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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 22 MAY 31, 2013
Free Republic | May 31, 2013 | greeneyes

Posted on 05/31/2013 12:45:59 PM PDT by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread ... there is no telling where it will go and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!


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Greetings from Missouri. We have a cloudy day at a nearly perfect 75 degrees for seed sprouting. I hope all the seeds planted so far take the hint.

We have had plenty of stormy weather, hot, cold, and mild temperatures. Fortunately so far, the worst of the lines have hit north and south of our little acre. Lettuce and Spinach has provided several salads this week. It's so great to just go out and pick the amount you need or want.

All the potatoes have been received and planted and are finally sprouting. Peanuts have survived the transplanting melons have not (sigh).

I had 4 tomatoes that were strong enough to transplant and I got those in. The larger green pepper plants are transplanted. I still have several of both in sprouting trays that don't appear too healthy, so I may just redo those in a pot outdoors and see where it goes from there.

I am moving slowly this year, so I still have about half of my raised beds left to plant or transplant depending on the crop. Course I am just growing stuff for trial eating and seed saving. Hubby is growing all the heavy duty stuff for harvest and preserving.

I have 14 beds. All except one are 3x4 feet. One is just 2x4 ft. I had hoped to get them all done sometime in May.

gorush has advised that he will be posting his chicken tractor and bird pictures.

jjr153 can't post early but would like to know if anyone can think of red white and blue flowers all of one species that he can plant to make a flag 13x25 feet. Stripes would be 1" wide. I was one of these in a magazine a few years back, but can't remember the name of the magazine, nor the flowers used.

Praying for all the people impacted by tornadoes and storms. Have a great week end. Stay safe, and God Bless.

1 posted on 05/31/2013 12:45:59 PM PDT by greeneyes
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To: greeneyes
Hope you don't mind me reposting my tree pics. Hope someone knows what it is. I looked up orange mock and it doesn't appear to match.

It's also about 12-15 feet tall. I might have a few more pics I can upload in a bit.

2 posted on 05/31/2013 12:49:44 PM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: CJ Wolf

I don’t know what it is but it sure is pretty!


3 posted on 05/31/2013 12:50:59 PM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know the Truth, and the Truth Shall Set You Free...John 8:32)
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To: CJ Wolf

It sure looks like some sort of fruit tree. Does it form ‘fruits’ after the blossoms fade?


4 posted on 05/31/2013 12:51:43 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: greeneyes

It kinda looks like my wife’s transfer back to Merdian, Ms is a go. Wal- Mart has listed her job position here as open for application and the position she applied for in Ms is closed. We went to Mississippi this past weekend, moving as much as we could in our little trailer and my lawn mower back to our home. We are back in Texas now. My wife is off for the next few days and in a packing up mode. I have re-potted the tomato starts I bought to plant in my raised bed here in Texas. I hope I can get them in the ground in Mississippi before they decide to die!


5 posted on 05/31/2013 1:01:44 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: greeneyes; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; ...

Pinging the list.


6 posted on 05/31/2013 1:06:56 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

So glad for you that you don’t have to try to maintain 2 places, and can maybe do a little more gardening. Best of luck with the tomatoes.LOL


7 posted on 05/31/2013 1:10:02 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: CJ Wolf

It’s so pretty. Hope we can figure it out.


8 posted on 05/31/2013 1:10:35 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Yay.

How have your fig trees managed in your absence?


9 posted on 05/31/2013 1:16:28 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: greeneyes; Marcella
It's hot here. 92F. I want the cool weather back.

I started the first batch of mushrooms this week, and I'll see how that goes. At least I've got the temp correct for growing them. They are in a box sitting in front of the window unit AC, and a nice even 68F.

I've been hand killing horned tobacco worms this week. I got 4 this morning. But mostly, my tobacco is doing well, if missing a few leaves.

This is the same plant that I posted a picture of a few weeks ago. The board at the bottom is still 3 ft long with marks at 1ft.

