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Is this proof the Virgin Queen was an imposter in drag?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk ^ | 8 June 2013 | Christopher Stevens

Posted on 06/10/2013 3:34:21 PM PDT by BBell

The bones of Elizabeth I, Good Queen Bess, lie mingled with those of her sister, Bloody Mary, in a single tomb at Westminster Abbey. But are they really royal remains — or evidence of the greatest conspiracy in English history?

If that is not the skeleton of Elizabeth Tudor, the past four centuries of British history have been founded on a lie.

And according to a controversial new book, the lie began on an autumn morning 470 years ago, when panic swept through a little group of courtiers in a manor house in the Cotswold village of Bisley in Gloucestershire.

The king, Henry VIII, was due at any hour. He was travelling from London, in great discomfort — for the 52-year-old monarch was grossly overweight and crippled by festering sores — to visit his daughter, Elizabeth.

The young princess had been sent there that summer from the capital to avoid an outbreak of plague. But she had fallen sick with a fever and, after weeks of bleeding, leeches and vomiting, her body was too weak to keep fighting. The night before the king’s arrival, his favourite daughter, the only child of his marriage to Anne Boleyn, had been dangerously ill. In the morning, Elizabeth lay dead.

Elizabeth’s governess, Lady Kat Ashley, and her guardian, Thomas Parry, had good reason to fear telling the king this awful news. It would cost them their lives. Four of Henry’s children had died in infancy and, of the survivors, one — Edward — was a sickly boy of five and the other an embittered, unmarried woman in her late 20s.

The ten-year-old Elizabeth was Tudor England’s most valuable child in many ways. She could surely be married to a French or Spanish prince to seal an international alliance — and her own children would secure the

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: anneboleyn; bisley; bisleyboy; bloodymary; cotswolds; elizabethi; gloucestershire; godsgravesglyphs; goodqueenbess; helixmakemineadouble; katashley; queenelizabeth; sourcetitlenoturl; thomasparry; tudor; unitedkingdom
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To: BBell
' Is this proof the Virgin Queen was an imposter in drag?'

Well, Boy George got away with it for a couple of years.........


21 posted on 06/10/2013 4:42:00 PM PDT by Viking2002
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To: laweeks

britroyals.com has the pics and some history on each. I recently checked it out following my family tree.


22 posted on 06/10/2013 4:46:23 PM PDT by postal patty
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To: BBell
You read the entire article in 1 minute and 5 seconds?

It was posted earlier.

23 posted on 06/10/2013 4:48:32 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Eva
I’m not so sure about that.

I'm quite sure.

As is anyone who is familiar with just how intimate the relationship was between a monarch and her ladies-in-waiting.

24 posted on 06/10/2013 4:50:02 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert
Exactly.

Her choices, due to the position her father had placed the kingdom in - were extremely limited.

To choose a foreign husband would have meant subjugation for the English, or an alienating alliance with an unimportant principality.

A domestic husband would have meant picking out one domestic faction for favor, encouraging civil war.

25 posted on 06/10/2013 4:52:39 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

I searched but I did not find it posted before. But we all know that the search engine here is not infallible.


26 posted on 06/10/2013 4:58:02 PM PDT by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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To: ought-six

I have never been to the British Isles but the small town in which I grew up was full of Mac’s Mc’s and other Scottish names.

There were so many absolute babes in my high school, that I can believe that area must produce a huge number of beauties.


27 posted on 06/10/2013 5:00:03 PM PDT by yarddog (There Are Three Things That Remain--Faith, Hope, and Love--and,the Greatest of These is Love..)
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To: BBell

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3029515/posts


28 posted on 06/10/2013 5:05:52 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Popman

I see ugly women all the time....often driving cars with “Obama/Biden” stickers.

This is just one more step in the attempt at queerification of historical figures.


29 posted on 06/10/2013 5:16:28 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: windcliff; stylecouncilor

What’s an Elizabethan to do? ping....


30 posted on 06/10/2013 5:28:32 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: BBell
All I could think of while reading this is: "it's a boy. And somebody said, 'But it hasn't got a winkle!' And then I said, 'A boy without a winkle? God be praised, it's a miracle. A boy without a winkle!' And then Sir Thomas Moore pointed out that a boy without a winkle is a girl."

if this is true, then Nursie was wrong, and Elizabeth did, in fact, have a winkle.

Name that program!

31 posted on 06/10/2013 5:44:53 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: BBell

Nope. It requires too many people in the know not saying anything.


32 posted on 06/10/2013 5:46:51 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Tanniker Smith

Blackadder: Second season.


33 posted on 06/10/2013 5:54:30 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: BBell

Also: the Earl of Oxford wrote all of Shakespeare’s plays.


34 posted on 06/10/2013 5:57:19 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: donmeaker
You are correct, sir.

35 posted on 06/10/2013 6:02:04 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: Tanniker Smith

Blackadder.


36 posted on 06/10/2013 6:04:20 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: ought-six

“English girls are among the world’s most beautiful.

They are indeed.”

You’ve obviously been to a different England than I have.


37 posted on 06/10/2013 6:53:10 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: BBell

Quentin Crisp played Elizabeth in a movie. That’s proof enough for me.


38 posted on 06/10/2013 6:54:27 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: BBell
‘Elizabeth’s grave has never been breached,’ Berry says. ‘Now it’s time to open it up and see what’s in there.’

When they open it up to satisfy their curiosity, maybe they can do some justice for Mary by burying her separately from Bloody Bess.

39 posted on 06/10/2013 7:15:45 PM PDT by Slyfox (Without the Right to Life, all other rights are meaningless.)
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To: wideawake

Ah, the title is changed.


40 posted on 06/10/2013 7:31:08 PM PDT by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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