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Colorado secede? Counties weigh exit plan to form state of 'North Colorado'
Christian Science Monitor ^ | JUNE 8, 2013 | Mark Trumbull

Posted on 06/09/2013 10:32:48 PM PDT by max americana

Colorado secede? Counties weigh exit plan to form state of 'North Colorado'

Colorado secede? It sounds implausible, but the idea of counties withdrawing from one state to form a new one isn’t impossible. But some big hurdles – like the US Constitution – make it very difficult.

It’s an uphill climb that looks Rocky Mountain high, but a collection of independent-thinking counties may mount an effort to secede from the rest of Colorado and form their own new state.

The idea is rooted in the political rift that many Coloradans – especially rural ones – feel with a Denver-based state legislature that has taken a liberal turn in recent years.

A new state, if it formed, might be called North Colorado.

Would that mean that the rest of the current state would need to become South Colorado? How would the US flag look with 51 stars? Would this give similar ideas to politically restive sections of other states?

It may be too early to ask such questions. The road to forming a new state is a difficult one.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: 51ststate; colorado; secede; secession
Every state that is controlled by lib major cities should do the same...
1 posted on 06/09/2013 10:32:48 PM PDT by max americana
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To: max americana

I live in Colorado and am all in. Let Gov Chickenchoker govern just the cesspool of Denver. He can be the chickenpooper of denver!!! FUBO too!!!


2 posted on 06/09/2013 10:38:28 PM PDT by MtnClimber (TEA Party, DOMA, Patriot, Constitution, 9/12, Anti-communist...There, come and get me zer0!)
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To: MtnClimber
Hahaha. Which parts are left-wing wackos other than Denver?

Update us on the latest lawsuit between the Sheriffs and the Stalinists in Colorado government?

I read that the Sheriffs won't stand for Stalinism in Colorado.

3 posted on 06/09/2013 10:45:11 PM PDT by Prole
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To: max americana

There should be the State of Inner Colorado (a 50-mile circle containing Denver and Boulder) and Outer Colorado consisting of everything else.


4 posted on 06/09/2013 10:45:32 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: max americana

[[But some big hurdles – like the US Constitution – make it very difficult.]]

Pffft- Our own govenrment IGNORES the consitution- so why shoudl states obey it?


5 posted on 06/09/2013 11:15:02 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Carry_Okie

[[There should be the State of Inner Colorado (a 50-mile circle containing Denver and Boulder) and Outer Colorado consisting of everything else.]]

And the outer state circle shoudl wiretap, monitor, read emails, violate the inner circle’s consitutional rights- and keep the inner circle on a VERY tight reign so that they can’t exand and do anym ore damage- Let’s see how the left likes havign hteir rights violated for once!


6 posted on 06/09/2013 11:17:24 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop
And the outer state circle shoudl wiretap, monitor, read emails, violate the inner circle’s consitutional rights- and keep the inner circle on a VERY tight reign so that they can’t exand and do anym ore damage- Let’s see how the left likes havign hteir rights violated for once!

Naah, just charge them appropriately for the nuisance of delivering them food.

7 posted on 06/09/2013 11:19:49 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: MtnClimber

Northern Californians talk about it, at least your guys in the state do something about it.


8 posted on 06/09/2013 11:23:41 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: CottShop

Amen. If Klownie the Kenyan doesn’t adhere to the Constitution, then why should Northern CO residents follow it then? Secede!


9 posted on 06/09/2013 11:25:37 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: max americana
The road to forming a new state is a difficult one.

Maybe it would be easier to have Wyoming annex these counties, at least the ones contiguous to it.

Don't matter to me, first chance I get I'm moving there.

10 posted on 06/09/2013 11:29:10 PM PDT by BikerTrash
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To: Carry_Okie

There IS precedent for such a split — in Switzerland. Basil city and Basil land split into two cantons circa 1830.


11 posted on 06/09/2013 11:42:24 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (How humanitarian are "leaders" who back Malthusian, Utilitarian & Green nutcases?)
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To: MtnClimber
Let Gov Chickenchoker govern just the cesspool of Denver.

You have a point here that has been on my mind about my birth stare, New York. Some of the finest people in the Union are in NYState, and are quite flattened and made voiceless by the city and suburbs of New York City. Gotham should be separated as a city-state, given 2 extra Senators, and Representatives based on land area, not population. Same for every state with a megatropolis that smothers the clingers in the flyover areas. 2 Senators per unit, Reps based on land area. A possible redistribution of impact

But--this is just an idle thought. The big cities have a throttle grasp on the federal system, and will not give up. IMHO

12 posted on 06/09/2013 11:43:59 PM PDT by imardmd1
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To: max americana

“Our vision and our morals are no longer represented by the state [Legislature] and the current [governor’s] administration...”

Taxation without representation. That’s what started it in the 1700’s, and that’s what will start it again now. This is only the beginning.


