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Key players, Gore, are giving up: they canít control the climate
JoNova ^ | June 17th, 2013 | Joanne

Posted on 06/16/2013 2:12:06 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

IIn history studies of the Great Global Warming Scare, people will ask, is this the bargaining stage or the start of acceptance?

Adapting to _ not just fighting _ climate change is taking the heat out of global warming talk

Seth Borenstein for The Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) — Efforts to curb global warming have quietly shifted as greenhouse gases inexorably rise.

The conversation is no longer solely about how to save the planet by cutting carbon emissions. It’s becoming more about how to save ourselves from the warming planet’s wild weather. — Newsdaily

On the five stages of  grief, this is partly acceptance, but mostly it’s bargaining. Fans of Man-Made Global Warming are realizing they can’t have Deity Status — where they manage global financial markets and play God with the weather. Instead they hope they can still play hero, and direct less financially lucrative projects. They just want to hold back the tides, that sort of stuff.

It was Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s announcement last week of an ambitious plan to stave off New York City’s rising seas with flood gates, levees and more that brought this transition into full focus.

After years of losing the fight against rising global emissions of heat-trapping gases, governments around the world are emphasizing what a U.N. Foundation scientific report calls “managing the unavoidable.” — Newsdaily

So we finally get the first hints of acceptance on the big economic aims — this is the first recognition from key players that reducing emissions, setting up markets and global deals might not work. Don’t underestimate how important this is, it’s a big step because this was where the money always was — the $176b carbon market, and the $257b renewables investment market. The mitigation barrell is large because it carries the renewables like wind and solar too. It’s global. Building levee’s is not.

Al Gore says “I was wrong” (a bit)

Adaption is very much a second-best option. It was never the main aim at all. Al Gore didn’t want us to go there. He saw it as a cop out. Now he says “I was wrong” — Adapting is just as important as mitigation.

In his 1992 book “Earth in the Balance,” Gore compared talk of adapting to climate change to laziness that would distract from necessary efforts.

But in his 2013 book “The Future,” Gore writes bluntly: “I was wrong.” He talks about how coping with rising seas and temperatures is just as important as trying to prevent global warming by cutting emissions.

This article coincidentally wins the prize for the silliest justification for a big money program I have ever seen. Mayor Bloomberg says we should spend $20b on any old problem: real, unreal, imaginary, ludicrous. Whatever.

“Whether you believe climate change is real or not is beside the point,” New York’s Bloomberg said in announcing his $20 billion adaptation plans. “The bottom line is: We can’t run the risk.”

The risk of what exactly? One day our sun will turn into a red giant and incinerate the planet. Whether you believe it is real or not, is “beside the point”. We need that solar deflection shield. (Spend now, spend later, give me your money.) The Bloomberg line neutralizes every excuse. Why count? The numbers — the time — the degrees — the cost, it’s all “beside the point”.

So this news article is the ra-ra small-shift-coming “nothing to see here” marketing view. Borenstein hopes we won’t notice their disguised admission that 225,000 windmills won’t make a jot of difference. It doesn’t admit that all the costly emission schemes were wasted money.  It is still in denial about the science (still at stage one). Where is the evidence?

This approach is just trying to save face and salvage something from the ruins. But the global ambitions have come crashing back to Earth. Adapting is a “local” thing.

Now officials are merging efforts by emergency managers to prepare for natural disasters with those of officials focused on climate change. That greatly lessens the political debate about human-caused global warming, said University of Colorado science and disaster policy professor Roger Pielke Jr.

It also makes the issue more local than national or international.

“If you keep the discussion focused on impacts … I think it’s pretty easy to get people from all political persuasions,” said Pielke, who often has clashed with environmentalists over global warming. “It’s insurance. The good news is that we know insurance is going to pay off again.”

No Roger, bless you, but we don’t know the insurance will pay off. The climate models are broken, and we might as well spit green peas, blindfolded, at a map to figure out where the floods and droughts will occur. How does a sea-wall pay off if the sea keeps rising at next-to-nothing each year?

The insurance argument is the cop-out of those who don’t do the sums.

At least one scientist is preparing to ditch the “climate change” term.

Now the word is “resiliency”:

Describing these measures as resiliency and changing the way people talk about it make it more palatable than calling it climate change, said Hadi Dowlatabadi, a University of British Columbia climate scientist.

“It’s called a no-regrets strategy,” Dowlatabadi said. “It’s all branding.”

All that, experts say, is essentially taking some of the heat out of the global warming debate. – Newsdaily

In other words, the “climate change” brand is toxic. They admit they are losing the war “against emissions”. Basically, skeptics are winning.

Read it all at Newsdaily.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Science; Weather
KEYWORDS: carbon; climatechange; co2; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; greenhousegases

1 posted on 06/16/2013 2:12:06 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
It’s becoming more about how to save ourselves from the warming planet’s wild weather.

So they're moving from the "global warming" hoax to the "extreme weather" hoax.

Hoaxers gotta do what hoaxers gotta do.

