huh?

ANOTHER LOST OPENING FOR ROMNEY Where were all the FEC reports---where did O spend all that money? Romney said and did nothing.

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The Obamatons cunningly suppressed the vote---siccing the IRS on conservative/patriotic voters. The O Team crippled the Republicans who had already shot themselves in the foot by picking Romney----another one of their loser candidates.

And recall that stupid RINO Pubbies ALSO called for investigations of Tea Party groups' tax status.

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Obomba's sinister shadow hovers over America----a constant threat to our liberty and our lives. He's got DHS stockpiling ammo---and intends to multiply the onerous IRS forces----adding 16,000 new IRS agents, arming them w/ millions of ammo rounds (the "civilian ntl security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded as our military").

O probably intends to task the IRS to enforce the nightmare of immigrations reform----to keep his filthy hands on the levers of power.

CRAVING POPULARITY IS A SIGN OF DICTATORSHIP Obomba's methodology, including controlling the fawning press is a relic of 40's-era Europe---Pol Pot, Chavez, and Stalin, all rolled into one.

13 posted on 05/20/2013 6:43:59 AM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

THE problem: socialists/totalitarians. Identify them. Identify their collectives. DEFUND their collectives, foreign and domestic. DISMANTLE their collectives. DEPOPULATE them from the body politic.

“Above all, if you wish to be strong, begin by rooting out every particle of socialism that may have crept into your legislation. This will be no light task.” - The Law; Frederic Bastiat 1801-1850

live - free - republic


14 posted on 05/20/2013 6:52:34 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: All
Who is this guy in the White House?

The belatedly-alert media must NOW ask the questions they should have asked THEN---when Ohaha first surfaced as a candidate. Remember that O's 2008 PR person----Anita "Mao" Dunn--- said AFTER the election that the O Team "allowed" the media to know only what THEY wanted them to know.

Ohaha was tightly scripted on the campaign trail---saying only cute things that would get him elected----revealing none of his anti-America hatred. The Chi/mob Dunn/Axelrod/Enmanuel/Jarrett allowed NO probing questions and up-close interviews. Ohaha was coached......genially saying on the campaign trail that he wanted to be "another Reagan."

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Hillary and Bill had ominous pics of Obama in Muslim garb--but Teddy Kennedy warned them not to use them.

OBOMBA THE MUSLIM---OBOMBA CELEBRATES HIS HERITAGE ON A TRIP TO KENYA AT AGE 23-24 Hillary/Bill had these pics during the primary---but Teddy Kennedy warned them not to use them.

(right) Obama's brother Malik holds up photo.

15 posted on 05/20/2013 6:53:58 AM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Anyone who voted for Hussein in 2008 deserves America’s pity.
Anyone who voted for Hussein in 2012 deserves America’s contempt.


16 posted on 05/20/2013 6:59:02 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

...but our leader stood up at Ohio State commencement and said that government was not evil and we should ignore those that say it is...


17 posted on 05/20/2013 7:13:23 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: laweeks
And what is the Stupid Party going to do to prevent this? NOTHING!

That's so true. I really don't understand why no one in the GOP will bring up the subject of voter fraud, at least indirectly.

But there is one thing I do know. Since the dem's are not being challenged on this issue, they will be emboldened to do it again and again, but now on a larger scale.

18 posted on 05/20/2013 7:13:48 AM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: BenLurkin

You are more compassionate than I. Anyone that voted for him either time is a moron and traitor to liberty.


19 posted on 05/20/2013 7:15:40 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Leaning Right
Since the dem's are not being challenged on this issue, they will be emboldened to do it again and again, but now on a larger scale.

Ever since that SNL fool Al Franken stole the election with hundreds if not thousands of ballots in car trunks in Minnesota, it's been obvious that whatever they did worked, and the Stupid Party did everything but apologize for questioning that election.

Each and every time I get any mail or phone solicitations from the Stupid Party, I do whatever I can to insult them. And lately the Stupid Party's mail is using names like Newt and Paul to phony up the solicitation. Right in the garbage.

20 posted on 05/20/2013 7:18:43 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: laweeks

You would think that at the very least the GOP would question irregularities when it comes to the military vote.

Back in November of 2012 there were stories of service members getting their ballots late, or not having their ballots counted.

But who cares? Certainly not the GOP. In a way, calling them the Stupid Party is actually being kind.


21 posted on 05/20/2013 7:26:39 AM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Not much else to say.

