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Education Secretary Arne Duncan: Pre-School is Better Than Grandma
Cybercast News Service ^ | June 13, 2013 - 11:38 AM | Penny Starr

Posted on 06/14/2013 4:11:37 AM PDT by Olog-hai

Education Secretary Arne Duncan said Wednesday that “cultural hesitation” makes it more difficult for some Hispanic parents to want to enroll their children in public pre-school programs because of their preference for family and friends.

Duncan’s remarks came when asked about pre-school and the Hispanic community at an event to mark the anniversary of Educare of Washington, D.C., a preschool for children from six weeks to five years old. …

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Education; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: arneduncan; chicagomachine; communism; destroythefamily; headstart; preschool
Pure communism out of Arne Duncan. Nice job on the public schools in Chicago, BTW (he was CEO of their public school system all through the first decade of the new century).
1 posted on 06/14/2013 4:11:38 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

History shows Headstart does not work and may even hurt children.

Nothing is better for early learning then a loving home and loving parents & grand parents.


2 posted on 06/14/2013 4:17:13 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Olog-hai

I can’t say this often enough.

The “public school” is the Bus Ministry of the State Church of Multi-Culti Political Correctness.

The “public school”, including the “charter school”, is BY FAR, the largest, most expensive, most subversive, and most destructive entitlement program in the country.

The “public school” is better understood as the “government school collective”.

It is silly to imagine that you can fix the public schools, because the very concept itself is collectivist.

It is hypocritical to submit your children to an authority with whom you fundamentally disagree. Children do not trust hypocrites, so this hypocrisy will undermine your own authority and influence over your children.

Any child that comes out of the government school collective with their moral compass and common sense intact does so in spite of the government school indoctrination, not because of it.

To understand the content and compass of modern education, see ...
http://www.scribd.com/doc/54400125/Change-Agents-in-the-Schools-Barbara-Morris-1979

If you want to win the culture war, have lots of children (see my tagline) and homeschool them or form your own school cooperative with your church or synagogue and like-minded friends and relatives.

Nobody loves your children more than you do.

Nobody can teach your children better than you can.

Nobody knows your children better than you do.

Your children would love nothing better than to be taught by you, if you start doing so before they are corrupted by the government school collective.

If you have children, make whatever sacrifices you must to get them out of the public schools.

DO NOT FEED THE BEAST!

Especially not with your own children.

And DO NOT TAKE GOVERNMENT “EDUCATION” MONEY!

He that pays the piper calls the tune, and that’s especially true for any government entitlement program.


3 posted on 06/14/2013 4:19:50 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Olog-hai

When I was there in 2002, they didn’t have pre-school in Russia. In fact, they didn’t start school until age 7. They spent their pre-school childhood with mother or grandparents, and they were expected to arrive their first day of school already literate and numerate at a level considered commensurate for age 7 in Russia.


4 posted on 06/14/2013 4:25:02 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Olog-hai

The State can never do a better job of raising children then family can. Of course a government overlord wants to get you kids away from family members and begin the indoctrination as soon as possible............


5 posted on 06/14/2013 4:29:45 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: Olog-hai
… a preschool for children from six weeks to five years old. …

It’s a preschool or daycare? What’s a six week old infant going to learn?

6 posted on 06/14/2013 4:37:09 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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What’s a six week old infant going to learn?

How to start sucking on the government teat at an early age ;)

7 posted on 06/14/2013 4:42:27 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Obama's Enemies List - Yes, you are a crook.)
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To: Olog-hai

Yeah, especially when it’s government-run, right?

F*** off, Duncan.


8 posted on 06/14/2013 4:43:16 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: Westbrook

All your point are on target, but again for the American people it’s a matter of $$$. They think they are financially required to send their children to indoctrination. Many don’t even know what indoctrination is.


9 posted on 06/14/2013 4:44:58 AM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Olog-hai

Mmm...Mmm...Mmm...


10 posted on 06/14/2013 4:46:06 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: driftdiver

For years though the media reported on the “success” of Head Start like it was a tribute to Lady Bird Johnson, who pushed this through in 1965. And most Americans still truly believe in the success of Head Start.