/johnny

10 posted on 05/31/2013 1:17:18 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: CJ Wolf

CJ Wolf ~:” Hope you don’t mind me reposting my tree pics. Hope someone knows what it is. I looked up orange mock and it doesn’t appear to match. “

Send a picture of a typical leaf
(Makes a positive identification easier)


11 posted on 05/31/2013 1:17:42 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ("Do not fear the enemy, for they can take only your life. Fear the media, for they will destroy you)
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To: greeneyes

Dug the taters on Monday I got about 20# great!!

How many should I keep for fall potatoes and when do I plant those down here in South TX?

All the onions are pulled as well they did great this year!

I planted my ‘maters too close together this year but they are still doing great have picked about 6 good red ones and the bushes are full... mostly celebrity and big boys.

14 stalks of corn and the silk is getting brown.. fresh corn soon.

OK the crookneck squash... it has done very poor this year...good mounds, watered, fertilized and not much fruit. Not sure what I did wrong with it.

and the Okra is going very slow this year as well starting to get concerned with it.

wish I had a host site I would post some pics.


12 posted on 05/31/2013 1:18:46 PM PDT by Rightly Biased (Avenge me Girls AVENEGE ME!!!! ( I don't have any son's))
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To: greeneyes

I have been enjoying the pretty pansies. They are still in full bloom because it has been a cooler than normal spring. Temperatures are heating up so the pansies will fade out. It is near 90 degrees or above right now. No rain until Monday. That is a good thing as needed to dry out from the last rounds of rain.


13 posted on 05/31/2013 1:21:42 PM PDT by tob2
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To: greeneyes

We have a new neighbor who moved in next door. Retired Navy (30 years) wonderful happy and helpful guy. He is from New York but loves Meridian. And has two beautiful young German Shepherds. He plans to mate them. Maybe my wife and I can get one of the pups. I so need a dog to help around the garden.


14 posted on 05/31/2013 1:21:48 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: greeneyes

Best I can tell we have had nearly 5 inches of rain in the past 24 hours. I hear thunder off in the distance as I type. Garden is a bog and I had streams across the back and in the front of the property this am. Garden is wet.


15 posted on 05/31/2013 1:25:07 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: greeneyes

We’ve had nice weather in Central Missouri this week, if you’re a duck or a fish or a gator. Not so nice otherwise. Localized flooding has been quite bad and it looks like the big river is headed out of its banks real soon now. 4.3” in my rain gauge this morning and it was still dumping.

But, I was having to water the garden at this time last year so I suppose I shouldn’t be bellyaching about it too much.


16 posted on 05/31/2013 1:25:43 PM PDT by Augie
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To: Black Agnes

They are growing and healthy. A few first growth figs on them now (breba).


17 posted on 05/31/2013 1:26:34 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Rightly Biased
Try postimage.org. It works for me.

/johnny

18 posted on 05/31/2013 1:28:39 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: CJ Wolf

Carolina Silverbell ?


19 posted on 05/31/2013 1:28:45 PM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: JRandomFreeper

ok I will try it...

can’t hurt...
maybe.


20 posted on 05/31/2013 1:32:07 PM PDT by Rightly Biased (Avenge me Girls AVENEGE ME!!!! ( I don't have any son's))
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To: Red_Devil 232

I ordered a couple dwarf fig trees this year. We’ll see how they manage. Hopefully I won’t have to babysit them during a 2m 100+ spell like we had a couple years ago. Let’s cross our fingers, shall we?


21 posted on 05/31/2013 1:33:18 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: JRandomFreeper

Wow. That one plant would occupy all of one of my little garden beds.


22 posted on 05/31/2013 1:33:42 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: CJ Wolf

Nice!


23 posted on 05/31/2013 1:35:21 PM PDT by South40
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To: greeneyes
I've already pruned several leaves off the bottom and will probably prune a couple of more. It's probably got another 2 or 3 ft vertical growth to go.

It's going to be my big one this year.

/johnny

24 posted on 05/31/2013 1:39:52 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: tob2

We are staying pretty muddy here too. Still haven’t been able to take delivery on the dirt to go under our swimming poot we bought last year.

