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Archeologists revise image of ancient Celts
DW ^ | 1-19-2013 | Richard A. Fuchs

Posted on 06/17/2013 7:16:28 PM PDT by Islander7

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"There's also a bit of propaganda involved, since the Celts conquered Rome in the year 387 B.C., so they couldn't have been so primitive," Krausse explained. The findings at the Heuneburg near Hundersingen also indicate that the Celts living in the upper Danube region were more advanced than previously thought.
1 posted on 06/17/2013 7:16:28 PM PDT by Islander7
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To: SunkenCiv

ping


2 posted on 06/17/2013 7:16:50 PM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: Islander7

does this mean i have to stop painting myself blue and runnin nekked thru the forest


3 posted on 06/17/2013 7:20:58 PM PDT by bigheadfred (barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: Islander7

So glad they gave us green beer...


4 posted on 06/17/2013 7:25:30 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Islander7
How does that work?

"Because the Goths conquered Rome in A.D. 410, they couldn't have been so primitive."

"Because the Vandals captured Rome in A.D. 455, they couldn't have been so primitive."

"Because the Carthaginians were unable to capture Rome, they must have been pretty primitive."

5 posted on 06/17/2013 7:29:44 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Islander7

After they defeated Rome all the Celts gathered in the Forum and danced without moving their upper bodies.


6 posted on 06/17/2013 7:31:26 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Islander7

7 posted on 06/17/2013 7:31:45 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: Islander7

Being Celtic, I will tell you the Celts have always told the truth about themselves. It is the rest of the world that refuses to hear it.


8 posted on 06/17/2013 7:32:42 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: JoeProBono

where did you get my daughter’s picture???


9 posted on 06/17/2013 7:33:34 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: JoeProBono

never had occasion to wish I was a horse, before.


10 posted on 06/17/2013 7:37:00 PM PDT by schm0e ("we are in the midst of a coup.")
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To: JoeProBono

Reminds me of Grace O’Malley, which just happens to be my daughter’s name.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_o%27malley


11 posted on 06/17/2013 7:50:19 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: bigheadfred

Not on my account.


12 posted on 06/17/2013 7:54:28 PM PDT by Salamander (Über Alice!)
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To: Nifster
Some of us just moved up to more 'horses"


13 posted on 06/17/2013 7:56:38 PM PDT by Salamander (Über Alice!)
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To: Nifster

All those tats make me wonder who owns “your daughter”. :P


14 posted on 06/17/2013 7:57:32 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Kevmo

15 posted on 06/17/2013 7:58:47 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: Salamander

i did run through the forest nekked and not painted blue once some of us went up to sit in a hotpool inside Yellowstone there were people there and then another couple showed up and got in no one was paying any attention but they got out after a short stay put their Park Ranger uniforms on and said you are all under arrest


16 posted on 06/17/2013 8:01:42 PM PDT by bigheadfred (barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: JoeProBono

Is that the one they call “the Princess?” or just a statue.


17 posted on 06/17/2013 8:07:53 PM PDT by caww
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To: Islander7
"There's also a bit of propaganda involved, since the Celts conquered Rome in the year 387 B.C., so they couldn't have been so primitive," Krausse explained.

Well, they were by comparison, which was sort of what the whole thing was about. They said so themselves. On the other hand, when they got tired of the smell of corpses in Rome (they stayed for three months) they gathered Roman gold and crossed the Adriatic and conquered a good bit of that area as well. Marvelous mercenaries, and would be for another five hundred years or so.

What is not yet entirely realized is the extent of international trade at the time. The fact that Spanish artifacts turned up in this dig is one example of this. If the Celts were after gold in Rome, why? Because it was pretty? No, because it was tradeworthy. What Julius Caesar would conquer in the Gallic wars three centuries later was a civilization, not a confederation of tribes, and Roman law overlaid on it would provide the basis for the Middle Ages.

Being of Celtic heritage myself I have a certain sympathy for the whole thing, except perhaps for the human sacrifice (which the Romans would still be at during the Punic Wars, and yes, two of their victims were Celtic, the others, Greek. They buried them alive. I'm sorry I took that course in Roman Civilization...) And when, in the end, they migrated to Boston and took up basketball, they started a whole new...wait, what?

18 posted on 06/17/2013 8:10:41 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Islander7

The Celts were indeed sophisticated and did well for quite a while. Stronger tribes eventually drove them west. Story of humanity—biggest stick wins the day. The Germanic peoples finally won out...and held on to their ground (mostly).


19 posted on 06/17/2013 8:18:18 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: caww

http://pat-mcdermott.blogspot.com/2010/10/most-feminine-sea-captain.html


20 posted on 06/17/2013 8:18:43 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: Billthedrill
Gold is a dense, soft, malleable, and ductile metal with a bright yellow color and luster that is considered attractive, which is maintained without tarnishing in air or water.
Chemically, gold is a transition metal and a group 11 element. It is one of the least reactive chemical elements, solid under standard conditions. The metal therefore occurs often in free elemental (native) form, as nuggets or grains in rocks, in veins and in alluvial deposits.
Gold resists attacks by individual acids, but it can be dissolved by the aqua regia (nitro-hydrochloric acid), so named because it dissolves gold. Gold also dissolves in alkaline solutions of cyanide, which have been used in mining. It dissolves in mercury, forming amalgam alloys; is insoluble in nitric acid, which dissolves silver and base metals, a property that has long been used to confirm the presence of gold in items, giving rise to the term acid test.

It's pretty and doesn't tarnish AT ALL. I don't wear gold on my old hands any more but I still wear gold earrings and around my neck a gold "Crusader" cross that I got in the Holy Land. I LOVE my cross.