But there is plenty more to say! It is not about a stolen election, but a stolen republic and the loss of most free and prosperous civilization in the history of humanity. It is about the pollution of culture, the corruption of character and the eventual fall of the west. No I'm not being hyperbolic and no it didn't start with Obama. A body can tolerate a little toxicity as can a body politic, but the toxicity has been increasing rapidly and the body defense mechanisms have been infected by an auto immune disorder. In fact the IRS scandal is an attack on the production of white blood cells. The body has been attacked from within and the American way of life is perishing fast. What made America great was that she was good, now she is just good at evil.

22 posted on 05/20/2013 7:28:43 AM PDT by DaveyB (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. -John Adams)
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To: Leaning Right
Back in November of 2012 there were stories of service members getting their ballots late, or not having their ballots counted.

And wasn't there something in the news prior to the election that a plane had gone down with thousands of ballots from the military? I know the military completely (except for the faggots) despises this pretender and his lard-ass wife, so it's no surprise that absolutely nothing was done to protect the military's ballots.

23 posted on 05/20/2013 7:32:50 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin; Impy; InterceptPoint; randita; Political Junkie Too; SunkenCiv; ...
Evidence seems to be mounting as one reads about the many precincts in Philadelphia having not a single Romney vote (statistical impossibility) and then the latest news were "True the Vote" was harassed by not only the IRS, but the FBI, OSHA AND the ATF.

Yes, I've pointed out on other threads the statistical impossibility of Romney being "shut out" completely in any sizable election precinct, even in predominantly black neighborhoods. Same thing happened in Cleveland precincts. Notice that the shenanigans were deliberately targeted to swing states where the 'Rats thought they could very will lose if they didn't cheat on the vote tallies.

Didn't know about the problems suffered by True the Vote, but they might explain why neither the defrauded Romney campaign nor any Republican organization I know of has yet to complain publicly about the fraud and cheating that occurred on behalf of the 'rats.

The "stealing" of the presidential election was likely accomplished not only by the "traditional" low-tech schemes - e.g., same voter votes multiple times in different locations (aided and abetted by prolonged polling hours due to "early voting" and by "Motor Voter" or same-day registration) or votes both as absentee and in-person, others vote for deceased or moved-out or handicapped people, ineligible voters cast ballots - but also by high-tech hacking into vulnerable electronic voting equipment such as optical scanners and touch screen systems. It was targeted to Democrat dominated cities and counties in the swing states.

BTW, the discrepancies in Obama's favor between the purported vote totals state-by-state and the polling forecasts are much more likely to be caused by this fraud and cheating than by errors in polling technique. In other words, the best pollster in the world can't account for fraud and cheating in his projected results.

24 posted on 05/20/2013 7:51:58 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

Obama Voter Fraud

http://www.nachumlist.com/obamavoter.htm


25 posted on 05/20/2013 7:54:35 AM PDT by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: justiceseeker93

The “stealing of the election” was accomplished by traitors within the Republican establishment who diverted conservative efforts.

This effort is exemplified by Romney himself, refusing to meet with Sarah Palin. He wanted to keep her and the Tea Party as far from this election as possible.

THAT is why we lost.


26 posted on 05/20/2013 8:00:40 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: justiceseeker93

Not to forget the SEIU and the voting machines.


27 posted on 05/20/2013 8:05:13 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: justiceseeker93

Exactly what you and I have been saying all along.

Seems like we were NOT being “paranoid” after all.


28 posted on 05/20/2013 8:14:07 AM PDT by left that other site ((Ban the ubiquitous and deadly solvent, Di-hydrogen monoxide!!!))
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Stealing his
Senate seat was child’s play compared to what he’s learned since.


29 posted on 05/20/2013 8:32:48 AM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Yes...will take bloodshed to return to freedom, sadly. The dark cabal took over our nation when they took out JFK...even though he was a democrat..he was conservative in many ways.


30 posted on 05/20/2013 8:35:26 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: BenLurkin

What about those who have already voted for his 2016 run?


31 posted on 05/20/2013 8:36:37 AM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: laweeks
And wasn't there something in the news prior to the election that a plane had gone down with thousands of ballots from the military?

Except we were never told when nor were shown pictures of the crash. I believe thousands of ballots were destroyed, but not in a plane crash.

32 posted on 05/20/2013 8:40:06 AM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: PGalt
Bastiat Bump!

