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Bullying Among Siblings — Not as Harmless as We Think (OMG, they're after our families)
ABC News ^ | Jun 17, 2013 | ABC News

Posted on 06/17/2013 7:14:17 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear

I've had about ENOUGH about the bullies at school. Taught my kids to FIGHT as long as they don't start it. But they've really 'jumped the shark' on this one. I guess we can expect 'gov intervention' on this? Seriously?

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1 posted on 06/17/2013 7:14:18 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

LOL my sister was brutal. I learned early on not to screw with her.

When we were teenagers I did something to make her mad and I came home in the middle of the night and found 6 goats locked in my bedroom. (I had a walkout basement bedroom)


2 posted on 06/17/2013 7:17:15 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

They have been coming after our children for years.


3 posted on 06/17/2013 7:19:48 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: cripplecreek

My brother used to pin me down, sit on my face, and fart. That’s just for starters! I have sooooooo many stories. Made me tough! Which is WHY they want this to end!!!!!

YOU HAVE TO LEARN TO FIGHT!!!!

I’ve already told my kids that they will not be socially engineered. Period!


4 posted on 06/17/2013 7:22:50 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

The rules, according to my parents, were 1. Work it out between yourselves. 2) don’t tattle (see rule 1). 3. If you do tattle, expect equal punishment (see rule 1).

I know this sounds extreme, but it worked. Yes, my brother gave me “ Indian burns” and tortured me in many ways...I paid him back by tagging along everywhere he went..LOL!

I adored him until the day he died, I think fondly of those times he “bullied” me. It’s just part of life, of growing up.


5 posted on 06/17/2013 7:29:02 PM PDT by KittenClaws ( You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

My family has always been ruthless and tough. Its a good thing and I have plenty of fond memories.


6 posted on 06/17/2013 7:30:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

what about govenrment bulllying citizens and families? Is thaT covered too in the report?


7 posted on 06/17/2013 7:31:03 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: KittenClaws

[[I paid him back by tagging along everywhere he went..LOL!]]

Eeeeeek- the dreaded shadow- You monster- lol


8 posted on 06/17/2013 7:32:12 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: KittenClaws

Awesome story. Thanks for sharing that.


9 posted on 06/17/2013 7:32:55 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: KittenClaws

My sister used to poke me in the stomach after big meals like on thanksgiving and say “I can touch your spine”.


10 posted on 06/17/2013 7:38:04 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Whenever our parents weren’t around my older brother always beat me up and I never fought back. One day he was beating my head against the wall and I kicked him in the groin and when he bent over to wail in pain I raked my nails up and down his back and then I ran for my life after telling him if he ever touched me again I would kill him.

I meant it.

After we were adults he got mad at me and was going to hit me! I couldn’t believe it. I grabbed a 16 oz Coke in a glass bottle and told him I would hit him with it and when I was finished with him my husband would kick his arse.

Needless to say I haven’t kept a relationship with him at all since then.


11 posted on 06/17/2013 7:38:10 PM PDT by tiki
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To: CottShop

Eeeeeek- the dreaded shadow- You monster- lol


LOL! I usually wanted to tag along because of all his good looking buddies - which was the reason he didn’t want me tagging along. He knew his friends better than I did.


12 posted on 06/17/2013 7:38:30 PM PDT by KittenClaws ( You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

The US Army came into my mother`s bar early during the Vietnam War to talk about about a local young man who volunteered. [He used to start big bar brawls with everyone in the bar when he was young]
The Army asked my Mom “What is your statement concerning this man since he gave you as a reference?” My Mom said, Well, he`s good with his fists.” They said “ That`s all we have to know!”
He fought in Vietnam and was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor for protecting his men from atop an armored vehicle while firing a machinegun from the hip exposed to enemy fire- killing 28 Vietcong and saving his men.


13 posted on 06/17/2013 7:40:50 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.))
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Only child, torturous siblings. Whatever the case, childhood is a bitch.


14 posted on 06/17/2013 7:41:53 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I remember the last time my younger brother and I had a fight. I really had to hurt him to win, and I knew that wasn’t going to happen the next time.


