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Iron in Egyptian relics came from space
Nature ^ | Wednesday, May 29, 2013 | Jo Marchant

Posted on 05/30/2013 8:32:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

A study in 1928 found that the iron in the beads had a high nickel content -- a signature of iron meteorites -- and led to the suggestion that it was of celestial origin. But scholars argued in the 1980s that accidental early smelting could have led to nickel-enriched iron, and a more recent analysis of oxidized material on the surface of the beads showed low nickel content...

To settle the argument, Diane Johnson, a meteorite scientist at the Open University in Milton Keynes, UK, and her colleagues used scanning electron microscopy and computed tomography to analyse one of the beads, which they borrowed from the Manchester Museum.

Microscopy showed that the nickel content of this original metal was high -- as much as 30% -- suggesting that it did indeed come from a meteorite. Backing up this result, the team observed that the metal had a distinctive crystalline structure called a Widmanstätten pattern. This structure is found only in iron meteorites that cooled extremely slowly inside their parent asteroids as the Solar System was forming.

Using tomography, the researchers built up a three-dimensional model of the bead's internal structure, revealing that the ancient Egyptians had made it by hammering a fragment of iron from the meteorite into a thin plate, then bending it into a tube.

The first evidence for iron smelting in ancient Egypt appears in the archaeological record in the sixth century bc. Only a handful of iron artefacts have been discovered in the region from before then: all come from high-status graves such as that of the pharaoh Tutankhamun.

(Excerpt) Read more at nature.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; egypt; godsgravesglyphs
The Gerzeh bead (top) has nickel-rich areas, coloured blue on a virtual model (bottom), that indicate a meteoritic origin. OPEN UNIV./UNIV. MANCHESTER

The Gerzeh bead (top) has nickel-rich areas, coloured blue on a virtual model (bottom), that indicate a meteoritic origin. OPEN UNIV./UNIV. MANCHESTER

1 posted on 05/30/2013 8:32:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: 75thOVI; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; ...
The first evidence for iron smelting in ancient Egypt appears in the archaeological record in the sixth century bc. Only a handful of iron artefacts have been discovered in the region from before then: all come from high-status graves such as that of the pharaoh Tutankhamun.
Heh. One of *those* topics.


2 posted on 05/30/2013 8:33:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SunkenCiv

BTTT.


3 posted on 05/30/2013 8:34:11 PM PDT by OddLane
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
So, would this new/old GGG ping message drive you to distraction? I'm just wondering, because it's been a while since an overhaul. I noticed yesterday that there's already a ping list with this starburst background (there's a website to generate these things).

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.





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4 posted on 05/30/2013 8:36:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SunkenCiv

All Iron,(and everything else)originally came from space, and still is.


5 posted on 05/30/2013 8:46:29 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afghanistan and Iraq))
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To: SunkenCiv

Umm.... Didn’t all Iron technically come from outer space?


6 posted on 05/30/2013 8:52:32 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: PeaceBeWithYou

News flash, Earth is in space, details at 11.


7 posted on 05/30/2013 8:52:48 PM PDT by stockpirate (F. Douglass, "A man's rights rest in three boxes: ballot box, jury box, and ammo box)
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To: SunkenCiv

Until iron could be made from iron ore, almost all iron metal on Earth was meteoric in origin, so this finding is not very surprising. In damp areas, it would not last very long, for obvious reasons. In drier areas (i.e., deserts), longer. It was probably MUCH rarer than gold, hence, very valuable.

Hard to believe, only 175 years ago, aluminum metal was worth more than gold.


8 posted on 05/30/2013 9:02:22 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: KoRn
Didn’t all Iron technically come from outer space?

I don't know about an iron, but I know that there is a vacuum in space.


9 posted on 05/30/2013 9:03:42 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: SunkenCiv

Interesting!


10 posted on 05/30/2013 9:08:07 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: SunkenCiv
From "Darwin's Ghost," a modern update on each and every chapter in Darwin's "Origin."

From the chapter titled "On the geographical Succcession of Organic Beings" (page 218) we have ...

