Skip to comments.Alien Planet Discovery a Puzzle -- Accepted Theory Says "It Can't Exist"
Posted on 06/14/2013 9:24:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
The astronomers made Hubble Space Telescope observations over a wide range of wavelengths from visible to near infrared and modeled the color and structure of the disk in a way that has not been done before. They found a deficit of disk material, or partial gap, at about 80 astronomical units (AU) (1 AU is the Earth/Sun distance). Their models indicate that the depression is about 20 AUs wide, just slightly wider than necessary for a planet-opening gap and consistent with a planet of between 6 and 28 Earth masses. The feature is seen at all wavelengths indicating it is structural and not a local compositional difference. The team believes the evidence is strong for planet formation causing the gap.
"TW Hydrae is between 5 and 10 million years old, and should be in the final throes of planet formation before its disk dissipates," remarked coauthor Alycia Weinberger of the Carnegie Institution and principal investigator of the observations. "It is surprising to find a planet only 5 to 10% of Jupiter's mass forming so far out since planets should form faster closer in. In all planet formation scenarios, it's difficult to make a low-mass planet far away from a low mass star."
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Image Credit: NASA, ESA, J. Debes (STScI), H. Jang-Condell (University of Wyoming), A. Weinberger (Carnegie Institution of Washington), A. Roberge (Goddard Space Flight Center), and G. Schneider (University of Arizona/Steward Observatory)
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Science knows everything. Until it doesn't.
I never heard anyone claim, “Science knows everything”.
The reason science exists is so one day we can know everything. As apposed to say...Ignorant superstition.
Perhaps the people who inhabit this planet have figured out how to adjust their orbital distance from what it was in the beginning, perhaps to evade asteroids , or to compensate for global warming of their planet
Puzzled by the silence from their colony, a starship crew led by Lt. Frank Drebin travels to the planet.
“Surely this dilemma ... “ “Don’t call me Shirley,” barked the intrepid etc.
Maybe it’s not even a planet, maybe it’s a giant spacecraft. :’)
Captured rogue planet.
If you go to Reddit, you will see claims like this all over the place. And if you go on Facebook you may actually see that one of your 'friends' belong to a group called "I F--king Love Science"--I kid you not. It is their religion. And they use it as if to disprove Christianity, their real target.
In English please
A competent scientist is extremely aware of the severe limitations of his knowledge. The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
The science is settled, until it’s unsettled.
Yep - I read a Dean Koontz novel last week and one of the characters, a mathematics specialist, made a statement after talking about how theories are constantly being changed and updated: "When a scientist states that the science is settled, he stops being a scientist and becomes an evangelist."
I found it to be apropos.
Monsters from the ID.
Well then the theory is wrong, you idiots!
“As apposed to say...Ignorant superstition.”
apposed means ‘like’, or the same, or the ‘opposite of the opposite’.
You just equated science with ignorant superstition, which would be appropriate in the case of say, climate science or evolution.
I should rephrase: "Science is infallible. Until it isn't."
It's a nice counterbalance to insisting that something that does not exist and has never demonstrated itself, does.
Theories are hard. Dogma is easy.
The way science works, is when you see something that violates theory, that means the theory is wrong and you need to figure out a new theory.
Well, it's the way it works outside of some fields like Climate Theory.
Binary systems are common. It could be that two proto-stars were orbiting each other, and then the inner one hit a critical point to become a star. The other is like Jupiter, a large might have been, orbiting far away.
Science is a method, not a body of knowledge, and knowledge is therefore not fixed and immutable.
Yes I have heard that we (our sun) might even have a binary, it just hasn’t been discovered yet
Sounds like we need to send spy satellites to check this out
Please...why attack when ignore is a better option?
If you go to Reddit, you will see claims like this all over the place. And if you go on Facebook you may actually see that one of your 'friends' belong to a group called "I F--king Love Science"--I kid you not.
One of my friends?
I've never been to Reddit or Facebook slick.
I understand sites you visit like facebook are for teens and easily led sheep. The feds and CIA indicated it's one of their best sources for roping dopes.
Once again, I never once heard anyone claim, Science knows everything.
I never heard anyone say that either.
I understand...Seems some of the comments from some people on this thread are about 9 cents short of a dime.
That's because it's been a built-in presumption for half a century.
I never ever heard anyone say that.
That's because it's been a built-in presumption for half a century.
Where did you get this?
I never heard anyone say or imply or presume "Science knows everything".
What kind of cowflop is that?
Ya send me a disjointed google link to more links?
So anyone who questions science is a "hater"?
Is that very scientific?
Have a nice day.
Just a suggestion. Hit the abuse button and start the thread over without all the generalizations.
My apologies to SunkenCiv. Just meant to toss in my .02 and be done with it.
What was I attacking? Besides blind ignorance.
My point is that there is a growing number of people, or sheeple, if you will, that are proclaiming themselves followers of "science". Just because you may not have heard about something doesn't mean it does not exist.
lol...Where do you get this jackball?
Ya think science is something new? Ya think there are science cults that instead of being religious fanatics, are cult like science followers and fanatics?
Where in tarnation are you getting this paintball?
And what do ya have against science? What's your real beef here?
Unless you listen to Algore and other GW nuts...
Real scientists will likely/mostly say "All I know is that we don't know everything" when pressed, but these internet trolls "hope and pray" each new discovery will, incrementally, disprove the existence of God.
So, in conclusion: I have NOTHING against science. I do seem have some issue with you. Because you seem to be a class 'A' bag of douche.
If you go to Reddit, you will see claims like this all over the place.
Once again, just for you, I've never heard anyone, anywhere make this claim.
There are sub-cultures that have a hostility towards religion and use the broader term "science" to dismiss religion. They evangelistically push their concept of "science" to various degrees of obnoxiousness. Real scientists will likely/mostly say "All I know is that we don't know everything" when pressed, but these internet trolls "hope and pray" each new discovery will, incrementally, disprove the existence of God.
So, in conclusion: I have NOTHING against science.
Now I understand your motives and comments...... Someone somewhere said something about religion which made you hysterical and angry!
Turns out you're not angry with science or scientist, you're angry at those who have issues with religion and don't believe what you believe....lol
Don't know what this all has to do with this article, but your comments and motives are now very clear.
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