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Baby names reveal parents' political ideology
Fox ^ | 6/7/13 | Stephanie Pappas

Posted on 06/07/2013 4:13:47 PM PDT by workerbee

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The sounds of liberal and conservative names varied, too. For both boys and girls, liberals tended to pick more feminine-sounding choices, such as Liam, Ely and Leila names that include lots of L sounds and soft-A endings, including popular choices Ella and Sophia.

Conservatives, on the other hand, tend to pick names with more masculine-sounding Ks, Bs, Ds and Ts, such as Kurt. A couple of famous national political families demonstrate that pattern, Oliver said: The liberal Obamas named their daughters Sasha and Malia, both names heavy on As and Ls, whereas the conservative Palin family picked more masculine-sounding names for both their boys and girls, particularly Track, Trig, Bristol and Piper (although third daughter Willow got a softer-sounding moniker).

The findings of an ideological split mostly among the well-educated are no surprise, Oliver said, as only about 20 percent of the American public holds strong political principles, and those people tend to be college educated. In that group, he said, the data suggest that liberals are looking to distinguish themselves for their culture and education by choosing esoteric names. Conservatives, on the other hand, seem to pick traditional names that will distinguish their kids as economically successful.

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As I've always had a fascination with names and naming trends, I found this article quite interesting.
1 posted on 06/07/2013 4:13:48 PM PDT by workerbee
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To: workerbee

Hmmm. I have a Roman and an Evelyn, and we’re searching for a name for baby girl #2. I’m leaning toward Cecelia or Sylvia, but my husband likes neither. Apparently my first two have conservatives names but the names I like for my unborn are liberal!


2 posted on 06/07/2013 4:17:58 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: workerbee
The liberal Obamas named their daughters Sasha and Malia

I don't like the name "Sasha" for a girl--in Russia, it's a boys name, the counterpart of "Alex" in English. However, I do like the name Malia.


3 posted on 06/07/2013 4:21:21 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: goodwithagun

>>Apparently my first two have conservatives names but the names I like for my unborn are liberal!<<

“Sarah” is good. I have always liked “Tory.” Maybe “FMCDH” (FemCadish)?


4 posted on 06/07/2013 4:22:41 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (To attempt to have intercourse with a hornet's nest is a very bad idea)
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To: goodwithagun

Cecelia is lovely.


5 posted on 06/07/2013 4:25:17 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: workerbee

Frank Zappa, who considers himself a conservative, named his kids Dweezil and Moon Unit. Discuss.


6 posted on 06/07/2013 4:25:56 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: goodwithagun
As I grow older, I find I am liking the old names. Ezekiel and other Biblical names, like Mary, are just grand.

I also like old-fashioned Southern names, like Bess and, yes Rhett.

I also like Alice and Max. And Christie.

7 posted on 06/07/2013 4:28:15 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: al_c

Well, he did stick to the hard consonants.


8 posted on 06/07/2013 4:36:23 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: goodwithagun
I have a Roman and an Evelyn

I assume Roman is a boy and Evelyn is a girl, although in England, Evelyn is a boy's name.

9 posted on 06/07/2013 4:36:51 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: workerbee

The main difference seems to be in the vocal stops vs. aspirants and other “soft” consonants. Stops include the sounds P, B, T, D, CH, J, and K (or C depending on how it’s pronounced). Aspirants are F, V, S, Z, Th, and Sh, and the soft consonants L, R, W, and Y. Vowels shouldn’t matter since they’re required in both cases. I’m not sure where the nazals M, N, and Ng fit. It seems like that to me, anyway.


10 posted on 06/07/2013 4:37:10 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: workerbee

It’s BS.

I myself was named after my father, and I know why he was named-—for a priest at my grandmothers parish.


11 posted on 06/07/2013 4:37:29 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Fiji Hill

I don’t think Evelyn has been fashionable as a male name for the past century.


12 posted on 06/07/2013 4:42:52 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Venturer

Of course there will be individual cases, but as a trend, I think this article is spot on. Your name history follows a conservative pattern, but there are few parents today (of either political persuasion) who would repeat it.


13 posted on 06/07/2013 4:46:35 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Fiji Hill
I have mixed feelings about "Roman" as a first name. In the 1970's and 1980's, there was a guy named Roman (pronounced "ro-MAHN") who was organizing collegiate Republicans in the LA area to support liberal causes. Young Americans for Freedom (YAF) alumni from Southern California will remember him--and not too fondly.

On the other hand, I was a big fan of Los Angeles Rams quarterback Roman Gabriel.