Essays on Political Economy (1874)

by M. Frederic Bastiat

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/15962/15962-h/15962-h.htm

“Now, legal plunder may be exercised in an infinite multitude of ways. Hence come an infinite multitude of plans for organisation; tariffs, protection, perquisites, gratuities, encouragements, progressive taxation, gratuitous instruction, right to labour, right to profit, right to wages, right to assistance, right to instruments of labour, gratuity of credit, &c., &c. And it is all these plans, taken as a whole, with what they have in common, legal, plunder, which takes the name of socialism.”

33 posted on 05/20/2013 8:40:08 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
The reason Republicans will not investigate voter fraud is because they too, have been involved in the same.
34 posted on 05/20/2013 9:27:56 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: justiceseeker93
The fact that only 9% of those polled actually end up providing an answer gives the edge to subpopulations who simply make it a practice for every member who gets a call from a pollster to answer it.

Example, if you have 1000 people and 10 are gay, the other 990 are not gay. Yet if the not gays answer normally ~ at 9% ~ they'll account for 90 responses. If the gays answer abnormally, that is all the time, the 10 gays will account for 10 responses.

Simple math. Let's add in unionized school teachers. Then, the abortion industry. You probably have a good 30% of the total responses accounted for by 3 small far leftwing or very special interest groups.

I don't think you can trust Romney's polls ~ the gays liked him eh!

35 posted on 05/20/2013 10:07:34 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
It was "death by a thousand cuts". All executed without any oppostion so it didn't even matter how incompetent they are.

105% turn out at certain precincts, dead registered, digitizing the fraud, intimidating the tea party, busing their welfare voters around with fake voter IDs, stealing boxes of ballots in heavily R precincts...all occurred. And, where exactly is the Republican party?

36 posted on 05/20/2013 10:10:56 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: muawiyah; All
The fact that only 9% of those polled actually end up providing an answer gives the edge to subpopulations who simply make it a practice for every member who gets a call from a pollster to answer it.

I do agree that, in general, Democrat voters answer pollsters more frequently than Republicans do. If the pollster doesn't make modifications in his raw data to account for this bias in favor of the Dems, he comes out with a bottom line that overstates the percentage of the vote that the 'Rat candidate will achieve. But this is not what happened in the 2012 presidential election in swing state after swing state. The opposite occurred: usually reliable pollsters underestimated Obama's ultimate reported percentage of the vote. In fact, state after state where Romney was said by pollsters to have led by one, two, or three points was won by Zero (at lest if you believe the reported vote counts). So I don't see how your assumption about Dems being overrepresented in answering pollsters - though probably true in most instances - relates to what actually happened in last year's presidential election.

The most logical way to explain the discrepancy between the polling results and the reported vote totals is that the reported vote totals were effected seriously in Zero's favor by fraud and cheating, factors which no pollster can estimate before the election is completed and ballots are tabulated.

37 posted on 05/20/2013 1:53:14 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Not to forget the SEIU and the voting machines.

Yes, there could very well have been a serious amount of high-tech fraud going on, like hacking into optical scanners and touch screen equipment to alter the counting of the votes in the 'rats' favor. In jurisdictions where SEIU types service the voting equipment and have custody of it, the risk of this type of cheating is multiplied.

38 posted on 05/20/2013 2:08:21 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

No. IIRC, there is a court decision banning the GOP from fighting vote fraud.

http://judicialview.com/Court-Cases/Civil-Procedure/Democratic-National-Committee-v-Republican-National-Committee/10/201975

Democratic National Committee v Republican National Committee
Case No. 09-4615 (C.A. 3, Mar. 8, 2012)
In 1982, the Republican National Committee (“RNC”) and the Democratic National Committee (“DNC”) entered into a consent decree (the “Decree” or “Consent Decree”), which is national in scope, limiting the RNC’s ability to engage or assist in voter fraud prevention unless the RNC obtains the court’s approval in advance. The RNC appeals from a judgment of the United States District Court for the District of New Jersey denying, in part, the RNC’s Motion to Vacate or Modify the Consent Decree. Although the District Court declined to vacate the Decree, it did make modifications to the Decree. The RNC argues that the District Court abused its discretion by modifying the Decree as it did and by declining to vacate the Decree. For the following reasons, we will affirm the District Court’s judgment.


39 posted on 05/20/2013 2:20:51 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: justiceseeker93
I just explained that the homosexuals pushed Romney's poll numbers up ~ showed the mechanism ~ and you believe that could happen but don't want to think of it as having happened.

It's not so much Democrats answering polls more frequently ~ it's about subgroups like the NEA, the abortion rights fanatics and the homosexuals answering polls every single time!