21 posted on 06/17/2013 8:24:34 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Billthedrill

“And when, in the end, they migrated to Boston and took up basketball, they started a whole new...wait, what? “

and that boston tribe was most powerful when lead by Larrycus Birdium.


22 posted on 06/17/2013 8:25:49 PM PDT by Rebelbase (1929-1950's, 20+years for full recovery. How long this time?)
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To: Rebelbase

...and his great rival from the People of the Western Lakes, Magicus Johnsonicus. The two did battle in the arena and the crowd howled for blood.


23 posted on 06/17/2013 8:31:23 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Islander7
The Celts traveled a lot and they had a number of colonies throughout Europe.

They were the Galatians of St. Paul's Letters.

They also had a colony in N.E. Spain called Galacia and a colony on the Po River called Galatia in Poland.

24 posted on 06/17/2013 8:32:37 PM PDT by Slyfox (Without the Right to Life, all other rights are meaningless.)
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To: Islander7
The Galician (place in Spain, milesian homeland, settled in 700BC period, more or less, by Celts from this area on the Danube) records clearly note that they were not illiterate but that they used Greek for written communication and kept a good supply of Greek-writing slaves on hand.

The English have derided the Galician documents as total baloney ~ but yet, here are the people and there are the documents.

25 posted on 06/17/2013 8:41:50 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: bigheadfred
Different Celts ~ These folks are the ancestors of the Milesian people ~ the Celts who invaded Britain and reorganized it into a more orderly and productive society. Scota ~ aka Ireland ~ was the name of their chief Goddess. Later, Scota was transferred to Scotland and they renamed that smaller island after Ir.

All of this is covered in Galician portfolios (copies of which) have material dating back nearly 3,000 years.

26 posted on 06/17/2013 8:41:50 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: 2banana
So glad they gave us green beer...

Or any beer really.

27 posted on 06/17/2013 8:43:26 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: Islander7

Visit the Celts all you want but beware the wicker man.


28 posted on 06/17/2013 8:48:17 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: bigheadfred

The Woad Warrior?


29 posted on 06/17/2013 9:12:40 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: Islander7

Ancient Celts include Bill Russell and Bob Cousy....


30 posted on 06/17/2013 9:29:51 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: Rebelbase

Larrycus Birdium was part of the Celt 3rd Wave....


31 posted on 06/17/2013 9:31:49 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: Islander7

bookmark


32 posted on 06/17/2013 10:13:03 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Billthedrill
Marvelous mercenaries, and would be for another five hundred years or so.

Longer than that. The Gallowglass mercenaries were a mainstay of European armies well into the Renaissance period.

33 posted on 06/18/2013 1:06:50 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: Islander7; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Islander7.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


34 posted on 06/18/2013 3:31:10 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: JoeProBono

I will ride, I will fly
Chase the wind and touch the sky
I will fly, chase the wind
And touch the sky


35 posted on 06/18/2013 4:09:57 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (It's been over 90 days; time to start on 2014. Carpe GOP!)
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To: Islander7

bump


36 posted on 06/18/2013 4:10:22 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: ExGeeEye

Where dark woods hide secrets
And mountains are fierce and bold
Deep waters hold reflections
Of times lost long ago

I will hear their every story
Take hold of my own dream
Be as strong as the seas are stormy
And proud as an eagle’s scream


37 posted on 06/18/2013 4:43:27 AM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: Islander7

Saw the title and almost thought this was going to be a Doc Rivers-to-the-Clips thread.


38 posted on 06/18/2013 5:00:38 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Rodamala

Celtic women rode into battle with along side their men.....bare breasted and in full body paint


39 posted on 06/18/2013 5:50:05 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Verginius Rufus

Yeah, I wondered about that, too. They could be primitive and still be ferocious warriors who overwhelmed the Romans.


40 posted on 06/18/2013 6:22:19 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: donmeaker

yes oh woad is me


41 posted on 06/18/2013 6:22:56 AM PDT by bigheadfred (barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: Nifster

In comic books.


42 posted on 06/18/2013 6:26:07 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: bigheadfred

Back when Mel Gibson was playing William Wallace, we refered to the movie as the Woad Warrior, referencing his previous several post apocaliptic runs as “The Road Warrior”


43 posted on 06/18/2013 9:28:36 AM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: JoeProBono

Nice.

Where did you get that? Are there others?


44 posted on 06/18/2013 10:19:45 AM PDT by chesley (Vast deserts of political ignorance makes liberalism possible - James Lewis)
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To: JoeProBono

Lady Godiva

45 posted on 06/18/2013 10:38:14 AM PDT by blam
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To: Islander7
The Celts were long considered a ... violent society. But new findings from a 2,600-year-old grave in Germany suggest the ancient people were much more sophisticated than previously thought.

As if a society cannot be both violent and sophisticated.

Romans, Aztecs, medieval Japanese. Heck, medieval and modern Europeans.

With the ultimate example supported by Godwin's Law.

46 posted on 06/18/2013 10:55:00 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Bigg Red

in truth....learn about Boudica....or listen to the stories my family has passed down


47 posted on 06/18/2013 11:59:07 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

Your post to which I was responding said:

Celtic women rode into battle with along side their men.....bare breasted and in full body paint

&&&
Even if Boudica — and her daughters went into battle — that was most certainly the exception and not a common occurrence.

And, if a woman did ride into battle, it would not make any sense for her to be topless except to make a comic book more interesting to some.


48 posted on 06/18/2013 3:21:23 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: Bigg Red

you need to read some history


49 posted on 06/18/2013 5:26:35 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

Can you please direct me to a good source book? I am always willing to be educated and quite willing to admit that I am wrong.


50 posted on 06/19/2013 5:48:55 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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