15 posted on 06/17/2013 7:41:58 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
It’s a joy remembering them.

On one tag along, to a ranch for trail riding. He and a friend-in-crime paired me (without my knowledge)’ with a cuttin’ horse.

On a cliff side trail in the redwoods, I barely moved that reign to the left and that horse turned a 180’ so that I was facing one way and he the other...ROFLOL!,,, then he went barreling back to the ranch, me hanging on for my life...

Served me right!

16 posted on 06/17/2013 7:43:36 PM PDT by KittenClaws ( You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Bubba government, the biggest bully of them all, is going to protect us from bullies.


17 posted on 06/17/2013 7:45:46 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (People with religious faith in government are far crazier than people with religious faith in God.)
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To: cripplecreek

Good one!

That reminds me of when I was young and the worse thing I could think to call my brother in anger was “ Buddy Bellybutton”

LOL! It pissed him off at thirteen and at thirty LOL!


18 posted on 06/17/2013 7:45:54 PM PDT by KittenClaws ( You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: KittenClaws

[[which was the reason he didn’t want me tagging along. He knew his friends better than I did.]]

He was watchign otu for you- I wouldn’t have wanted my firends dating my sister either- they were no good brutes-


19 posted on 06/17/2013 7:46:09 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: tiki

Well, now that just sounds dysfunctional.

My husband had a family like that. I am so sorry for you.

Behavior like that is learned. Love between siblings is also learned.

Kind of like your parents not taking sides or making you apologize to the other even if you don’t mean it...some parents, well, they lack that skill.


20 posted on 06/17/2013 7:49:26 PM PDT by KittenClaws ( You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Well finally that topic is popping up. My brother and I were 13 years apart. He just wasn’t a bully but an abuser. At the age of 10 I did not think I would live beyond 15 that bad. Reading the post many of yours sounds like little brothers and sisters approx. near the same age fighting which is normal. Not mine, sometimes I would get confuse who in hell is my father. Since my brother did all the disciplining. I was told by him since father is gone he will take over as the man of the house. My mother ignored my cries only to tell me years later that she thought we were playing and I told her NO. Didn’t she hear me scream and cry out? Well that is in the past - somewhat. Today he is in his late 50’s and all I can say I can’t stand being in the same room with him, and he knows that. He told me once that I was afraid of him and that is true. His lose not mine.


21 posted on 06/17/2013 7:50:10 PM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: cripplecreek

LOL


22 posted on 06/17/2013 7:51:22 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

“Researchers at the University of New Hampshire conducted more than 3,500 telephone interviews with children and teenagers (an adult caregiver was interviewed if the child was younger than 10). The researchers asked these kids whether they had experienced physical assault, property damage or “psychological aggression” - in other words, name calling, meanness and ostracism.”

Physical assault? Really? Is that what they are calling it? Then they advise the parents to seek professional intervention. At that point, the dr asks “do you have any firearms in the home?”

Next day..knock, knock...


23 posted on 06/17/2013 7:56:49 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: CottShop

He was watchign otu for you- I wouldn’t have wanted my firends dating my sister either- they were no good brutes


He was watching out for me. But he enjoyed it a bit too much. We didn’t have our dad during our teen years, so buddy took up the role.

You know, none of my boyfriends would take me “parking”, at the drive-in we watched the damn movie...I couldn’t indulge in illicit drugs, nor alcohol ...he gave all those boys a “talk” and none of them would reveal what he said....

Pissed me off back then, but I’m grateful now. I had the best brother in the world. May God rest his good soul.


24 posted on 06/17/2013 7:57:17 PM PDT by KittenClaws ( You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

It’s not always harmless. You won’t hear much about it but there are some older brothers who take advantage of younger sisters. It causes long term damage.


25 posted on 06/17/2013 7:58:38 PM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: ladyjane

Yes, but that is not what they are referring to here.


26 posted on 06/17/2013 8:00:18 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
YOU HAVE TO LEARN TO FIGHT!!!!

Dad bought my brother and I boxing gloves when we were very little. Highly recommended for raising boys.