14 posted on 06/07/2013 4:47:07 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: Fiji Hill

I hear the odd Russian name now and again. Nikita always gets me. On the one hand, sultry assassin. On the other, grumpy Soviet premier.


15 posted on 06/07/2013 4:51:25 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Fiji Hill
Notably, the kinds of uncommon names chosen by upper-class liberals differed from the unusual names picked by people of lower socioeconomic status, Oliver said. Lower-status moms tend to invent names or pick unusual spellings of common names (Andruw instead of Andrew, for example).

A nod to Antwaan and D'Queshiaya.

16 posted on 06/07/2013 4:54:08 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Fiji Hill
I think Roman is a cool name. Not common at all.

I have a very common first name, and it always made me crazy that I would have 3 or 4 kids in my class with the same.

So when my son was born, I made sure to look at the top 100 names for that year, but not use any of them. And his name is distinct, masculine, and no argument on how it's pronounced.

17 posted on 06/07/2013 4:57:08 PM PDT by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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To: workerbee

yep, what about the unusual names used by black people nowadays?

It’s probably politically incorrect to make any observations of such names. we can talk about liberal/conservative splits on names, but never say anything about the made up names used by black parents in recent years.


18 posted on 06/07/2013 5:00:06 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Viennacon
Nikita DOES remind me of some sultry russian. I hardly ever think of that bald little elf, Kruschev.

Let me see if I can ruin "Leonid" for you:


19 posted on 06/07/2013 5:03:31 PM PDT by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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To: boop

Thanks for that, you just ruined my coming weekend.


20 posted on 06/07/2013 5:04:19 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: workerbee

how does ‘Malia’ translate into Spanish?


21 posted on 06/07/2013 5:08:14 PM PDT by RockyTx
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To: boop

Reminds me of Barbra Streisand.


22 posted on 06/07/2013 5:13:06 PM PDT by RetroSexual
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To: workerbee

I was born to two very liberal parents in the sixties. They wanted to give me an obscure name so they picked Jason.

That didn’t work out as planned...

When I was in kindergarten and first grade, I remember people saying “what was that name again? Did you say Justin? Could spell it?”

By the time I was in seventh grade, I never had that problem again. I decided I liked having a common name.

I gave my son a common name that people would know and could spell. My son is not my possession. It’s not right to use him to prove that I’m arty or sophisticated or whatever.


23 posted on 06/07/2013 5:13:20 PM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: al_c

there was also Diva Muffin

Moon apparently wasn’t scarred. She named her child Mathilda Plum Doucette. Not bizarre like her name but still a tad off the beaten path


24 posted on 06/07/2013 5:16:01 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: goodwithagun
If I ever have a daughter, I like the name Shiloh quite a bit.

For boys names I like Rhett and Silas.

25 posted on 06/07/2013 5:17:45 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: Our man in washington

My parents did the name thing with very common names (for me and my seven siblings). I find myself wishing I had a more uncommon name. You can only hear “Joe” so many times before it gets bland.


26 posted on 06/07/2013 5:20:10 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: al_c
Frank Zappa, who considers himself a conservative, named his kids Dweezil and Moon Unit. Discuss.

He considers nothing.

27 posted on 06/07/2013 5:21:24 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Good point. I hadn’t considered that perspective.


28 posted on 06/07/2013 5:27:34 PM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: workerbee

I’ve always favored names that don’t sound weird or non gender appropriate and avoided any that would lend my children to potential ridicule. I’ve never been fan of split masculine/feminine names like GeorgeAnn either.

I have a Johnathan, Ryan, Jason, Mason, Jackson and a Kathryn who is my oldest.

The middle names I was a bit more flexible with but I still wanted to make sure they flowed with and fit well with the name.

Life is challenging enough without having a weird name and I strongly believe names are a building block affecting how one sees themselves. I also avoided having a son named after me. I wanted all my kids to see themselves as unique.


29 posted on 06/07/2013 5:28:05 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: workerbee

The Afro-name-generator kicks out a lot of liberal names.


30 posted on 06/07/2013 5:29:34 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: workerbee

I have a 52 yo daughter named Kenya. How could I have known............


31 posted on 06/07/2013 5:30:42 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (")
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To: freedumb2003
“Sarah” is good.

It says "feminine, with a hint of badass"


32 posted on 06/07/2013 5:32:52 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the blind obedience of fools - Solon, Lawmaker of Athens)
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To: workerbee

What a bunch of Bolshevik!


33 posted on 06/07/2013 5:36:27 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: plain talk

I personally really like Matilda (no h, thanks). And Miranda.

