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To: rockrr
If the north hadn't gone to war to end slavery, pray tell how the South went to war to save it?

Your logic does not hold.

The north went to war to secure a tier of states it could continue to treat as a second-class source of raw materials for its own mill industry. Threats to end slavery were threats of economic sanctions. Tariffs were designed to force trade with the North and hamper industrialization in the South to preserve the status quo. The cause was economic in nature.

False altruism might make for nice fairy tales, but it was all about the money.

35 posted on 06/11/2013 9:08:30 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Slavery depended on new land, because slaves had to be kept ignorant to remain slaves. Old farms became unprofitable except as a place to breed slaves. Example: Arlington Va.

Closing the territories to slavery would have killed slavery, by reducing demand for slaves, dropping the price.

The south started the war, and attempted to invade the territories, to the extent they could. They had tried to start the war in Kansas, in an attempt to corruptly install a slave constitution. They were stopped. They started the war at Ft. Sumter to induce Virginia to join their insurrection.


39 posted on 06/11/2013 9:39:15 AM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Actually the logic is self-evident.

Lincoln said that although he would resist the expansion of slavery into the territories he understood that (irrespective of his feelings regarding the institution) slavery was sanctioned by the constitution. His stated intention was to maintain the union as it was.

The notion that anyone sought to “secure a tier of states” is utter nonsense. The idea that the souths’ failure to industrialize was founded in anything other than sloth is ludicrous. “The cause was economic in nature.” Yes - the economics of slave labor.


41 posted on 06/11/2013 10:07:16 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I agree, but then what role did the Republican abolitionists and Lincoln play? Were they useful idiots for the power brokers that wanted to game to continue to be played, or were they a part of the conspiracy?


70 posted on 06/11/2013 2:02:14 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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