2 posted on 06/16/2013 2:14:29 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (It is the deviants who are the bullies.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It was never about controlling the climate. It was about controlling people and getting rich trading in carbon credits.


3 posted on 06/16/2013 2:14:42 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Current weather is neither historically unprecedented, nor unusual
4 posted on 06/16/2013 2:16:29 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (It is the deviants who are the bullies.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

New Headline - “Key Players, Gore, giving up because the data suggest diminishing returns on their scam”


5 posted on 06/16/2013 2:17:22 PM PDT by nesnah
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

They give up. Does this mean we win, so now we get to control the climate?


6 posted on 06/16/2013 2:20:04 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ √ě)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thinking people can change the climate = arrogance


7 posted on 06/16/2013 2:21:21 PM PDT by molson209
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Here in California, we’ve had an extreme lack of weather for the last 25 years or so.

No summers at all, and very little winter.


8 posted on 06/16/2013 2:22:22 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

In all serious I said a long time ago(not on FR) to friends of mine that Al had a nervous breakdown sometime after the 2000 election and in an attempt to deal, or not deal with it, he latched on to ‘’global warming’’. He nearly lost his son in a car accident in ‘89 and then Tipper left him. The guy went around the bend. Maybe he’s finally coming out of it.


9 posted on 06/16/2013 2:23:57 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I'd have to disagree with your description of them:

Hoaxers Scammers gotta do what hoaxers scammers gotta do.

A hoax is generally a harmless prank; this is anything but harmless.

10 posted on 06/16/2013 2:26:11 PM PDT by Bob
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

But they’ve never grasped showing how living like a third world country and paying these minions would improve anything. While we sit and freeze or melt these bastards get rich beyond imaginations. Hard sell...


11 posted on 06/16/2013 2:26:46 PM PDT by poobear (Socialism in the minds of the elites, is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Well,...we need a BIG study to Explain that....


12 posted on 06/16/2013 2:26:56 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: jmacusa

Yeah, he latched on global warming to the tune of, what? $300 mill, made in a dozen years, about the same amount that it took Mick Jagger, for one, to accumulate in 45 years of hard work.

Bill Clinton is green with envy!


13 posted on 06/16/2013 2:27:29 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It’s moved from a global financial scam to PREVENT “climate change”, to a global financial scam to deal with the consequences of “climate change”.

Either way, the global power elite and their bankers and government minons get hundreds of billions to administer and line their pockets with.

Scam scam scam.


14 posted on 06/16/2013 2:29:21 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
It’s becoming more about how to save ourselves from the warming planet’s wild weather.

Al Gore already has the answer. Have a rich father, make a lot more money playing political games, build a big house in California with air conditioning and all the trimmings, and keep on loading up the bank account by giving speeches at megabucks a pop and toadying up to left wing billionaires, Communist dictators, and Arab Sheikhs.

Oh, and stroke the left wing press and Hollywood with whatever they want to hear.

15 posted on 06/16/2013 2:29:41 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: tacticalogic

exactly, carbon credits. And now, the game will be getting rich on mitigation projects, like Bloombergs 20 billion project for NYC.


16 posted on 06/16/2013 2:30:58 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: All; NormsRevenge
Thraed on the AP report:

Climate talk shifts from curbing CO2 to adapting ('how to save oneself from wild weather')

17 posted on 06/16/2013 2:34:22 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Cicero

And sell off an inherited oil company,, and grow tobacco,,, fly bizjets and drive SUVs everywhere. (as he gives us his assaholic lectures on how we are evil if we burn fuel.)


18 posted on 06/16/2013 2:35:27 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
It’s becoming more about how to save ourselves from the warming planet’s wild weather.

No, don't tell me. Let me take a wild guess ...

It involves huge sums of money.

How'd I do?

19 posted on 06/16/2013 2:37:57 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Cicero
Imagine the constant agenda if Gore had become president...global warming, climate ‘crisis’, carbon taxes, gas taxes, carbon credits, cap ‘n tax, oil shortages, buku useless windmills and solar panels, blah, blah, blah, 1,000X worse than anything we have now.
20 posted on 06/16/2013 2:42:28 PM PDT by JPG (Stay strong.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
So they're moving from the "global warming" hoax to the "extreme weather" hoax.

It's all about controlling the language to present their ideas on favorable/digestible terms.

Global Cooling -> Global Warming -> Climate Change and now to "Extreme Weather" (with "Global Dimming" thrown in for a short time). To adjust for the fact that each overhyped 'trend' could be refuted by people using their Mk.1 eyeballs.

Same thing happened with the word "Liberal". It was co-opted away from it's "Classical" positive meaning to describe statist policies and government. When those policies fell out of favor (taking down the term "Liberal" with it), they (Liberal Statists) turned instead to the old term "Progressive" (which had fallen out of favor decades before and had fallen into such disuse that it was easy to rehabilitate.

I really wish outside would be a little more "progressive" (vice "reactionary") and start taking command of the language ourselves. "Statist" is much more appropriate a term than either "Liberal" or "Progressive".

