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(Commie-Soviet Mad Science) The Man Who Tried to Make Human-Ape Hybrids
IO9 ^ | June 14, 2013 | Esther Inglis-Arkell

Posted on 06/14/2013 8:37:29 PM PDT by DogByte6RER

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The man who tried to make human-ape hybrids

Ilya Ivanovich Ivanov was a gifted scientist, a dedicated conservationist, and a practical, grounded man who expanded everyone's understanding of animal husbandry. He also, for years, tried to make human-ape hybrids.

The post-revolution USSR was a nation that wanted to wholly embrace new technology and progressive science while reinforcing traditional nationalistic pride. It's no wonder that Ilya Ivanovic Ivanov fit right in. He was a biologist who wanted to split his talents evenly between innovation and preservation.

Ivanov got a lot of Soviet and international support because he'd been doing useful work for well over a decade when the revolutions came. In 1901, he'd set up a zoological station that examined exactly how animals, especially farm animals, reproduced. It's true that people had gotten the mechanics of the act down, but Ivanov studied the many hormones, processes, and secretions that went along with sex in order to see what exactly was necessary for conception. When he determined that all anyone really needed was a sperm and an egg, he found ways to extract, disinfect, and store animal semen. This might seem like a small thing, but much of the farming industry now runs using artificial insemination. Even during Ivanov's lifetime, millions of animals were selectively bred using these techniques.

And he wasn't just breeding farm animals. Ivanov used selective breeding and artificial insemination as techniques to preserve endangered species, such as the wisent - a kind of bison - and a local subspecies of horse. So when he did an occasional loony thing, like cross-species breeding solely to see what the results would be, he wasn't criticized. People just noted that zebras, donkeys, and horses could all interbreed. When, in 1910, at the World Congress of Zoologists, Ivanov described the idea of using artificial insemination to create human-chimpanzee hybrids to an auditorium full of what must have been some very uncomfortable scientists, some people actually were supportive.

In fact, in 1924, Ivanov obtained the support of Nikolai Petrovich Gorbunov, the head of the Department of Scientific Institutions, and started traveling around the world to find subjects for exactly this type of experiment. It was relatively hard to obtain chimpanzees of any kind, and so Ivanov made quite a few failed trips before finally capturing a wild group of thirteen female chimpanzees to bring back to a primate research facility at Sukhumi. The female chimpanzees were repeatedly injected with human male sperm, but none became pregnant. (It was rumored that Ivanov used his own sperm or that of his son, but few people believe it.)

In 1927, discouraged by his first efforts, Ivanov put together a plan to inject male chimpanzee sperm into human female volunteers. He said they would need no less than five female volunteers, and that these volunteers would have to stay in isolation for a time to ensure no risk of impregnation by actual human males. It was at this time that rumors started leaking out about the experiments, though most were dismissed as too ghoulish to be believed. The rumors might have hampered Ivanov's efforts to obtain a male adult chimpanzee. He was still waiting for one in 1930, when the political mood turned against him. He was arrested and sent to what is now Kazakhstan to work at a veterinary station until he died of a stroke two years later. Some say that at least one woman was injected with chimpanzee sperm, but that no pregnancy resulted. This, however, is another rumor.

The Sukhumi primate research center survived the political fiasco, and continued to operate into the 2000s. Unfortunately, lack of repair led to multiple break-outs of primates. Locals in the area report seeing monkeys in the trees. Some monkeys may even have been the descendants of those early experiments.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Miscellaneous; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: apes; chimpanzee; chimpanzees; commies; communism; crossbreeding; damndirtyape; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; hybrid; marxism; monkeys; planetoftheapes; progressivism; russia; ussr; weirdscience
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D@mn you all to hell!

1 posted on 06/14/2013 8:37:29 PM PDT by DogByte6RER
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2 posted on 06/14/2013 8:40:08 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

There are a lot of crazy Russian experiments...some actually paid off...most didn’t.