27 posted on 06/17/2013 8:01:33 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

My older brother was a bully. It was left unchecked. He ended up getting arrested & convicted for the kind of behavior that went unreported in my family. Of course, none of my siblings wanted him anywhere near their children. But at the time, well, it was my problem to deal with. What a crock of bull shiite.


28 posted on 06/17/2013 8:01:52 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I grew up with 3 older sisters. They didn’t really bully me per se, but outvoted me on important matters like being able to watch I Dream of Jeanie. Eventually I got big enough, and one day I turned on them and suddenly I could have a say in those critical decisions.


29 posted on 06/17/2013 8:07:02 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: bunkerhill7

Wow. He is who they are reeeeeeeaaally afraid of. Hence, the downfall of generals.


30 posted on 06/17/2013 8:07:28 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
The kicker from the article:

Mallett added that parents should not hesitate to seek advice from child and adolescent psychiatrists or pediatricians regarding the needs of the bullied child — as well as that of the bully — since both children may benefit from professional intervention.

So, basically, put your kids into therapy. Where they'll be diagnosed with a mental illness. Requiring them to be put onto meds. Which will be dumped into an ObamaCare database. So they can be tracked for the rest of their lives. And denied ownership of firearms ...
31 posted on 06/17/2013 8:08:44 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I think some may have experienced extremes, here, as I have with a sibling. Abuse...mother who was co-dependent and excused his behavior, awarded him the fam business....only for him to rob us blind and go bankrupt....leaving us BROKE after living an extravagant lifestyle.

HOWEVER.........

What I DON’T agree with is the government becoming involved. They would perceive innocent banter to absolute abuse. It’s just ANOTHER way for them to get their foot in the door.

Justified abuse is one thing. But look at how they are pushing the envelope It’s always OTT.


32 posted on 06/17/2013 8:11:03 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: tanknetter

BINGO!!!!


33 posted on 06/17/2013 8:12:52 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear; KnutKase

Me, my brother, and my sister ... yeah, we fought like cats and dogs. Good times!


34 posted on 06/17/2013 8:12:58 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I tortured my brothers with my verbal abuse until they wanted to kill me. Got beat but never bruised (don’t know why). Arguing teaches you how to resolve conflicts. They don’t want you to resolve a conflict. They just want total submission.


35 posted on 06/17/2013 8:13:14 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: KittenClaws

I don’t agree that sadism, tormenting and violence are “part of life” or normal among siblings - quite the contrary - and I think you might be doing what the psychiatrist Eric Berne called “doesn’t everyone?..”


36 posted on 06/17/2013 8:15:48 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Patriot Babe

My husband family has this dynamic. It’s too complicated to post, but , if you need a friend, FReepMail me.


37 posted on 06/17/2013 8:16:20 PM PDT by KittenClaws ( You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

When my younger son was in the 6th grade I confronted his teacher and had him dismissed from having to discuss a gay themed bullying book project.

She was flabbergasted when I told her he had my permission to knock the snot out of anyone who ever bullied him and that I’d knock the snot out of him if he ever bullied anybody.


38 posted on 06/17/2013 8:20:45 PM PDT by Rebelbase (1929-1950's, 20+years for full recovery. How long this time?)
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To: kabumpo
I don't think it's normal to call a normal brother-sister relationship sadism, or tormenting or violence.

In fact, I believe those whose only experience is dysfunction, must believe everyone else is dysfunctional as well.

The proof is in the pudding, you know? I like myself, I loved my brother, he loved me..that has been proven to MY satisfaction...your opinion must be clouded by a dysfunctional family experienced.

How sad for you.

39 posted on 06/17/2013 8:22:34 PM PDT by KittenClaws ( You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Rebelbase

She was flabbergasted when I told her he had my permission to knock the snot out of anyone who ever bullied him and that I’d knock the snot out of him if he ever bullied anybody


Now that’s some darn good parenting!


40 posted on 06/17/2013 8:26:51 PM PDT by KittenClaws ( You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: KittenClaws

[[but I’m grateful now. I had the best brother in the world. May God rest his good soul.]]

sorry to hear he’s gone- sounded liek a god brother


41 posted on 06/17/2013 8:37:57 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear; kabumpo

I think some may have experienced extremes, here, as I have with a sibling. Abuse...mother who was co-dependent and excused his behavior, awarded him the fam business....only for him to rob us blind and go bankrupt....leaving us BROKE after living an extravagant lifestyle.