11 posted on 06/14/2013 4:46:52 AM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: driftdiver

We don’t need no education
We don’t need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey! teachers! leave the kids alone!
All in all you’re just another brick in the wall.
All in all you’re just another brick in the wall.


12 posted on 06/14/2013 4:51:31 AM PDT by Bronzy
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To: VeniVidiVici

That has to be it.


13 posted on 06/14/2013 4:55:05 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: driftdiver
History shows Headstart does not work and may even hurt children

I do not know how they could determine that it hurts children. I would think that the interesting and testable hypothesis would be that any gains from these headstart progrms dwindle over a few years, so in the long run there's no benefit.

In my wonderful journey through the world of substitute teaching (it's really a nice supplementary income for a retiree, and every day is unique) I've spent some time in these federally funded preschools for 4-5 year olds. They're supplied with unbelievable resources...books, toys, building blocks, puzzles, role-playing play stations, group meeting corners, reading-writing early learning materials, even playground equipment right outside the door. The kids do speak English there (that's a plus). The children get free breakfast, free lunch, and the full complement of specialists for music, art, phys ed, being read stories, etc.

If they're saying "look at the material things we provide" it's true, they provide so much. Question is, would simple things like just a few toys and activities from loving parents and grandparents have greater long-range impact? Maybe Sebelius and her crone crew don't understand that.

14 posted on 06/14/2013 5:10:04 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania

Children who’ve attended headstart are behind other children developmentally.

There are many factors since headstart has been provided to children who tended to be from very poor and/or single parent homes.


15 posted on 06/14/2013 5:18:25 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Olog-hai

Sounds like Agenda 21.


16 posted on 06/14/2013 5:38:52 AM PDT by BobL (To us it's a game, to them it's personal - therefore they win.)
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To: Westbrook

Amen. Truest words spoken today.


17 posted on 06/14/2013 5:40:59 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Hey NSA, here I am. Bring a large Hawaiian pizza when you come for me.)
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To: Olog-hai

Arne-My grandmother was a soft spoken British Gal all of 5’4” that taught School back in the days of one room School, who if she heard you say that would would have kicked your ass over your shoulders.


18 posted on 06/14/2013 5:53:12 AM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: Olog-hai

Nothing is better than Grandma.
Grandma rules.


19 posted on 06/14/2013 6:05:17 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Gun Control is the Key to totalitarianism and genocide.)
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To: driftdiver

and especially playing and being a kid.


20 posted on 06/14/2013 6:06:19 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Olog-hai

Commie Obama is becoming THE most transparent Communist Administration through his commie Federal servants.


21 posted on 06/14/2013 6:06:26 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: grania

I guess the only question for me is, are those other kids really kids i’d WANT my kids to be around?

Do they know ‘more’ things at 4 or 5 than I WANT my kid to know?

Is my kid better off with all that ‘stuff’, if the other kids are all Honey Boo Boo?

That’s who’s socializing your kid in public schools. Honey Boo Boo.

We’ll pass.


22 posted on 06/14/2013 6:08:38 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Olog-hai

How can anybody be this stupid? Oh yeah, he graduated from Harvard with a Sociology degree.


23 posted on 06/14/2013 6:33:11 AM PDT by Ford4000
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To: Black Agnes

They’d be vast pools of knowledge. Birth Control, legal issues with parenting etc. They’d know enough to call 911 because your kid had a toy gun.

This is ALL about indoctination into the Communist mindset.
Get em as young as you can.

The lastest- Toy Gun Buy back that was in the news the last couple of days proves that. As Holder said, ‘we need to change the whole mindset on guns in America.’ Get to them at that age and it will only take one generation and it will be complete confiscation with that generation being the eyes and ears of the Government.


24 posted on 06/14/2013 6:43:35 AM PDT by VRWCarea51
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Even on the school bus. There’d be 15 or 16yr olds discussing their ‘techniques’, b/c issues, baby daddies and the latest Kartrashian sex videos. Along with drugs and other stuff I’d just rather my FIVE year old (or SIX year old or SEVEN year old or TEN year old) NOT be aware of just yet.

When we were kids it was just the other kids knowing ‘bad words’. Now the six year olds are likely to know as much about human reproduction as their 21yr old mothers.