If you dig into the Chernobyle accident, you eventually discover that too...was an experiment...over the diesel engine that would commonly be used to bring the plant down to a stable non-op situation when the recommended maintenance had to occur. Few newspapers ever bring this, or grasp why a diesel engine experiment was the cause for the nuclear accident. Just a crazy experiment...approved at national level.


3 posted on 06/14/2013 8:43:36 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

Let me guess....

He was boinking the apes?


4 posted on 06/14/2013 8:46:38 PM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: DogByte6RER
I saw this story on the Science Channel's "Dark Matters" with John Noble.

Here it is:

Twisted But True: Ape Human Hybrid

5 posted on 06/14/2013 8:49:19 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks DogByte6RER.
The female chimpanzees were repeatedly injected with human male sperm, but none became pregnant... In 1927, discouraged by his first efforts, Ivanov put together a plan to inject male chimpanzee sperm into human female volunteers... in 1930, when the political mood turned against him. He was arrested and sent to what is now Kazakhstan to work at a veterinary station until he died of a stroke two years later. Some say that at least one woman was injected with chimpanzee sperm, but that no pregnancy resulted. This, however, is another rumor.
To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


6 posted on 06/14/2013 8:49:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Human/ape hybrids vote in Democratic precincts all over America.


7 posted on 06/14/2013 8:52:24 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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leonid brezhnev photo: l?deres comunistas  Erich Honecker (Alemanha Oriental) e Leonid Brezhnev (antiga Uni?o Sovi?tica). 316672_2475001995376_1262245423_32953064_1117526488_n.jpg The experiment apparently proceeded in 1979 as evidenced by this kiss between Soviet Premiere Leonid Brezhnev and East German General Secretary Erich Honecker. Which is the ape and which is the human? I cannot tell.
8 posted on 06/14/2013 8:54:44 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

Fortunately no one would try that today...


9 posted on 06/14/2013 8:54:59 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: DogByte6RER

“volunteers”
‘Get your hands off me you dirty ape!’


10 posted on 06/14/2013 8:56:15 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: pepsionice
ape and girl photo: chango ape-escape-bikini-clad-gorilla-girl.jpg Maybe ... this one paid off.
11 posted on 06/14/2013 9:01:20 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: pepsionice

Can you elaborate or post a link with the story? Sounds interesting.


12 posted on 06/14/2013 9:43:07 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: tumblindice

Yogi Berraski and Abe Vigodavitch, if you want their real names:
the love children of rooskis and hirsute Siberian simians.


13 posted on 06/14/2013 10:34:16 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Still Thinking

http://chemwiki.ucdavis.edu/Physical_Chemistry/Nuclear_Chemistry/Case_Studies/Chernobyl


14 posted on 06/14/2013 10:38:28 PM PDT by razorback-bert (I'm in shape. Round is a shape isn't it?)
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To: razorback-bert

Thank you!


15 posted on 06/14/2013 11:08:10 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: DogByte6RER

I remember watching a show about this. Some women actually died from the IVF of human/ape hybrids.


16 posted on 06/15/2013 12:50:23 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: DogByte6RER

17 posted on 06/15/2013 12:59:21 AM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: pepsionice

Do you have a link for that?


18 posted on 06/15/2013 1:05:18 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: DogByte6RER

19 posted on 06/15/2013 6:16:35 AM PDT by Rebelbase (1929-1950's, 20+years for full recovery. How long this time?)
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To: DogByte6RER; Revolting cat!
Perhaps they were successful...


20 posted on 06/15/2013 6:36:44 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Revolting cat!

21 posted on 06/15/2013 6:39:17 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: JoeProBono

Offensive,IMO.


22 posted on 06/15/2013 3:46:47 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: razorback-bert

Sounds like they let the C-team (night shift) play with the expensive toys and it didn’t work out well.


23 posted on 06/15/2013 5:08:53 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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