When it comes to Global Warming ... well, continued use of the term in the face of contrary evidence (and near-panic'd attempts to change to "Climate Change" or "Extreme Weather") actually argues for the retention of the term. Just stated in a very sarcastic way. "Liars" works just as well tho ...
21 posted on 06/16/2013 2:47:03 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Gore giving up? The guy made over $100 million on this man made global warming hoax. Nice gig if you can get it...


22 posted on 06/16/2013 2:51:56 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Wake up Californians. While you have been sleeping, “climate change” has altered your whole state government. State agencies now have new missions and new relationships with each other. Regional government has been instituted under transportation, integrated regional water, and COG’s for sustainable communities.

They have almost eliminated local elected government through unelected regional councils and managed to assert control over private property for reallocation under public trust, social equity, “environmental water,” sustainable communities, biodiversity corridors etc.

Next on the agenda are standardized General Plan elements dictated by the state agencies for all counties. Then there will be the “public goods charges” where users of privately owned resources will pay a tax for the harm they inflict on the environment, the impact on public “ecosystem services” caused by economic exploitation and the value added tax. You think you own property? Not in CA. You think they have bled the turnip and regulated businesses to death? You ain’t seen nothing yet.


23 posted on 06/16/2013 2:56:08 PM PDT by marsh2
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To: tacticalogic

Yep. The former Veep bastard made his millions and is laughing all the way to the bank and back again.


24 posted on 06/16/2013 2:59:40 PM PDT by Rebelbase (1929-1950's, 20+years for full recovery. How long this time?)
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To: nesnah
giving up because the data suggest diminishing returns on their scam

That's it! Watch Gore et al go into construction to cash in on the climate-change-mitigation-boom.

25 posted on 06/16/2013 3:02:04 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Don't try to explain yourself to liberals; you're not the jackass-whisperer.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Maybe, in a billion years or so, we will be able to control the sun. Until then, why bother.


26 posted on 06/16/2013 3:44:00 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Paging Mr. Stone..... Paging Mr. Stone...... Your masseuse is ready in Room 3!!!!!


27 posted on 06/16/2013 3:53:09 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey NSA Goon watching FR... Suck this - > |=====>)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Ernest.


28 posted on 06/16/2013 4:09:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

hebetrayedthiscountryheplayedonourfears.


29 posted on 06/16/2013 4:50:12 PM PDT by schm0e ("we are in the midst of a coup.")
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To: tacticalogic
It was never about controlling the climate. It was about controlling people and getting rich trading in carbon credits.

Ding, ding, ding we have a thread winnah!

30 posted on 06/16/2013 5:13:50 PM PDT by GOPJ (Why don't Democrats waste their time trying to win the votes of gun owners? - Coulter)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

They lost their funding.


31 posted on 06/16/2013 5:15:51 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

They have made their millions off of the hoax and now they are backing off to enjoy the fruits of their labor!


32 posted on 06/16/2013 5:16:31 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: tacticalogic

Bingo!


33 posted on 06/16/2013 5:17:55 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

After Hurricane Katrina we were told that Global Warming was causing us to experience more and more extreme hurricanes. The problem was it didn’t happen. Instead we have had a remarkably long period of no extreme hurricanes hitting the US coast.

Now whenever we have even a mild hurricane hit we are told it is Armageddon.

Weather happens. We have always had droughts and floods and we always will.


34 posted on 06/16/2013 6:33:29 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I’m sure that he will find another cross to bear and Progressive lunatics to support him .... sort of like lawyers, if there isn’t anything to litigate, they’ll create something.


35 posted on 06/16/2013 7:15:15 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (UN Secretary General Barki-At-Moon says, "Save the planet - eat more bugs"!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

A little harder to defend when we should be under 50 feet of water with beaches in the Smokie Mountains.


36 posted on 06/16/2013 7:17:06 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (UN Secretary General Barki-At-Moon says, "Save the planet - eat more bugs"!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Lately climate change is uncertain. The weather forecast is not much effect. This become our responsibility because we live in one earth. Carbon emission is an important cause. Another cause of climate change should also be considered.


37 posted on 06/17/2013 12:38:06 AM PDT by pederosa
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It should be noted for the record: nearly everywhere Pope Al Gore, Church of Global Warming (aka Climate Change) goes, record subzero cold and blizzards follow. Why is that? I thought we were all going to be cooked by now.


38 posted on 06/17/2013 1:23:01 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: jmacusa
Agreed: Al Gore lost it when he lost the White House.

His reaction? Stick it to the people who rejected him for President by scamming them with AGW (and making OBSCENE money in the process.)

39 posted on 06/17/2013 9:09:30 AM PDT by doberville
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To: doberville

Yeah. And what was up with the beard thing?


40 posted on 06/17/2013 12:09:14 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: pederosa

Um, I don’t understand. Maybe you could expand on your thoughts and share with all of us?

Pretty please...?


41 posted on 06/17/2013 12:17:43 PM PDT by saleman
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