Public schools. Your six year old socializing with low class trashy people. 10 hrs a day. Versus how many hours a day they’re with you? Hmmm, which set of values do you think they’ll pick up? Hmmm, let me think about that...

I’m not sure any ‘resources’, reading materials and playground equipment will ameliorate that other stuff. Pretty sure, in fact, that it won’t.


25 posted on 06/14/2013 6:48:36 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Westbrook
Bttt!!!!
Additional advice to those with kids, read some of John Taylor Gatto’s books and watch the video “Agenda : Grinding America Down “.
Your eyes will be opened.
26 posted on 06/14/2013 6:57:22 AM PDT by boxlunch (Psalm 2)
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To: Black Agnes
Is my kid better off with all that "stuff" if the other kids are all Honey Boo Boo?

In the environment I'm in, it's not "honey boo boo" that's a problem; it's that kid who has already learned to fight, push, and scream when things don't go their way.

One of the cases that really touched my heart a few years ago was a pre-school class where a wonderful little four year old girl, neatly dressed, well groomed, polite, soft spoken, knew her numbers and letters at age 4 was forced to "learn" with an imtimidating thug-in-training. It was obvious that girl was so much better off with that 17(!) year old mom who dropped out of school to raise her than to put up with what her mom had to put up with while just trying to do the right thing when she was in school.

FWIW, I've come to think that all of the "stuff" is too much; it's over-stimulating. And in the long run, giving parents who might want to be responsible time off for someone to raise their kids while they take off sends the wrong message. JMHO

27 posted on 06/14/2013 7:27:17 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania

Being away from the 17yr old mom might be a good thing for that particular child.

Being around that particular child is NOT a good thing for MY child.

And the antibullying agenda had nothing to do with stopping the thugs. It had everything to do with grooming 5yr olds awareness of adult sexual behaviors.

It’s the baby mama babies and thugs that control the local school system. I don’t think sacrificing MY kids well being for the sake of some do-gooders conscience is a great idea!


28 posted on 06/14/2013 8:22:56 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Olog-hai

Years ago, the US Army tried to save a lot of money, by instead of buying German Shepard puppies that had been weaned by their mother and trained by professionals, to take newly born puppies and have them raised by MPs.

Of the 60 or so dogs, all were non-functional and put down, because the Army did not know that affectionate, physical stimulation is essential to neurological development in mammals.

The same applies to humans, but far more so, as humans develop much slower, *and* it is essential that they bond with both their mother and father. For only then do children develop on a “success” track of life. Children raised by a single parent are much more likely to be in a “survival” track, and thus have 60% greater odds of becoming criminal offenders.

This calls into question the very concept of regular pre-school, as opposed to intermittent baby sitting. By the age of four, children need to experience a little, intermittent separation from their parents and other family; but even by age five, when most enter kindergarten, many are still unready for such a broad change as being separated on a daily basis for several hours.

Do they experience negative psychological problems because of this? Unknown.

However, anecdotal experience indicates that children given nurturing from their parents and family longer before independence, are more likely to provide this same benefit to their family and offspring.

Furthermore, such families tend to cross-gender socialize their children more, so that boys and girls relate better to each other’s wants and needs. This is a big help to having stable families when they eventually establish relationships and have children.

Something that non-Hispanic white people are missing out on, resulting in children far less capable of having healthy marital relations.


29 posted on 06/14/2013 10:02:45 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Olog-hai
My wife and I starting teaching our children at birth - reading to them, playing with them, talking to them, showing them bright colored objects, etc. When they started moving around the house, we allowed them to explore, with supervision. When they were able to grasp a writing implement, we helped them to draw, color, etc. We taught them about shapes, colors, letters, numbers long before they were of kindergarten age. All four of our children graduated from high school. Two have attended college. One entered the Army straight out of high school. The fourth is a stay-at-home mom to her two daughters. None of them are living off the teat of the taxpayer.

Pre-school, if done correctly, is not a bad thing. However, Arne Duncan isn't caring about preparing young children for formal education. His interest in solely on indoctrination.

30 posted on 06/14/2013 11:02:50 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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