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Kindergartener interrogated over cap gun until he pees his pants, then suspended 10 days
Daily Caller ^ | 5/31/2013 | Eric Owens

Posted on 05/31/2013 10:47:58 AM PDT by rktman

In the latest incident of anti-gun hysteria to erupt in a school setting, a kindergarten boy has been suspended from school for 10 days because he showed a friend his cowboy-style cap gun on the way to school.

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KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; absurbity; banglist; calvertcounty; childabuse; childguns; childhood; discipline; guncontrol; gunhysteria; huh; leftismoncampus; maryland; rkba; secondamendment; zerotolerance
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I guess we shouldn't give the radical left wing extremist demokkkrat scumbag socialists any ideas like, background checks for buying cap guns. (Shaking my head in wonder. So are Gene and Roy and Hoppie.)
1 posted on 05/31/2013 10:47:58 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

Shouldn’t kids have a Constitutional right to own a cap gun?


2 posted on 05/31/2013 10:49:29 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: rktman
no mens rea, the child was effectively tortured by the administration, the mom should file a child abuse complaint.
3 posted on 05/31/2013 10:51:26 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Unindicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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To: rktman

In my day, if a teacher caught me with a cap gun (or any other contraband), she would take it, place it insider her desk, and give it back at the end of the day. The worst that would happen was maybe missing out on recess.


4 posted on 05/31/2013 10:51:38 AM PDT by eaglescout1998
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To: rktman

When are people going to abandon the public schools en masse and either homeschool or private school their kids.


5 posted on 05/31/2013 10:52:04 AM PDT by she geek
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To: rktman

As for being a weapon, a cap gun is a club.
It can’t actually launch a projectile.
Whe idiot scaring the kid into wetting his pants needs to be enhanced interrogated until he to pees his pants.


6 posted on 05/31/2013 10:53:07 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Gun Control is the Key to totalitarianism and genocide.)
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To: Huskrrrr

Don’t you remember your civics classes? I seem to remember that the right to keep and bear arms only applies to those over 18. Cap guns included. My parents should have been jailed for all the toy guns I had. I mean look how I turned out. LOL!


7 posted on 05/31/2013 10:53:13 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST mr. president(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: BuffaloJack

wish it was my child...I’d beat the s%#$ outta that adult

twice


8 posted on 05/31/2013 10:54:27 AM PDT by advertising guy (golf in june in Phoenix ? it's so dry, our gators use Gold Bond)
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To: NonValueAdded

As long as government approved indoctrinators applied the questioning it’s all okay. “They” can do no wrong. Besides, it was for the kids. That’ll teach the little brat to “love” guns. On the other hand, he may get a lifetime membership to the NRA.


9 posted on 05/31/2013 10:55:55 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST mr. president(not that we'd get the truth!))
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10 posted on 05/31/2013 10:56:29 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: BuffaloJack

Dennis Praeger said this morning that if the “weapon” had been “loaded,” ie caps ready to be set off, then it would have been considered an explosive device and the cops would have been called.


11 posted on 05/31/2013 11:00:19 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: rktman
The Post explains that the principal — Jennifer L. Young, according to Dowell Elementary’s website — told the kindergartener’s mother that things would have been even worse had the toy gun been loaded with caps. In that case, the school would have regarded the plaything as an explosive and called the police.

So school officials are too dumb to handle a "loaded" cap gun.

What if they were presented with a real firearm in the school that was just doped by a would be shooter. I bet they would call the cops and hope he doesn't grab it and start shooting. The smart thing would be to take it and neutralize the threat or at least make it safe depending on the situation. I bet they don't know how to do either.

12 posted on 05/31/2013 11:00:58 AM PDT by matt04
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To: rktman

If this had happened to my child I would have slapped that biatch principal up side the head and taken my chances with a jury. This is just so stupid.


13 posted on 05/31/2013 11:01:04 AM PDT by Robwin
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To: SoCal Pubbie

See my #12.