That's been happening all along. It's the reason why gay marriage polls show it's popular, but when put to a vote it generally loses.

The only way pollsters can deal with this is to get out of the polling business.

40 posted on 05/20/2013 3:15:50 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
"The reason Republicans will not investigate voter fraud is because they too, have been involved in the same."

That is almost certainly true Mene. As a follower of “True The Vote” I wondered why there was so little significant exposure appearing at their site.

Almost all the concern and observations in this thread have validity, but are all moot because there is no “audit trail” or other way to check the actual vote built into our voting mechanism. Auditing capability was removed when we replaced paper ballots counted at precincts with machines where counting was presumably performed after the ballots or punch cards disappeared behind a wall of secrecy with results reported some time after all the evidence is concealed. The only reason Bush won the election in Florida is because there were still punch cards stored, though as we saw, the counting was corrupt. The counting should have been completed at the precincts. Germany has addressed this problem by returning to paper ballots. That must be our first action if enough citizens still believe in a representative republic.

All the techniques taught by Obama at Project Vote are most likely a diversion. There is no way to validate a vote count after a precinct is closed, and the data are not on paper. The bussing of illegals and multiple votes solicited by Acorn workers serves the purpose, if necessary, of sacrificial lambs. When the public begins to wonder why every close election is lost, or why there are 30% more voters than registered citizens there must be some "investigation" to assure the public elections have legitimacy. How Romney can receive no votes in 150 or so precincts, where many minority families are devout Christians who cannot vote to continue to fund Planned Parenthood or late term abortions certainly requires some explanations. The low-level Acorn employees "responsible" just move to a similar organization with a new name. The black families who passed the proposition in blue California to prohibit homosexual marriage have counterparts in Cleveland and Philadelphia and Ohio, in many of those precincts were Romney didn't receive a single vote, and where over 130% of registered voters voted for Obama.

There are many Democrats who support Democracy. They too have been violated by our loss of voting integrity. The vicious IRS attack on True The Vote confirms the importance to Soros and his minions of owning the voting processes, which the left does today, and upon which Soros has spent in excess of 100 million dollars. Computers are as inconsistent with secure voting and audit trails as Sharia is with Democracy, and connected, as we see with Chavez’ and Saudi ownership of one of, if not the largest, electronic voting equipment company moving rapidly into district after district in the US.

The most complete historical analysis of techniques being used by both parties available for public consumption is a book published in 1996 by two leftists, James and Kenneth Collier, running a campaign for congress in Broward County Florida - “Votescam”. The documented the remarkable control of votes, which included corruption of the League of Women Voters, whose president committed suicide when exposed, and repeated disappearance of evidence sent to the FBI, even after being handed to the FBI, showing complicity at very high levels. The brothers who conducted the election (one was a lawyer), wrote the book, and filmed the prepunched rolls in the voting machines stored in a warehouse, filmed the League of Women Voters invaliding punch cards by punching an extra hole, are included their FBI documents. Their case was finally thrown out by a Broward Asst. DA named Janet Reno claiming the voter fraud case exceeded the statute of limitations. The fix in the judiciary was such the fact there was no such statue for voter fraud showed that the statement was for the public given, as today, a compliant press that would not dare repeat the truth.

While today our CIA is being directed by a Wahhabi Muslim, John Brennan, thirty years ago it commissioned a study, discovered during the research into corruption of our voting processes by the Collier Brothers. I'll quote a paragraph from their book, and cite their source, a CIA-commissioned study in 1980 by The Air Command and Staff College and University of New Mexico. Their research was published in the International Journal of Public Administration:

"The United States government has no elections office and does not attempt to administer congressional elections. The responsibility for the administrations of elections and certification of winners in the United States National election rests with a consortium of private entities, including 110,000 members of the national League of Women Voters. . The formal structure of election administration in the United States is not capable of providing the major TV networks with timely results of the presidential and congressional elections. In the case of counting actual ballots on election night, public officials have abdicated responsibility of aggregation of election night vote totals to a private organization, News Elections Service of New York (NES),. NES is a wholly owned subsidiary joint-venture of national television networks, ABC, CBS, and NBC, and the press wire services AP and UPI. [I believe CNN and perhaps FOX have joined the consortium since]. This private organization performs without a contract, without supervision by public officials. It makes decisions concerning its duties according to its own criteria. The question and accountability of News Election Service has not arisen in the nations press because the responsibility NES how has in counting the nations' votes was assumed gradually over a lengthy period without ever being evaluated as an item on the public agenda."

