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PHOTO: Anti-Tobacco/Anti-Smoking Sign, circa 1915; Zion, Illinois (Birth of the Nanny State?)
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Posted on 05/26/2013 10:46:26 AM PDT by DogByte6RER

1915: Anti-Smoking Sign, Zion, Illinois

Anti-Smoking Sign, circa 1915

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TOPICS: Arts/Photography; Chit/Chat; History; Society
KEYWORDS: addiction; antismoking; antitobaccoscam; nannystate; prohibition; smoking; smokingiscool
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carrie nation photo: Carrie Nation Carrie2BNation.jpg These folks in Zion, IL sound almost as fun as the the hatchet wielding prohibitionist Carrie Nation ...
1 posted on 05/26/2013 10:46:26 AM PDT by DogByte6RER
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To: DogByte6RER

Bloomberg’s Grandma?


2 posted on 05/26/2013 11:04:51 AM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: DogByte6RER

Puritans are deathly afraid someone, somewhere may be having fun.


3 posted on 05/26/2013 11:07:01 AM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: DogByte6RER

Notice the name of the town? They had a big court case a few years ago about the cross on city seal which was on the town water tower. Founded by a very religious sect, and I am sure they were aligned with Carrie Nation


4 posted on 05/26/2013 11:10:45 AM PDT by sharkhawk (Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall.)
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To: DogByte6RER
Heavy church influence in Zion, IL.

Some of these older utopian-type churches seem rigid and joyless.

5 posted on 05/26/2013 11:12:42 AM PDT by Aliska
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To: Aliska
It didn't take my link.

Zion Christian Catholic Church History

6 posted on 05/26/2013 11:14:36 AM PDT by Aliska
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To: DogByte6RER

The smoking wars are over. Smokers lost. Deal with it.


7 posted on 05/26/2013 11:18:43 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Anti smoking was waaaaaay before this. No booze, no smoking...


8 posted on 05/26/2013 11:20:42 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: DogByte6RER

Frankly, I don't see much difference between the two.

9 posted on 05/26/2013 11:23:33 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
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To: DogByte6RER

But! She is exactly correct. Personally, I don’t care if people smoke. I just do not to smell it anymore and I don’t want to pay for their cancer, cardiac, etc healthcare. Once we are okay with the government paying for our healthcare, then we are going to have them telling us how to live.


10 posted on 05/26/2013 11:24:25 AM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: dirtymac

And I don’t want to pay for drinker’s and drug user’s liver problems, or gay’s aids problems.


11 posted on 05/26/2013 11:28:45 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: DogByte6RER

folks who were community organizers and social do gooders


12 posted on 05/26/2013 11:28:50 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: dirtymac
Once we are okay with the government paying for our healthcare, then we are going to have them telling us how to live.

The government was telling us how to live long before you were okay with the government paying for your healthcare.

13 posted on 05/26/2013 11:30:48 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: dirtymac

<....”I don’t care if people smoke..... I don’t want to pay for their cancer, cardiac, etc healthcare”....>

Are you going to also say this also about fat people... for their health issues have far surpassed smokers now....

...additionally recent article says “sitters”, who do nothing but use technology all day, have “replaced” smokers in health care issues.

..and what about those who are STD infected for their lifestyle choices to engage in sex at will?

The list goes on and on....but the old story of laying blame on smokers has long been replaced by other practices draining the health care system.


14 posted on 05/26/2013 11:34:52 AM PDT by caww
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To: Drango

...”The smoking wars are over. Smokers lost”...

Now it’s the lard butts who they’ll soon be going after....who have far surpassed the smokers in taxing the healthcare system.

It’s be their “Turn” do deal with it”.


15 posted on 05/26/2013 11:37:50 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Latest nannie target: people who spend too much time at their computers. Not about carpal tunnel or eyestrain, it’s the sitting that’s bad for you. Their slogan:

“Sitting is the new smoking”


16 posted on 05/26/2013 11:49:17 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: DogByte6RER

I lived in Zion, IL the first year I was married. Zion was known as the home of the “blue” laws, as well as the home of a sect called the “Christian Catholic Church” (no relation to the Roman Catholic Church).

Everything commercial was closed on Sundays. No alcohol or tobacco was sold within the city limits. All of the streets had Biblical names. I lived on Ezekial Ave., and the train station was on Bethlehem Road.

It was a pretty little town at the time, however.


17 posted on 05/26/2013 11:54:57 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: caww; Drango

Don’t waste your time with this one. Every time he/she cheers for the “wins” of his anti-smoker cartel he/she is actually cheering the drowning of freedom. Why h/she continues to post on this site is beyond me. Anyone who supports over reaching government really doesn’t belong here.

He/she has no comprehension that the cheering of stripping rights for some is encouraging the stripping of rights for all.