14 posted on 05/31/2013 11:01:47 AM PDT by matt04
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To: rktman
When my daughter was questioned why she thought owning guns was a Constitutional right during a discussion in her High School civics class she gave and answer that was not to the liberal teachers liking.

The liberal teacher pressed her and said "If someone broke into your house would you shoot them in the head and feel good about it."

Her answer: No sir, because my Dad would be very angry at me because, you always aim for "center mass" and Double Tap.

Needless to say the liberal teacher was not amused, but I was very proud!

15 posted on 05/31/2013 11:02:16 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: rktman
The suspension will also be part of his permanent academic record.

Does anyone else find this totally hilarious?

Future employer: Well you had a 4.0 grade point but there is that Kindergarten cap gun incident.

Maybe its because I'm retiring from very good job and I look back on my childhood pranks and think this wouldn't even make my top 1000.

16 posted on 05/31/2013 11:02:49 AM PDT by Starstruck (Don't rest. We came close to the 2nd Amendment being field tested.)
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To: Robwin

This is local news for me. It was very embarrassing to listen to the report on radio.


17 posted on 05/31/2013 11:03:29 AM PDT by jimfree (In November 2016 my 12 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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To: rktman

Can you imagine what would have happened if a prisoner at Gitmo were interrogated till he peed his pants?


18 posted on 05/31/2013 11:05:26 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: she geek

“When are people going to abandon the public schools en masse and either homeschool or private school their kids.”

If you’re going to live the lifestyle we’ve decided we need; McMansion, two BMW 3 Series, dinner out 3 time a week, golf, tennis...etc. we can’t either home school or abandon the government babysitting service called schools. Also, most people, probably 90%, are not qualified to home school a dog. Private school is out of reach of that 90% also. Interestingly, an astonishing number of public school teachers and professionals send their kids to private school.


19 posted on 05/31/2013 11:06:56 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: rktman

My little boy (5 yrs) just finished pre-school yesterday...in his stuff was a Thank you card and some gifts from a parent who was here on a work visa from Japan. They have a beautiful, smart, and caring little girl that helped my son and has been a good friend over the last 2 yrs...my son has CP and is also very handsome, smart, and caring...one of the items in his bag was a water pistol - something that I and probably everyone else on this forum has had growing up - especially the last day of school - something to bring in and shoot everyone with water to celebrate another school year ending - all in good fun - and all those with common sense - can appreciate that.

What struck me was that, here is a mom, from Japan, exposing her child to out culture and sense of fun, that is going back to Japan in a few months because her husband’s position was for only 5 yrs here - but knew that it was a toy and not to be regarded as an insult or to show any type of irresponsibility...and the kids love stuff like that - because as a responsible parent - they are taught right from wrong in our house to both our kids...because every time this stupid left wing socialists crap comes up - we point it out so they know how to spot idiots as they grow up — and the examples are really getting too many to keep up with!


20 posted on 05/31/2013 11:07:40 AM PDT by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html - A real life experience book about the war in Iraq)
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To: musicman

I have a different view on this. I would like to see more of this exposed. I do not wish more children to be subjected to this type of treatment. I think it is outrageous.

But, the more the socialists let their mask slip, the easier a case is made for school choice. You will not win an argument with socialists, they must be defeated.

The more egregious their actions, the greater impetus for change.


21 posted on 05/31/2013 11:09:18 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: rktman

22 posted on 05/31/2013 11:10:20 AM PDT by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html - A real life experience book about the war in Iraq)
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To: rktman
. . . the principal . . . told the kindergartener’s mother that things would have been even worse had the toy gun been loaded with caps. In that case, the school would have regarded the plaything as an explosive and called the police.

That would be scary if the kid brought an arsenal of explosives, such as potassium perchlorate, sulfur and antimony sulfide or of red phosphorus and potassium chlorate. I think this principal would have wet her pants instead of doing that to a little kid.

23 posted on 05/31/2013 11:11:01 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: rktman

A nations where wimps, homosexualists and islamists are in charge.


