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Is this proof the Virgin Queen was an imposter in drag?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk ^ | 8 June 2013 | Christopher Stevens

Posted on 06/10/2013 3:34:21 PM PDT by BBell

The bones of Elizabeth I, Good Queen Bess, lie mingled with those of her sister, Bloody Mary, in a single tomb at Westminster Abbey. But are they really royal remains — or evidence of the greatest conspiracy in English history?

If that is not the skeleton of Elizabeth Tudor, the past four centuries of British history have been founded on a lie.

And according to a controversial new book, the lie began on an autumn morning 470 years ago, when panic swept through a little group of courtiers in a manor house in the Cotswold village of Bisley in Gloucestershire.

The king, Henry VIII, was due at any hour. He was travelling from London, in great discomfort — for the 52-year-old monarch was grossly overweight and crippled by festering sores — to visit his daughter, Elizabeth.

The young princess had been sent there that summer from the capital to avoid an outbreak of plague. But she had fallen sick with a fever and, after weeks of bleeding, leeches and vomiting, her body was too weak to keep fighting. The night before the king’s arrival, his favourite daughter, the only child of his marriage to Anne Boleyn, had been dangerously ill. In the morning, Elizabeth lay dead.

Elizabeth’s governess, Lady Kat Ashley, and her guardian, Thomas Parry, had good reason to fear telling the king this awful news. It would cost them their lives. Four of Henry’s children had died in infancy and, of the survivors, one — Edward — was a sickly boy of five and the other an embittered, unmarried woman in her late 20s.

The ten-year-old Elizabeth was Tudor England’s most valuable child in many ways. She could surely be married to a French or Spanish prince to seal an international alliance — and her own children would secure the

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; queenelizabeth; sourcetitlenoturl; tudor; unitedkingdom
Full title:Is this proof the Virgin Queen was an imposter in drag? Shocking new theory about Elizabeth I unearthed in historic manuscripts

A good read for those of us interested in Historical conspiracy.

1 posted on 06/10/2013 3:34:21 PM PDT by BBell
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To: BBell

Nothing about this theory stands up to a moment’s scrutiny.


2 posted on 06/10/2013 3:35:26 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: SunkenCiv

This is an interesting article.


3 posted on 06/10/2013 3:35:37 PM PDT by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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To: wideawake

You read the entire article in 1 minute and 5 seconds?


4 posted on 06/10/2013 3:36:49 PM PDT by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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To: BBell

Sounds like lefties are desperate to find transgenders to add to their revisionist history books. Can’t find one then make one like they tried to do to Lincoln.


5 posted on 06/10/2013 3:39:50 PM PDT by Teflonic
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To: BBell
This is the only picture I could find of the real Virgin Queen.


6 posted on 06/10/2013 3:41:10 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: BBell

Hard to say as most English women look like guys in drag ;)


7 posted on 06/10/2013 3:43:41 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: wideawake

I’m not so sure about that. The story has been around for almost two hundred years. I think that it is possible. It is also possible that Elizabeth was just gay, rigidly so.


8 posted on 06/10/2013 3:44:04 PM PDT by Eva
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To: trapped_in_LA
Hard to say as most English women look like guys in drag

No, they don't. English girls are among the world's most beautiful.

9 posted on 06/10/2013 3:52:35 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: BBell

Bunch of hooey.


10 posted on 06/10/2013 4:04:04 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: BBell
Interesting....for sure the Queen was one ugly "woman"...

The portraits in the article are very revealing...

11 posted on 06/10/2013 4:07:06 PM PDT by Popman (Godlessness is always the first step to the concentration camp.)
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To: wideawake
"monarch was grossly overweight and crippled by festering sores "

I had to read this article twice because at first I thought it was about MOOOOchelle.

12 posted on 06/10/2013 4:09:28 PM PDT by Take_Ur_shot (Some day things are going to be as bad as they are right now!)
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To: Teflonic

“Sounds like lefties are desperate to find transgenders to add to their revisionist history books. Can’t find one then make one like they tried to do to Lincoln.”

You have a point but an unmarried head of state in that age, I think not. My guess, she was a hermaphrodite.


13 posted on 06/10/2013 4:11:59 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: Fiji Hill

Yeah, you tell 'em, Feej.

14 posted on 06/10/2013 4:14:59 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: wideawake

I’ve never understood why people don’t immediately understand why Elizabeth I didn’t want to marry. She was very, very smart, and she knew that marrying anyone at all would have had her playing second banana to him — or else it would have been a constant source of friction (both political and personal) if she *didn’t* play second banana to him. She didn’t have to be gay to want to avoid marriage.


15 posted on 06/10/2013 4:23:20 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (FUBO, and the useful idiots you rode in on!)
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To: Teflonic

Did you read it? There are no transgendered people in the story I just read. It’s about a deception.


16 posted on 06/10/2013 4:25:02 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: wideawake

Agreed


17 posted on 06/10/2013 4:27:25 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: wideawake

Well, this will rile ‘em up. So much easier to believe QEI was a drag queen (LOL), than to accept the “Free World” is being led by a communist invention.


18 posted on 06/10/2013 4:30:59 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Fiji Hill

“English girls are among the world’s most beautiful.”

They are indeed.