13 posted on 06/10/2013 12:29:31 AM PDT by Exeter (A government that doesn't trust its people is a government that shouldn't be trusted.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
There IS precedent for such a split — in Switzerland. Basil city and Basil land split into two cantons circa 1830.

Did you forget about West Virginia? They split from Virginia. The trick is the state legislature has to approve the split and so does the US congress. As the article says it is difficult but not impossible.

That is the reason some CA counties have never split off, to many dems oppose the move. I would love to have a state composed of the Northeastern counties of CA, they are mostly Red. I wouldn't want a straight N/S split because you would have Sacramento and the coastal region included and they are as blue as the sky. Orange county would also be nice to have.

14 posted on 06/10/2013 3:34:49 AM PDT by calex59
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To: max americana

You think it won’t work both ways? Indiana usually reliable Republican but spots of leftist infestation.
I think if it happens we might see a similar movement in every state. Hey California might split 2 lib areas just for the extra 2 senators.
While i think that people should be free to pursue something along these lines it’s best to understand all the consequences and what limits would (sadly) of necessity need be imposed or we might find this nation even more fractured than it is today.


15 posted on 06/10/2013 3:49:06 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: max americana

If West Virginia can do it, why can’t North Colorado?

Or West California?
Or East Washington?
Or North New York?
Or Outer Minnesota?


16 posted on 06/10/2013 3:58:39 AM PDT by kidd
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To: kidd

In many cases; kicking the cities ‘to the curb’ would clean up most states.


17 posted on 06/10/2013 4:00:16 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: calex59

Did you forget about West Virginia? They split from Virginia. The trick is the state legislature has to approve the split and so does the US congress.

They made an exception to form WV.


18 posted on 06/10/2013 4:21:04 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Prole

Heard Greeley is as left as it gets.


19 posted on 06/10/2013 4:25:39 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: max americana

Isn’t this how West Virginia was formed?


20 posted on 06/10/2013 5:14:54 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: who knows what evil?

Decentralized government is the key to individual liberty.

Most things should be handled at the county/local level. Even having to deal with state level issues should be rare.


21 posted on 06/10/2013 5:19:55 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MtnClimber

I think it’s fantasy. That being said—it is a happy fantasy. I would favor a more East West division— or to have Sodom—and the peoples Republic of Boulder become a walled state contained by the Reason that surrounds them—much the reverse of Germany before the Wall came down.


22 posted on 06/10/2013 5:47:50 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: MtnClimber

I think it’s fantasy. That being said—it is a happy fantasy. I would favor a more East West division— or to have Sodom—and the peoples Republic of Boulder become a walled state contained by the Reason that surrounds them—much the reverse of Germany before the Wall came down.


23 posted on 06/10/2013 5:48:01 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: freedomfiter2
None the less(it was also done during the secession period),it is a precedent, one in this country, the only one that counts. Splitting off of a state is perfectly constitutional as long as the procedures are followed. As I said, Colorado state legislature has to approve the split, ditto the US legislature, then viola, the deed would be done, a new state, Northern Colorado.

I live in CA but love Colorado, I have been hunting there many times over the years. It is sad to see it slipping into the same liberal quicksand that has dealt a death blow to CA.

24 posted on 06/10/2013 6:29:22 AM PDT by calex59
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To: freedomfiter2
The federal government won the approval of the rump legislature (representing the parts of Virginia under Union occupation) to go ahead with the admission of West Virginia as a separate state. I think the people behind the formation of West Virginia were mostly from the northern counties (settled from Pennsylvania) whereas many of the southern counties of what is now WV (settled from the older parts of Virginia) still were loyal to Virginia and supportive of the Confederacy. I think there were a lot of counties in southern WV which did not participate in the 1864 federal election. I had relatives in the southern part of WV who served in Confederate units.

The Old Dominion was not renamed East Virginia...although I think the Perfesser in "Shoe" thinks he lives there.

25 posted on 06/10/2013 7:58:39 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: calex59

LOL. No, I wasn’t going to CH in order to demonstrate that it was possible in the United States.

I was responding to Carryokie’s idea: Making the Denver/Boulder area its own city state (as it Base-Stadt) and have the remainder of Colorado as its own state (as is Basel-Land).


26 posted on 06/10/2013 10:58:24 AM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (How humanitarian are "leaders" who back Malthusian, Utilitarian & Green nutcases?)
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To: max americana
You know what, why don't other states think about doing this? Illinois would be a big one to split up, California would be another. The rats are trying to spread their influence to Texas and other red states, but if states can split depending on their political leanings, that would negate any attempt by the rats to continue to take states such as Illinois and California.

I say more states ought to think about doing this.

27 posted on 06/10/2013 4:09:15 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: ducttape45

“The rats are trying to spread their influence to Texas and other red states,”

Actually, liberals are like diseased rodents. They destroy one state and once done, they move to another with better supply aka red states. Whenever I head to Napa Valley as an example, it’s not surprising you will find pictures of Reagan in most wine estates.


28 posted on 06/10/2013 7:44:20 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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