Fortunately most of my beds are mels mix, so it doesn’t get water logged and quickly let’s me have a go at working the soil.


25 posted on 05/31/2013 1:40:15 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Right LOL. I hear those dogs are really great at digging holes, and rolling around the plants.LOL


26 posted on 05/31/2013 1:41:51 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Just mythoughts

When it rains it pours - doesn’t it?


27 posted on 05/31/2013 1:42:37 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
I don't have much but I do have some color.


28 posted on 05/31/2013 1:44:49 PM PDT by South40
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To: Augie

But, I was having to water the garden at this time last year so I suppose I shouldn’t be bellyaching about it too much

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LOL. Just what I was thinking this morning. Last year at this time we had a great garden, but the rain barrels were almost empty. A few weeks later, we decided to let most of it go and burn up. We had to haul water for the perennials and dwarf orchard.


29 posted on 05/31/2013 1:45:12 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Big might just be a little understated.LOL


30 posted on 05/31/2013 1:46:24 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
When it rains it pours - doesn’t it?

After last year I am not complaining. But yes, it was surreal to watch. My empty cistern is now filled and overflowing. There was at least 5 inches of water standing for a time that would not fit.

31 posted on 05/31/2013 1:48:09 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: South40

Very eye appealing. I have had little time to devote to my flower beds so they do not compare.


32 posted on 05/31/2013 1:49:35 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

It’s enough to keep the birds, bees and butterflies in the yard.


33 posted on 05/31/2013 1:53:59 PM PDT by South40
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To: South40

That’s so pretty. Thanks for sharing.


34 posted on 05/31/2013 1:56:47 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: South40
It’s enough to keep the birds, bees and butterflies in the yard.

And very pleasant to the human eye. The reason I have several flower beds. I love the beauty in the color presented through flowers. But for me this spring Missouri weather has directed my labor in different areas. I always love to see flower beds with lots of color and display of types of foliage. You did good. And yes, God's creatures do benefit as well.

35 posted on 05/31/2013 1:59:37 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

I think we are ahead of the curve for rain this year. The extended drought had me worried especially for the states like Texas. Hoping they make some headway too.


36 posted on 05/31/2013 1:59:58 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes; rightly_dividing; JRandomFreeper

Hot, sweat running into my eyes, pulling up weeds in the Riverwalk of my garden so the dirt can go into composter, hot, miserable, carry tree limbs from trees hanging over back wall of garden, I hated this day, yesterday Thursday, of cleaning up the garden to prepare for container garden. After son and I worked out there, went straight to the shower to wash my sweaty hair and wash sweat off me.

This is all your fault for having this thread so I would feel guilty that I didn’t know how to grow food plants. All your fault, all your fault, all your fault. There, that makes me feel better that IT’S ALL YOUR FAULT.

Son put the composter together and it’s so big I didn’t think it would fit where it needed to go – but it did. I couldn’t have put it together by myself. Then, we had to clean up all the leaves and dump them in composter. I explained to son how I was changing the garden from dead roses to food. I had ripe tomatoes to prove it. We worked until we were filthy and I hated every minute of it. It helped for him not to have to bag up the leaves and take them to a dumpster.

My Riverwalk (named it for the Riverwalk in San Antonio) is a path of bricks running through at the base of the dirt garden and base of the raised deck. Water comes through a hole on the right side, which is coming through from townhomes to the right of me. The water runs through the brick Riverwalk and out a hole on the left side. This water must drain and the Riverwalk of brick was filled with leaves and dirt and weeds that had gathered there since 2011. If we get a hurricane, that Riverwalk must handle gobs of water going through and if it is hindered, the water will build up and could come in my house. The Riverwalk is now ready for a hurricane that I hope won’t happen.

Why didn’t one of you tell me squash plants are giant plants? There are three planted in dirt and they now look like something from Mars zapped by radiation to monster size. Pretty soon, I’ll see the sexual parts of those plants. They should be rated “X” for sexual content.