19 posted on 06/10/2013 4:37:56 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Fiji Hill

We’ll have to agree to disagree on that.


20 posted on 06/10/2013 4:41:27 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: BBell
' Is this proof the Virgin Queen was an imposter in drag?'

Well, Boy George got away with it for a couple of years.........


21 posted on 06/10/2013 4:42:00 PM PDT by Viking2002
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To: laweeks

britroyals.com has the pics and some history on each. I recently checked it out following my family tree.


22 posted on 06/10/2013 4:46:23 PM PDT by postal patty
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To: BBell
You read the entire article in 1 minute and 5 seconds?

It was posted earlier.

23 posted on 06/10/2013 4:48:32 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Eva
I’m not so sure about that.

I'm quite sure.

As is anyone who is familiar with just how intimate the relationship was between a monarch and her ladies-in-waiting.

24 posted on 06/10/2013 4:50:02 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert
Exactly.

Her choices, due to the position her father had placed the kingdom in - were extremely limited.

To choose a foreign husband would have meant subjugation for the English, or an alienating alliance with an unimportant principality.

A domestic husband would have meant picking out one domestic faction for favor, encouraging civil war.

25 posted on 06/10/2013 4:52:39 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

I searched but I did not find it posted before. But we all know that the search engine here is not infallible.


26 posted on 06/10/2013 4:58:02 PM PDT by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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To: ought-six

I have never been to the British Isles but the small town in which I grew up was full of Mac’s Mc’s and other Scottish names.

There were so many absolute babes in my high school, that I can believe that area must produce a huge number of beauties.


27 posted on 06/10/2013 5:00:03 PM PDT by yarddog (There Are Three Things That Remain--Faith, Hope, and Love--and,the Greatest of These is Love..)
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To: BBell

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3029515/posts


28 posted on 06/10/2013 5:05:52 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Popman

I see ugly women all the time....often driving cars with “Obama/Biden” stickers.

This is just one more step in the attempt at queerification of historical figures.


29 posted on 06/10/2013 5:16:28 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: windcliff; stylecouncilor

What’s an Elizabethan to do? ping....


30 posted on 06/10/2013 5:28:32 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: BBell
All I could think of while reading this is: "it's a boy. And somebody said, 'But it hasn't got a winkle!' And then I said, 'A boy without a winkle? God be praised, it's a miracle. A boy without a winkle!' And then Sir Thomas Moore pointed out that a boy without a winkle is a girl."

if this is true, then Nursie was wrong, and Elizabeth did, in fact, have a winkle.

Name that program!

31 posted on 06/10/2013 5:44:53 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: BBell

Nope. It requires too many people in the know not saying anything.


32 posted on 06/10/2013 5:46:51 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Tanniker Smith

Blackadder: Second season.


33 posted on 06/10/2013 5:54:30 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: BBell

Also: the Earl of Oxford wrote all of Shakespeare’s plays.


34 posted on 06/10/2013 5:57:19 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: donmeaker
You are correct, sir.

35 posted on 06/10/2013 6:02:04 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: Tanniker Smith

Blackadder.


36 posted on 06/10/2013 6:04:20 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: ought-six

“English girls are among the world’s most beautiful.

They are indeed.”

You’ve obviously been to a different England than I have.


37 posted on 06/10/2013 6:53:10 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: BBell

Quentin Crisp played Elizabeth in a movie. That’s proof enough for me.


38 posted on 06/10/2013 6:54:27 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: BBell
‘Elizabeth’s grave has never been breached,’ Berry says. ‘Now it’s time to open it up and see what’s in there.’

When they open it up to satisfy their curiosity, maybe they can do some justice for Mary by burying her separately from Bloody Bess.

39 posted on 06/10/2013 7:15:45 PM PDT by Slyfox (Without the Right to Life, all other rights are meaningless.)
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To: wideawake

Ah, the title is changed.


40 posted on 06/10/2013 7:31:08 PM PDT by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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To: wideawake

I never thought about that.


41 posted on 06/10/2013 7:52:23 PM PDT by Eva
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To: BBell
Now she was dead, and when the king discovered it, Parry and Lady Ashley would surely be executed. Their sole duty had been to keep the princess safe: failure was treason. ... They would be bound and dragged through the mud for a mile to the scaffold. There they would be hanged, cut down and disembowelled. Their entrails would be hauled from their bodies and held in front of their faces as they died, and then their limbs would be hacked off and displayed on spikes, to be picked bare by the birds.

Oh, nonsense.

Royal children died all the time. Like everybody else's kids. AFAIK, there is no incident in English history where the child's guardians were executed for it.

Female traitors were not executed in this way, out of respect for modesty. They were burned alive instead.

42 posted on 06/11/2013 1:44:20 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: BBell; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks BBell. To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


43 posted on 06/11/2013 3:52:24 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: BBell
'She described herself as a Virgin Queen, and vowed she would never take a husband, even if the Emperor of Spain offered her .. his oldest son.'
Well heck, who can blame her?

She knew that the moment they were married he'd bring his whole dang family over --- and there goes England.

44 posted on 06/11/2013 12:00:07 PM PDT by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: Fai Mao

My mother was English.


45 posted on 06/13/2013 7:37:09 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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