"A trillion comets orbit the sun. The gravel that surrounds them appears, should it hit our atmosphere, as a shower of meteors. The Earth gains a ton in weight every hour from their dust. Two thousand asteroids big enough to destroy civilization orbit nearby."

11 posted on 05/30/2013 9:22:33 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: OldNavyVet

They drop in once in a while, too. :’)


13 posted on 05/31/2013 3:39:03 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: The Antiyuppie; PeaceBeWithYou; KoRn; BenLurkin

:’) There’s been quite a bit of denial in our history that the Earth gets struck from above, and there still is here and there. That’s as old as Aristotle, who declared that stones can’t fall from the sky. That said, the iron on Earth’s crust mostly belched up out of some volcano or other, I left the gist of the debate in the excerpt, there’s a little more at the original.


14 posted on 05/31/2013 3:44:15 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SunkenCiv
The new ping graphic doesn't bother me.

And, on topic:


15 posted on 05/31/2013 5:16:20 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: SunkenCiv

You doin good bro- this is my favorite feature on FR.


16 posted on 05/31/2013 5:46:44 AM PDT by ThanhPhero (Khach hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: Altariel

.... and in this case, he’s CORRECT!!!

...hahahahaha...


17 posted on 05/31/2013 7:01:20 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: SunkenCiv
That’s as old as Aristotle, who declared that stones can’t fall from the sky.

Aristotle was brilliant in his ethics, but ... (from Darwin's Ghost) "Copernicus and Galileo put an end to the idea that space could be measured in human terms."

18 posted on 05/31/2013 9:16:27 AM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: UCANSEE2

If that iron fell from space, that makes earth the ironing board, don’t it?


19 posted on 05/31/2013 11:55:58 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thor’s Hammer was said to come from the heavens, maybe the Vikings worked iron meteorites to create it and other iron weapons..


20 posted on 05/31/2013 12:07:56 PM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I am guessing that the iron dagger buried with Tutankhamun was a gift from the Hittites.


21 posted on 05/31/2013 12:35:26 PM PDT by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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To: SunkenCiv

That new/old GGG graphic reminds me of the new Star Trek movie for some crazy reason . . .


22 posted on 05/31/2013 1:44:45 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Altariel

I’ve been trying to work the Bab5 wannabee into the logo, but so far, bupkis. Where’s the graphics generator for him, anyway?


23 posted on 05/31/2013 4:06:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: colorado tanker; Dr. Sheldon Cooper

Not relevant, I just really enjoyed this:
"Live long and suck it, Zachary Quinto!" -- Dr Sheldon Cooper

24 posted on 05/31/2013 4:11:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: ThanhPhero; OldNavyVet; 2001convSVT

Thanks ThanhPhero, OldNavyVet, and 2001convSVT!

If I weren’t so blamed lazy, I’d hunt down the FR topic links about Tutankhamen’s meteoritic glass doodads.


25 posted on 05/31/2013 4:13:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Berosus

Thanks C. Imagine, a forgotten empire that revolved around hitting people and cruel childhood games. ;’) “Stop Hittite yourself! Stop Hittite yourself!”

.

http://www.varchive.org/ce/theses.htm (#114, #117, #118, #138, #149, #151, #156, #244, #280)

http://www.varchive.org/ce/shamir/diamonds.htm
http://www.varchive.org/ce/affidavit.htm
http://www.varchive.org/ce/ocean.htm
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http://www.varchive.org/bdb/study.htm


26 posted on 05/31/2013 4:25:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SunkenCiv

LOL!


27 posted on 05/31/2013 5:26:26 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

There are potential drawbacks to saying that to ZQ, but anyway...


28 posted on 05/31/2013 5:51:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SunkenCiv
So, would this new/old GGG ping message drive you to distraction?

No, I love it.
Thanks for all the pings Civ!

29 posted on 05/31/2013 6:30:36 PM PDT by fanfan ("If Muslim kids were asked to go to church on Sunday and take Holy Communion there would be war.")
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To: Grimmy
If that iron fell from space, that makes earth the ironing board, don’t it?

Or like your thick shag carpet after the iron falls from the ironing board.

30 posted on 05/31/2013 7:31:43 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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