The Kentucky Wonder bean plants are growing up the lattice covered back wall. Look, I didn’t fertilize the ground dirt so I don’t know if these bean plants will make beans. After all, they were seeds and I figured they wouldn’t grow, period. One of the Miracle Gro bags has what I think is sweet pepper plants growing and the other has Jalapeno plants maybe. Remember I wrote on the bags and rain washed it off. I do have plastic markers to use next time so I’ll know what is growing in each fabric growing bag.

The wood floor of the large upper deck is black from whatever gets on wood after time in the elements. Son will be back on June 16. I wonder if Lowes rents power washers? That would get the black crap off that wood floor. Do any of you know about renting power washers? I can call Lowes to find out.

I’ve got some grow bags now to fill with potting soil mix and seeds and set them on the dirt in the garden and now have the bird nets to cover them (squirrels and birds you can go to hell), there are the two large containers for big stuff like tomatoes and root plants like potatoes to put on the deck and I have a bird net for those.

Earlier, I bought bags of Miracle Gro potting soil mix to fill all the containers. I had to pay more because I had to get smaller bags I could carry. All those bags are on the lower deck that has a roof over it. When I step out the sliding glass door, I on the lower deck with the roof. Next Monday, I’ll start planting and send Johnny some sesame seed flower plant seed. I’m waiting until Monday so I can rest up after yesterday’s marathon work/sweat/move/muscle hurt session. And, don’t forget, IT’S YOUR FAULT.

My son is an award winning documentary film director (look him up on the net, “Wayne Derrick documentary film director”) and one company he works with (he’s an independent film director), has a special deal some of you might want to get. For $15,000 you can have dinner with him in the states. In England, it costs you $20,000 to have dinner with him. Or, you could come to my house when he is here, and have dinner with him free.

Last year he was in the states making the film for American audiences, “Heroes Behind the Badge” which documents the deaths of police officers. He is making “Heroes Behind the Badge II” now which documents police officers who were wounded and now live with the disabilities created by those wounds. He is exceptional and does whatever work he needs to do in my garden and has fun doing it.


37 posted on 05/31/2013 2:00:22 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Marcella

LOL, I stopped with the garden is wet.


38 posted on 05/31/2013 2:02:34 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: greeneyes

Thank you. And you’re welcome.


39 posted on 05/31/2013 2:04:58 PM PDT by South40
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To: Just mythoughts

Thanks! We enjoy the fauna as much as we do the flora. We have a fish pond which acts as the neighborhood watering hole. So we get just about everything around her at night.


40 posted on 05/31/2013 2:07:01 PM PDT by South40
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To: Marcella
I would feel guilty if it wasn't quite so darn funny.

BTW, Squash plants get large. Some of mine have taken up to 9 sq ft of space. But they are pretty, aren't they?

/johnny

41 posted on 05/31/2013 2:09:22 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes
I think we are ahead of the curve for rain this year. The extended drought had me worried especially for the states like Texas. Hoping they make some headway too.

I have seen that parts of Texas is getting rain, but as to whether or not their drought has been (state wide) lessened like ours I do not know. I have had my head down so much this spring I have had little time to learn what is happening around me.

I am curious to learn IF the plan for well drilling across MO will be curtailed given our snow and rain fall this past winter/spring.

42 posted on 05/31/2013 2:15:28 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Marcella

Ok. I’ll take the blame as long as you give me some credit everytime you eat or preserve one of your homegrown feasts.

I don’t remember you asking me or anyone else about the size of squash plants. So I didn’t tell you, cause I didn’t think about it, cause I don’t grow squash. Next time just ask.LOL

I am so glad your son is there to help you. I was worrying that you might do too much. Some of my best memories are working in the garden with granny and the yard with my parents. Just remember Rome wasn’t built in a day, and the second year is easier.

I would like to see those movies you son has made. Is the first one available on DVD? Where and when can we see the second?


43 posted on 05/31/2013 2:17:19 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
Does anyone need kittens? We have 7 new ones (3 separate litters) that seem to have gravitated to my place. 3 are 6 weeks old, 3 are 4 weeks old, and one is 3 weeks old.

