Skip to comments.Too Much Deer Pee Changing Northern Forests
Posted on 06/06/2013 8:06:43 AM PDT by goodwithagun
The booming deer population in the northern United States is bad for the animal's beloved hemlocks, a new study finds. During Michigan winters, white-tailed deer converge on stands of young hemlocks for protection from winter chill and predators. The same deer return every year to their favorite clumps of the bushy evergreens, called deeryards. The high concentration of deer in a small space saturates the soils with nitrogen from pee, according to a study published online in the journal Ecology. While deer pee can be a valuable source of nitrogen, a rare and necessary nutrient for plants, some deeryards are now too rich for the hemlocks to grow.
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I got a puppy about four months ago. There’s been a lot of rain lately, and the spots where he always pees are lush, bright green, while the rest of my yard is a pale color.
Maybe they can put up some porta potties in the forest and pay some of the new graduates of the University of San Francisco to give classes to deer on using these porta potties.
Trust me, Michigan deer don’t need or care about the hemlocks.
BUSH’s FAULT! (Just got this straight from our CasaBlanca!)
you should follow him around with a cup and save it, then use a garden sprayer to spread it around evenly.
And if you do, please take photos and post them here.
Photos of the yard afterwards, or photos of me following him around collecting his pee?
Put up "Pee Here"...where you want them to go.
History teaches us that these signs work. :-)
Nothing grows where Bambi goes.
At least we are not trying to teach them how to wash their genitals like we are in Africa.
I heard a guy tell a story once - wanted to grow beans, so he planted them and put in wooden stakes for them to grow up. Somehow he got a bunch of elephant manure so on a hunch he put some on his bean field.
Killed the beans but the stakes sprouted and evenually grew into 40 foot trees.
Or too many restrictions on harvesting the deer.
It was only $800,000
I’m tired of the ticks. The pee I don’t give a __ about
Out here on the left coast, deer pee seems to kill anything that is green or tries to grow.
A couple of years ago, we finally got permission to put a deer fence around our back yard to keep them from eating our roses, tomatoes, and other plants.
The first year our yard guy and I had to spray to weed killer on the ground around the outside perimeter of our deer fence.
The deer hang around that area coveting our plants protected by our fence, they can’t get to. So they pee and defecate several feet outside of the fence and around it.
Nothing is growing there. So any fire hazard due to plant growth outside the fence has been eliminated.
The trees die. The earth heats. The globe warms. The environment collapses. Everybody dies.
When I was a kid and my room was in the basement, I’d step outside by the back door in the dark and take a leak before going to bed. The grass was dead and yellow in this spot. So it is true. Government intervention is needed to stop outdoor peeing and the concomitant environmental catastrophe.
And, apparently, it's up to us to stop it.
Don’t encourage them.
Ticks, same problem here in NH. I never heard so much about Lyme disease 25 years ago. What happened?
They do realize there’s a solution for this on the books already, right?
It’s called deer season. Just increase the limit.
At this point, what difference does it make?
What’s going on? Is mother nature on vacation or what?
Hemlock grows NATURALLY, deer NATURALLY congregate in the hemlock groves, deer NATURALLY pee where they congregate, pee is NATURALLY rich in nitrogen, too much nitrogen NATURALLY kills the hemlock...
So NATURALLY I have to ask: What’s the problem here?
I pee all over my yard at night. I deliberately pee around the garden as a bunny deterrent.
But, but, but... deer pee is organic < /enviroidiot>
I pee all over my yard at night. I deliberately pee around the garden as a bunny deterrent....When I pee in my yard, it pi*ses off Hugh Heffener, ‘cause all the bunnies sit in my hot tub.
Ban all deer!
The animals that prey on deer have been unnaturally removed.
I had a yellow lab, big guy, who pee'd in mostly the same place in my yard. It turned yellow and died. Had he spread the wealth, I'd bet our lawn would have been fine, but he spent all his efforts in one area and killed it.
I have a problem with my dog peeing and killing the grass in her fenced in area. Does anyone have any recommendations to fix this?
Guess we need to increase the bag limit ...
“...we finally got permission to put a deer fence around our back yard...”
You should move to America where we can put a fence around our yard if we want to or need to. No permission asked for or needed.
So, as I understand it, this is self correcting. Too many deer = too much deer pee = dead plants that deer eat = starving reduced deer population = less deer pee = more plants that deer eat = more deer. Cycle of life, isn’t it?
What is the EUROpeein’ solution to this problem?
And I was going to post that I probably won’t expect to see any hemlocks when I visit Zero’s grave. According to your theory I might after enough time.
So when will the government begin selling Pee credits?
See post #38
I’d still watch where I step, though.
Without predation to modulate populations, carrying capacity can be exceeded. It’s conceivable that overgrazing can be so severe that plant populations have difficulty recovering and you have a crash. St. Matthews reindeer is a common example from basic ecology; compare that to the moose/wolf dynamic on Isle Royale.
Venison on the table would solve much of this problem.
Good idea...I already have a bag in the shed...thanks...
His name didn’t happen to be Jack, did it?
I pee all over my yard at night in a helter skelter pattern. I even pee on it in winter but then I spell Mexican names and people think the neighbors did it....