We are closer to tyranny than most realize. Voting, if it were not thoroughly controlled by our executive branch , is one of the last peaceful ways to restore representative government. Why else is Napolitano stockpiling hollow point ammunition? It is a UN violation if used by our armed forces. But remember Obama’s truthful revelation, “We need to create a civilian armed force, as large and well-equipped as our military...” Most Westerners dismiss his words as hyperbole, just as they dismiss Ahmadinejad’s and Morsi’s and Erdoqan’s, and the Imam's at the Boston Mosque, or the Blind Sheik's before the second WTC attack (he is in prison for the 93 WTC bombing).

41 posted on 05/20/2013 3:26:49 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: muawiyah
I just explained that the homosexuals pushed Romney's poll numbers up.

Why would they want to do that? I'd be pretty darn sure that they voted heavily for Zero, in significantly larger percentage than the general population.

42 posted on 05/20/2013 3:35:44 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93
You'd had to have been asleep for a couple of decades to have missed out on Mitt Romney single handedly inventing GAY MARRIAGE!

His first policy hire for his campaign was a GAY GUY.

He beat Obama to the punch!

43 posted on 05/20/2013 4:09:39 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Spaulding
Paper ballots offered no more of an audit trail than any other method!

Used to be the cheaters held tight to the paper ballot systems on the grounds that there was a PAPER TRAIL ~ as if that even meant something. Nobody's signature is on the ballot so you don't know where it came from.

Electronic systems are as reliable and useful as any other although I rather admire the Greek system where you held your hand in the air. That was replaced by the easily defrauded 'light or dark piece of tile in a bucket' system.

44 posted on 05/20/2013 4:12:41 PM PDT by muawiyah
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"Paper ballots offered no more of an audit trail than any other method!"

That is nonsense muawiyah. Paper is fragile, but once a ballot has been marked, placed in secure container in plain view of precinct workers from all parties, and counted in the presence of those parties, and the boxes secured and stored with all the security we have, transported to storage warehouses with witnesses from both parties, with electronics [RFID is common but there are a number of newer technologies]to monitor the boxes as are used in Walmart, and video surveillance of the counting just like what is found in every gambling casino in the US beyond corner drugstores, which allow the Casino to read every hand you play, with videos stored for months or even years, you have a reasonable assurance that a recount can be performed.

Once bits are written to memory, of any type, with no error checking or correction meaningful, since the original action cannot be verified (a touchscreen or button or scan produces a few bytes with no audit trail, no paper copy; though paper printouts are often provided, they are not themselves provably valid). Every electronic counting device would need to be installed and operated from within a Faraday cage to try to prevent remote access for data manipulation or control. Electronic data acquisition provides the easiest means of inventing election results because so few understand the many stages associated with insuring that data are valid.

It was my business for over twenty years, and part of my job was to anticipate mechanisms for falsifying data because the FDA was fierce about results submitted without thorough authentication, and wouldn't consider allowing drugs manufactured without such audit trails to be approved, and would certainly prosecute anyone caught submitting false analysis. If the "Blue Box" at Moffett Field can be penetrated, and NSA facilities can spend billions trying to secure their internal communications, what chance is there that election precincts can make their electronics secure. With so much money at stake I can assure you that a standard electronics component, usually based upon "Field Programmable Gate Arrays", FPGAs, could have a cell added to otherwise identical units for communicating with an external source, and not even the manufacturers would know.

45 posted on 05/20/2013 4:53:13 PM PDT by Spaulding
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There's simply no audit trail ~ electronic or paper ~ that tracks backwards from the point where the ballots are counted to the citizen who voted.

It does not exist!

As anyone who has ever studied the Chicago method can tell you witnesses lie, officials can be bribed, boxes can be swapped,.......

46 posted on 05/20/2013 5:33:57 PM PDT by muawiyah
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Thanks justiceseeker93.


47 posted on 05/20/2013 6:55:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Spaulding

Well said.


48 posted on 05/20/2013 7:17:10 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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49 posted on 05/20/2013 7:18:44 PM PDT by narses
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To: muawiyah
Despite what Romney did in Taxachusetts, do you really think Romney got anywhere near 50% of the gay vote in last year's election? Of course not, he isn't a Democrat, so he'd be foolish to even explicitly try for their votes because he'd be offending a lot more people if he did.
50 posted on 05/20/2013 7:20:46 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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