They are great potential mousers, will keep rodents out of your grains and gardens, will warm our feet on cold nights, and warm the hearts of grumpy old guys ;)

44 posted on 05/31/2013 2:18:25 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: Just mythoughts

I am not sure. If your well runs dry, then you need to dig a new one that is deeper. At the end of the day, you can dig all the wells you want to no avail, if the water table were to run dry-is that even possible?

As the water table gets less and less the wells have to get deeper and deeper. I know we won’t be digging any well unless we have to.


45 posted on 05/31/2013 2:23:22 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Sarajevo

No thanks. I love kittens, but they grow up to be cats. I can’t stand a cat indoors, rubbing around my ankles and purring, and tripping me, and we can’t really have one for outdoors. It has never ended well for the cats in this neighborhood.


46 posted on 05/31/2013 2:27:28 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: South40
Thanks! We enjoy the fauna as much as we do the flora. We have a fish pond which acts as the neighborhood watering hole. So we get just about everything around her at night.

You are most welcome. I love the flowers. I have a pond, and a big willow tree at the edge, along with some cattails that I cannot control. It is my jungle that I really have no control over. The geese and ducks do take a dive in their annual trips north to south, and south to north, and the red-wing black birds use the cattails to nest. Frogs galore in the spring singing like a choir to announce spring is here.

I have quite a cadre of critters that cross my little plot. This morning after the deluge ended I spotted a couple of deer feeding. Then my daughter's Papillon decided to have a show down with a huge snapping turtle that decided to cross the yard. Ever so often I have a long red tailed fox that crosses the property, I encourage him/her to pee on his/her way through so I do not have to purchase mole repellent that contains fox urine.

Never a dull moment.

47 posted on 05/31/2013 2:29:53 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Marcella

Marcella—thats some of the happiest, funniest productive complaining posted right here on the good old Garden Thread. Where else can we share/compare all things gardening and get free education and laughs to boot.


48 posted on 05/31/2013 2:40:34 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: greeneyes; All

I happened to see a Mother Earth Magazine in the garden section at Walmart, and decided to buy one. It had some interesting articles.

One article that I found interesting was entitiled the best staple crops for building self sufficiency. It has a break down of each region in the US.

My region for the Central/Midwest:

Cabbage: King Cole, Premium Late Flat Dutch

Collards: Champion, Georgia

Dry Beans: Black Turtle, Red Kidney

Grain Corn: Bloody Butcher, Floriani Red Flint, Hickory King

Kale: Beedy’s Camden, Even Star Smooth

Peanuts: Carolina Black, Tn Red Valencia

Potatoes: Butte, Katahdin

Sweet Potatoes: Beauregard, Jewel

Wheat: Marquis, Turkey Red

Winter squash: Sibley, Waltham Butternut

If anyone is curious what they have listed for your area, Just let me know.


49 posted on 05/31/2013 2:47:00 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Just mythoughts
Sounds interesting,. Thanks for sharing.

We're in a remote area at the end of a 2.5 mile dirt road so we have lots of critters. We have lots of rabbits which, after generation after generation know we humans pose no threat. They do, however, attract other predators like foxes, coyotes, bobcats, and in my 30+ years here I have seen one mountain lion, but that was back in 1994. The raccoons are a problem as we can't keep fish in the pond. Skunks and opossums abound; we leave them alone and they likewise. We've had a few gophers that I managed to control but we do have pack rats and more than our share of mice. So snakes can be common including western diamondbacks and speckled rattlers. But we control the snake population with cats; I believe we currently have about 9 though it fluctuates and at times can be as many as 2 dozen. We don't feed them and they are not pets. They earn their living eating the rats and mice. And as long as the rodent population is under control so goes the snakes. Some cats get taken by coyotes and owls but they seem to be pretty adept at self-preservation. We're seldom bored. :-)

50 posted on 05/31/2013 2:47:36 PM PDT by South40
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