HOWEVER.........

What I DON’T agree with is the government becoming involved. They would perceive innocent banter to absolute abuse. It’s just ANOTHER way for them to get their foot in the door.

Justified abuse is one thing. But look at how they are pushing the envelope It’s always OTT.


And that’s it in a nutshell. The government can not tell the difference between a gun and a pop tart...so they want to psychoanalyze sibling relationships?

Hell, we even have some on here who think a normal sibling relationship is destined for the psychiatric couch...


42 posted on 06/17/2013 8:46:11 PM PDT by KittenClaws ( You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: cripplecreek
LOL!

Did she call you turd?


43 posted on 06/17/2013 8:47:30 PM PDT by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
Sorry but the fist thing I thought about was "Chet" from Weird Science".


44 posted on 06/17/2013 8:53:28 PM PDT by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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To: KittenClaws

You are making up a very, very strange story about me and my family, based on no data whatsoever. A complete projection. How Dem of you.
What you described as normal is not, in my experience. I have seen that kind of behavior in families, and I find it aberrant and unpleasant. Keep on with your “didn’t everyone” if it makes you feel better.


45 posted on 06/17/2013 8:53:46 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I am the youngest of 8 children. My Mom worked, while my dad worked on my sisters. I was too young to know what was going on at the time though, but God eventually intervened and my father went to prison for incest when I was 7.

Other than what they went through, my childhood was one of being ruled by 4 older sister who beat it into me that women are victims and I was to treat them like ladies. All the while my 3 oldest brothers beat it into me that I will either learn to fight or be beat down by the world.

I dropped out at 15, joined the traveling carnival at 16, and the army at 17 and turned my back on my family. I have been home three times since I left in “72”. It took many years to learn to love them again. Even to this day I am estranged from them, and I am considered the weird black sheep of the family. The wacko right wing Christian conservative nut.

Somewhere along the way I met Christ, and he taught me that not all men are evil, and not all women are victims. I learned to discern between the two, and how to love those I had grown to hate.

Today I pray for them everyday, but still have little to do with them. My oldest sister was murdered, my oldest brother became a drunk on skid-row and died of stomach and liver cancer. I have another sister, whom I actually talk to on the phone from time to time who is a devout Catholic, and a teacher in San Diego. I have a brother who is a devout Socialist who loves Obama, and another brother who thinks he is god’s gift to women, even though he is married with two adult boys, and two sister whop live in Arizona I have not spoken to in 18 years.

Both my parents have since died. My mom is in heaven, and only god knows if my father made it, but considering he denied raping my sisters for all those years, I seriously doubt it. However, even the thief on the cross made it in by the skin of his teeth.

Childhood problems can last a lifetime sometimes.

However as bad as things were for me in my childhood, there are millions of children being raised in decent homes. That being said, if I had my choice of who should control my childhood, I think I would take my chance with flawed parents over a flawed government any day of the week.


46 posted on 06/17/2013 9:01:12 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: tiki

sounds like what he did to you wasn’t sibling rough-housing, not at all.


47 posted on 06/17/2013 9:05:04 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: kabumpo

I have made up no strange story about your family. Keep projecting and judging by your limited experience, if it makes you feel better. What are you, some psych major at a junior college or something?

BTW, if you don’t want to be judged, then don’t indulge in judgement yourself. You don’t know me, you don’t know my brother, and I find your analysis elitist and...WRONG. Because you are WRONG.


48 posted on 06/17/2013 9:06:59 PM PDT by KittenClaws ( You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: tanknetter

see a shrink, lose your 2a. this is how they will disarm your kids.


49 posted on 06/17/2013 9:07:14 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: kabumpo

Sadism?

Violence?

Whoooooooooooooooooooo boy. I won’t tell ANY stories about we all did to one another as kids. And, other than the oldest who’s now a flaming liberal...we DO get along VERY well as adults!

Sadism???


50 posted on 06/17/2013 9:28:47 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Psalm 83)
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