18 posted on 05/26/2013 11:56:15 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: DogByte6RER
Older picture from HILL'S MANUAL OF SOCIAL AND BUSINESS FORMS (1880)


19 posted on 05/26/2013 11:58:04 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (When someone burns a cross on your lawn, the best firehose is an AK-47.)
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To: dirtymac

I stood behind a man at the pharmacy earlier today. He had a foul smell that was noticeable 6 feet away. What was he buying? Cigarettes.


20 posted on 05/26/2013 11:58:49 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: andy58-in-nh; DogByte6RER
Frankly, I don't see much difference between the two.

carrie had balls

21 posted on 05/26/2013 11:59:46 AM PDT by bigheadfred ( barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: DogByte6RER
Gee whiz, couldn't they have just posted a

 NO SMOKING 

sign?

22 posted on 05/26/2013 12:00:44 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (People are idiots.)
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To: Gabz
actually cheering the drowning of freedom

There is no freedom in addiction. Stop hyperventilating. Deal wit it.

23 posted on 05/26/2013 12:01:35 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Slings and Arrows
Hookah Smojking Caterpillar photo VpQcVh_zps6c5fec40.gif Ping
24 posted on 05/26/2013 12:10:23 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: afraidfortherepublic

In a Republic every man rich or poor has the right to starve, live under a bridge, and smoke. Get a Nose Gay and stop dictating peoples behavior.


25 posted on 05/26/2013 12:14:12 PM PDT by Little Bill (A)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

You poor thing. Feeling better now?


26 posted on 05/26/2013 12:21:52 PM PDT by heights
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To: Drango
There is no freedom in addiction. Stop hyperventilating. Deal wit it.

No - you deal with it, considering you are the one with the addiction. Dictating to others how to live their lives is your addiction. There is no freedom in tyranny, but you get absolute pleasure in it.

We get great enjoyment out of your kind - the kind that walk into an establishment with great big signs saying "Smoking Permitted" who then get offended because people are smoking. More often than not they are asked to leave, as they are unpleasant, stingy and just don't belong.

27 posted on 05/26/2013 12:41:28 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Last night we went to Ft. Lauderdale beach for their memorial day beach party.

And with 15mph winds we could still smell cigs, plus something else.

30 min into “Back to the Future” on the big inflatable screen, it blew over and they cancelled it! Drove all the way to the beach in traffic and paid $10 parking for nothing. What a mob it was down there.


28 posted on 05/26/2013 12:43:57 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (0bama is a POS, with all due respect to excrement.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
He had a foul smell that was noticeable 6 feet away.

And you know it was because he smokes, how? Also, what one considers a foul smell is entirely subjective. Many people find the smell of fields freshly dressed with manure to be foul, I personally look forward to it and do not find it offensive in the least.

29 posted on 05/26/2013 12:45:48 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Drango
The smoking wars are over. Smokers lost. Deal with it.

Some generations cherish freedom (Founding Fathers, WWII generation) and some despise it, fear it, or do not understand it (Prohibition generation, Baby Boom Generation).

It is a cycle, so it is not over. Freedom is just taking a generational nap.
30 posted on 05/26/2013 12:53:25 PM PDT by microgood
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To: Gabz

I know it was because he smokes because the foul smell smelled like the bottom of a stale ashtray. A former smoker never forgets that smell. Yuck!


31 posted on 05/26/2013 12:59:07 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Again - totally subjective.

I guess it is all a mater of perspective, none of the former smokers I know have a problem with the smell, most, in fact rather enjoy it. And not a one of them has turned into an anti-smoker nanny statist.


32 posted on 05/26/2013 1:01:37 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: DogByte6RER
Amazing, that people knew in 1911 that cigarettes caused cancer, and that the cigarette companies were able to keep from admitting it until 1998!
33 posted on 05/26/2013 1:04:44 PM PDT by fredmann
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To: Stormdog

No I don’t think so because they would also include food in that, cars, electric scooters, soda, salt, styrofoam, food donated to the homeless, bicycles, taxis and the 20 billion other things he tried to ban/regulate.


34 posted on 05/26/2013 1:07:46 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Little Bill

I’m not dictating — just commenting. I wondered if this poor man had any friends, or family, in his life who would tell him how offensive his odor was. You could smell his body odor — (stale ashtray) — his mouth odor — (stale ashtray) — and his hair — (fresh smoke). As he plunked out $6 for a pack of cigs, I wondered how long they would last him. I’m quite sure that he’ll be hitting another store before evening for another pack because the odor was so strong.

I used to smoke myself, I’ve worked in offices with chain smokers, I’ve had family members who were heavy smokers, and I have employees who still smoke (outside). I have never smelled anybody so bad as this poor man. I have to say that hardly anybody around here smokes anymore, so this was startling.


35 posted on 05/26/2013 1:08:35 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Gabz

See #35. I don’t believe that anything I wrote would catagorize me as an anti-smoker nanny statist. This man just smelled BAD and it was a stale cigarette smell. I stood far away from him while I waited for him to conclude his purchase.