What’s really interesting is how certain “old” names make it back to popularity and others don’t. Take Emma, for instance, a name hugely popular in the late 1890s and then all but died out around WWII. About ten years ago it saw a resurgence and is now the 2nd most popular girls name. But Florence, even more widely used at the turn of the 20th century than Emma, is practically extinct with no sign of resusitation.


34 posted on 06/07/2013 5:37:21 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Oztrich Boy
Sarah says "feminine, with a hint of badass" LOL, that describes MY Sarah, alright.
35 posted on 06/07/2013 5:38:11 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: boop

Oh my gosh. If I were a hooker on crack Id turn him down even for $1 million,


36 posted on 06/07/2013 5:38:37 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: workerbee; All

George Foreman had it right!


37 posted on 06/07/2013 5:41:17 PM PDT by VMI70
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To: combat_boots

If I ever have a daughter I’d like to name herAda Josephine. A favorite aunt as well as my grandfather’s first wife who died in childbirth had that name. Roxanne is a family name, too, going back generations, but The Police might have ruined that lovely old name.


38 posted on 06/07/2013 5:41:52 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: goodwithagun

Re: Cecelia, it is a lovely name, but I can’t help but think of the Simon & Garfunkle song by that name:

Making love in the afternoon with Cecilia
Up in my bedroom (making love)
I got up to wash my face
When I come back to bed
Someone’s taken my place

Cecilia, you’re breaking my heart
You’re shaking my confidence daily
Oh, Cecilia, I’m down on my knees
I’m begging you please to come home
Come on home


39 posted on 06/07/2013 5:46:48 PM PDT by Nevadan
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To: RockyTx
how does ‘Malia’ translate into Spanish?

Hard to pin down.

A girl's name of Hawaiian, Hebrew, Italian, Native American, Spanish and Zuni origin that has a traditionally feminine sound. Malia is at an all-time popularity peak and is currently ranked #345 among the U.S. girls' names. Meaning: bitter; sea of bitterness. A form of Mary.
Source: www.nymbler.com

40 posted on 06/07/2013 5:47:30 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: workerbee

Both of my daughters were born in the 1980s and I went for the Irish names. Don’t ask me why, as I have no Irish blood in me (hubby has some); just liked the names — Erin and Kerry.


41 posted on 06/07/2013 5:53:03 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: Our man in washington

My son was born in 1972. His name is Seth. It was very uncommon at the time; now I hear that name all the time.


42 posted on 06/07/2013 5:56:30 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: Our man in washington
My son is not my possession. It’s not right to use him to prove that I’m arty or sophisticated or whatever.

This is a great point. I definitely think there's a line between "unique" and "what are your parents' trying to prove?"

43 posted on 06/07/2013 5:57:21 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Roxanne is a family name, too, going back generations, but The Police might have ruined that lovely old name.

Many names that seem trendy or "invented" to current generations are actually quite old. I wouldn't have thought Roxanne was one of them, but thanks for pointing this out. I actually have an Appolonia in my family tree (from the mid 1800's, I believe) -- but I can't see that as anything other than Prince's lady friend from the '90s movie Purple Rain!

44 posted on 06/07/2013 6:01:53 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: DLfromthedesert

I love Seth!

Boys names are really hard for me. I guess it’s a good thing I had 3 daughters.


45 posted on 06/07/2013 6:02:28 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: workerbee

My wife and I struggled over names for our baby for sometime. The only boys name we could agree on was Chase. A girls name we never agreed on. Thank goodness we had a boy !


46 posted on 06/07/2013 6:03:46 PM PDT by Bud Krieger (Another President , another idiot......)
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To: workerbee

Liberal Republicans give their boys girls names like, Lindsey and Haley.


47 posted on 06/07/2013 6:07:04 PM PDT by rsobin
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To: RegulatorCountry

Well, if you want to talk about ruining a name, Ms. Lewinsky sure wiped “Monica” off the map ;)


48 posted on 06/07/2013 6:13:24 PM PDT by jttpwalsh
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To: rsobin

In the case of those two names, I think it’s more a Southern tradition. The South has always favored surname/family names for their male children.

OTOH, many names we consider feminine were once entirely masculine. For example: Courtney, Evelyn, Darcy, Dana, and Vivien were all once exclusively male.


49 posted on 06/07/2013 6:13:40 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: workerbee; goodwithagun

I have a great niece named Cecilia and her little sister is named Vivian (that’s one you don’t hear much now days).

I also have great nieces named Madelyn, Lillian and Helen; Helen was my mother’s name and there was a Madelyn and Lillian on my niece’s husband’s side of the family.


50 posted on 06/07/2013 6:13:54 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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