24 posted on 05/31/2013 11:12:30 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: jimfree

My sympathy to you having to live in The Peoples’ Republic of Maryland. That principal should be tarred, feathered, and dumped in Southeast DC.


25 posted on 05/31/2013 11:13:08 AM PDT by tgusa (gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .......)
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To: rktman

This action is so vile. If my child were questioned like this, the people who did the questioning would be seeing me in court.
There is no authority to do this.
As the parent, the child would never go back.........


26 posted on 05/31/2013 11:14:03 AM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: rktman

Part of the solution is teaching children not to take this crap.

Even at that age, I was confrontational especially when I felt that the adults were treating me unfairly. Just teach your kids to just stop this childishness and tell the adults just punish him already, if that’s what they want to do, and “quit yapping, and I reserve all my legal rights.”

Then the real adults have to hold these people legally accountable.

I’m not a litigious guy, but the only thing these guys will understand is legal expenses, judgments, bankruptcy, etc.


27 posted on 05/31/2013 11:14:04 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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Allow the parents to interrogate the principal for hours on end, until the same outcome is reached


28 posted on 05/31/2013 11:15:10 AM PDT by bigbob
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this makes me so angry


29 posted on 05/31/2013 11:15:24 AM PDT by Sophia777
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To: eaglescout1998

“The worst that would happen was maybe missing out on recess.”

Deprived of my trusty Fanner-50 and greenie stickum caps I was defenseless when I participated in the daily schoolyard episode of Bonanza, Wyatt Earp, The Lone Ranger etc..


30 posted on 05/31/2013 11:15:51 AM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: Ted Grant

That is exactly what I taught my daughter when she was in public school. Clam up and tell them to call me....immediately. Let momma take care of it.....and boy did I a few times. A couple of them came close to wetting their pants.


31 posted on 05/31/2013 11:18:20 AM PDT by sheana
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To: NonValueAdded

absolutely- these creeps claim mostl ikely that the ‘gun traumatized kids’ with no proof that ANY kid was ‘traumatized’ by viewing hte cap gun- yet The creeps that enterogated the poor child actually DID TRAUMATIZE thsi child until he peed his pants? I truly hope his parents Sue hte crap out of that school!- Bankrupt it- I mean why not? They are morally bankrupt not to mention devoid ofcommon sense-

We NEED a judge to state ocne and for all that a cap gun, a toy gun, a lego gun, a bubble gun- ANY ‘gun’ that is NOT capable of shooting DEADLY projectiles is NOT a weapon- PERIOD! This zero tolorance crap is gettign way way otu of hand- They are truning kis into sissies- determinign what hte kids are ‘traumatized’ by and what they aren’t- then trurnign around and traumatizing the poor kids that just thought their toys were coll and wanted to shjare them with the other kids— Let kids be kids for cryign otuj loud-


32 posted on 05/31/2013 11:20:00 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Pollster1

School chemistry classes in my day could be characterized as explosives. A teacher one day blew a panel out of the ceiling in a demonstration to our class.

Also reminds me how one kid in our class used some magnesium ribbon or something from the chem lab, stuck it in the classroom door, lit it and melted the keylock inside so we couldn’t get in class after lunch.


33 posted on 05/31/2013 11:21:20 AM PDT by Zack Attack
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To: sheana

I’d be merciless. Sue them into bankruptcy. Devour their life savings with legal expenses. Don’t back off. I’d sue the school and the people individually.

Then again, I went to law school, so fighting these guys into poverty has special appeal to me.

For adults, I have always had similar legal advice if they are being bothered, leaned on, or otherwise harassed by law enforcement: offer your wrists for the cuffs and just say if you want to arrest me, do it. Otherwise, I’m leaving. Then don’t say a word.


34 posted on 05/31/2013 11:22:09 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: rktman

Meanwhile, government welcomes into the U.S. tens of thousands of Muslims, millions more entering illegally, while government provides these foreigners, immigrants and illegals, like the Boston bomb terrorist, hundreds of thousands worth of tax paid benefits..

But go after the little kids with the toy guns....