You seem overly sensitive about the topic. Even King James (of Bible fame) complained about the foul uses of tobacco brought back from the Colonies. He only began to tolerate it when it became a cash crop.


36 posted on 05/26/2013 1:18:14 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Gabz; afraidfortherepublic
Agree with you. As a non smoker I don't have any problem with the smell. However, I do have asthma now so I avoid smoking situations inside. However, that's MY PROBLEM so I don't tell others they can't smoke....I just move or avoid the situation. I hate people who decide to quit something and then tell others they must do the same. I know someone who's a recovering alcoholic and he's constantly telling everyone else that they shouldn't even have a glass of wine with dinner and that if they do so more that once in a great while that they have an alcohol problem....grrrr.
37 posted on 05/26/2013 1:19:09 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

As far as I can see it is not your problem it is his, if he considers it a problem then it is up to him to change his behavior not for you to dictate.

As I said before get a Nose Gay.


38 posted on 05/26/2013 1:26:05 PM PDT by Little Bill (A)
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To: Drango

Actually the so called “Smoking wars” (AKA War on freedom) are hardly over, I am seeing more and more people smoking these days.

Its nice to see people standing up to fascists and doing as THEY please and not as “Draino” and other minions of the police state say.


40 posted on 05/26/2013 1:30:46 PM PDT by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: dirtymac

You do understand that actually very few smokers get “ cancer, cardiac, etc” right? Don’t want to smell it? Buy a bubble and live in it, Oh and sell your car too, because I dont want to smell those fumes either.


41 posted on 05/26/2013 1:32:58 PM PDT by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Little Bill

No, when I (while recovering from knee surgery) have to back track from my place at the check out counter because the smell is so offensive, it becomes my problem.

http://www.smokersnews.net/king-james-i-and-tobacco/

Read about King James I. Personally, I don’t care. My concern was for this man’s lot in life. Although he was in work clothes, he didn’t look poor. He just smelled really bad. There are people on this board who cannot discuss anything rationally. They are overly sensitive. Are they all smokers?


42 posted on 05/26/2013 1:36:09 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Gabz

I know a few ex-smokers that think they are just so much better than those that chose to keep smoking, but I think it’s just a deep personality problem. Most of them are normal.


43 posted on 05/26/2013 1:36:11 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: fredmann

1911? Check out King James I’s attitude.

http://www.smokersnews.net/king-james-i-and-tobacco/

Amazingly modern, I’d say.


44 posted on 05/26/2013 1:40:16 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

This man smelled BAD to YOU - I have found that anyone who whines about it is, at heart, an anti-smoker and the ones who do whine/complain the most about the “bad” smell are all former smokers.

As to me being overly sensitive, you couldn’t be further from the truth - I have just learned that people with that type of attitude are the first to applaud when another smoking ban (aka attack on freedom) is put into effect. You mentioned employees who smoke outside, did you institute the no-smoking policy on your own, or did you wait for the nannies in government to do it for you?

Shortly after Delaware banned smoking in State buildings a woman walked into my building, which was clearly marked with signs it was a building of private businesses, thinking she was entering the Attorney General’s office. Instead of listening to my explanation of where the AGs office was, she went into a tirade about me smoking in a state building. No amount of explanation would appease her and I asked her to leave - she did and came back with a Capitol police officer demanding he give me a ticket. When she refused to pay attention to his explanation it was a private business and she needed to leave, he finally turned to me and asked if I wished to press charges for trespassing. I chose not to because I actually felt sorry for her. She was so adamant in her stance that she was blind too reality. That is how I see anti-smokers, they are so blinded by their zealotry they can not see reality.


45 posted on 05/26/2013 1:47:31 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
My Family were Round Heads.
46 posted on 05/26/2013 1:47:53 PM PDT by Little Bill (A)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Thank you


47 posted on 05/26/2013 1:48:49 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: eXe
I am seeing more and more people smoking these days.

Why on earth would you celebrate that? You realize that 90% of all new smokers are teenagers? Is your addiction so strong you wish it on others?

As to more people smoking...don't let the truth hit you in the rear.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/156833/one-five-adults-smoke-tied-time-low.aspx


48 posted on 05/26/2013 1:59:30 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Rusty0604

I’ve known those kind, I just don’t hang out with them, and as you say, most are normal.


49 posted on 05/26/2013 2:10:08 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Drango; eXe

OMG - you have got to be kidding?

Why would anyone in their right mind answer such a question? Look at the numbers and the dates - and don’t let the truth hit you in the rear.

You better plan on eating a late lunch or an early dinner in my favorite establishment if you wish to sit in the smoking permitted area. I feel sorry for the tourists who don’t realize making a reservation on the weekends is really a good idea - regardless of which side you prefer for dining.


50 posted on 05/26/2013 2:22:31 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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