Spit*


35 posted on 05/31/2013 11:26:52 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: rktman

They are out of control. Now traumatizing children so they won’t grow up to tolerate guns and someday we’ll have a gun-free paradise. They are so divorced from reality it is frightening. Not to mention unaware of their own sadism.


36 posted on 05/31/2013 11:29:08 AM PDT by firebrand
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government schools doing this ridiculous bs

government IRS oppressing conservatives to rig an election

when will people realize government is the enemy and the problem as the democrat party is the enemy and the problem we have


37 posted on 05/31/2013 11:29:50 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: she geek
When are people going to abandon the public schools en masse and either homeschool or private school their kids.

Right before the fascists in Washington make attendance at a government sponsored indoctrination center compulsory.

Could be the trigger for CWII.

38 posted on 05/31/2013 11:31:09 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (For me, I plan to die standing as a free man rather than spend one second on my knees as a slave.)
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To: BuffaloJack

“It can’t actually launch a projectile.”

When I was a kid, we had these great cap guns that looked just like old Colt revolvers. There were “bullets” You had to open the cylinder, take out the “cartridge,” Pull out the “bullet,” and stick a round cap on them, and reassemble. You got 6 shots! Not a whole roll.
Well, the “bullets” had a hole in them, and I discovered that a BB fit into the hole perfectly! Instead of using one sticky cap, I’d use ten! It would fire the BB about a dozen feet, but with virtually no force behind it.
Those cap guns were cool because you had to optimize your shots, or you were shot, and ended up “dead” until the count of 50.


39 posted on 05/31/2013 11:32:04 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Democrat_media

Careful now. You don’t want to end up on “the list” do ya? LOL! Probably on there with me already.


40 posted on 05/31/2013 11:33:22 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST mr. president(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: rktman

I saw “Maryland” in the first paragraph and didn’t bother to read any more. Whoever did this needs his butt kicked, bad, and his boss, and his boss right up to the Governor. BTT


41 posted on 05/31/2013 11:34:17 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: NonValueAdded
no mens rea, the child was effectively tortured by the administration, the mom should file a child abuse complaint.

Exactly. All these incidents are the worst forms of child abuse.
42 posted on 05/31/2013 11:36:43 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: bigbob

The parents should hire a nasty faced lawyer and file a civil suit.


43 posted on 05/31/2013 11:37:31 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: rktman
School officials at Dowell Elementary School in the town of Lusby proceeded to question the five-year-old for over two hours before finally calling his mother,

First instinct...

Five minutes after retrieving kid-o...

.

44 posted on 05/31/2013 11:39:49 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: rktman

Hey Jennifer, come here any you can play with my gun. Don’t know if the hair trigger is ok tho. Whatever, but please play with my gun carefully. Don’t want it going off too soon or in the wrong place.


45 posted on 05/31/2013 11:41:04 AM PDT by Rannug ("God has given it to me, let him who touches it beware.")
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To: rktman

We are already on ‘the list’, and they can eat a bag of dicks. Toy guns indeed, what a bunch of limp-wristed pantywaste libtards. They just terrorized a child over a frickin’ TOY. Shameful and UN-American.


46 posted on 05/31/2013 11:42:36 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: Buckeye McFrog

CAIR would have a press conference. Keith Ellison would cry in front of Congress.


47 posted on 05/31/2013 11:48:41 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: rktman

I grew up in the 60s and 70s and cap guns were my favorite toy. We use to buy the rolls of caps and hit them with a hammer for a louder bang. Today we would have been arrested for terrorism and my parents put under IRS surveillance.


48 posted on 05/31/2013 11:57:13 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: eaglescout1998; All
In my day, if a teacher caught me with a cap gun (or any other contraband), she would take it, place it insider her desk, and give it back at the end of the day. The worst that would happen was maybe missing out on recess.

Same here. What we're seeing with this kindergartener is anti-2A indoctrination imo.

49 posted on 05/31/2013 11:58:42 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: rktman

Government school is child abuse.


50 posted on 05/31/2013 12:01:11 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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