Skip to comments.ĎNever heard of himí: Notable Columbia prof says he isnít sure Obama attended Columbia University
Posted on 06/18/2013 12:08:27 AM PDT by ransomnote
In a recent interview, a well-known professor who taught at Columbia University for 46 years questioned whether or not President Obama actually attended the Ivy League school.
Prominent Columbia professor Henry Graff says he isn't sure President Obama ever attended the Ivy League school.
I taught every significant politician that ever studied at Columbia, said Columbia Emeritus Professor of History Henry Graff, in an interview last week with Wayne Root, a contributor at The Blaze. Between American History and Diplomatic History, one way or another, they all had to come through my classes.
Not Obama, he continued. I never had a student with that name in any of my classes. I never met him, never saw him, never heard of him.
Graff alleged that none of the other Columbia professors knew him either and said he is very upset to hear Obama referred to as a graduate of Columbia University.
I am angry when I hear Obama called the first President of the United States from Columbia University, he said. I dont consider him a Columbia student. I have no idea what he did on the Columbia campus. No one knows him.
Graff is the recipient of the Kaul Foundation Award of Excellence in the field of education, an honor that is tied to a prize of $100,000. He is the author of multiple books and is known for teaching the first course on the history of the Presidency.
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WHEN is the MEDIA GOING TO COVER THIS???????
Is this Glenn’s bombshell??
Could be. Glenn is way past due on that.
No, this isn’t Glenn’s bombshell. This story has been out there for more than a week:
My guess as to Glenn’s bombshell: We will never know.
The more I see these stories, the more I believe everything about Zero is just all made up— everything. Photos of family and all.. He’s probally just a illegal alien that has someone else’s identity.. A legal citizen would have a legit Social Security number.. Even Someone that came here to be a citizen would have a legit SS#.. I Betcha he is a Illegal alien..
Why he is allowed to hold office of POTUS is what you should really be worried about.
Like sheep to the slaughter.
You mean this prof never saw a big eared idiot walking around with a teleprompter who is so geographically challenged he thinks America has 57 states?
The way he was crying about his family and how none of us are stepping up like he is, etc... I assume that story is as buried as the reason Justice Roberts changed his opinion on Obamacare.
I don’t think Obama went to Columbia either.
I spent a few hours search for scans of the graduation bulletins for the year he supposedly graduated. I couldn’t find one that listed him anywhere. Please note I am not talking about some list but the actual bulletin.
It would be interesting if someone in NYC spent some time in the Colombia library. I bet they have those on file, most universities keep copies in either paper or micro-form copies. Did he even appear on the list of graduates? If he did I cannot find it.
The other possibility is that at least at Occidental the Obamanation of Desolation used the last name Soetareo (sp?) to get aide as a foreign student leftist are amazingly dumb sometimes and most of them don’t know that name. There is also a chance that they do not think a conservative would do that and so are not expecting it. I wonder if a request from another university, maybe a small one some where for a transcript would be filled? As the people that make those request know though gaining the transcript under false pretense is a rather serious crime
Think any company would take that on ?
"If I knew you were coming, I'd have baked a cake..."
Are either of Roberts “friends” pictured the “other” dad to his kids?
Newsflash: I’m not sure President Hussein ever attended my small Ivy League school. I never saw or heard about him on my campus.
How about "Soreto"?
Isn’t it ironic that the law that protects Obama’s college records from the American people was written by one of the strongest conservatives ever to serve in the Senate, James Buckley of New York? And New Yorkers as quickly as they could removed Buckley from the Senate.
This story is at least a year old.
The 2012 story was a follow-up from the Wall Street Journal in 2008:
Is Obama on the 1983 list of “Columbia College Class Day Program” attendees ? As far as I can tell apart from 2 or 3 scattered ‘roommates’ or ‘classmates’, that is the only piece of hard evidence ever brought up as a rebuttal to so-called deniers or ‘pure birtherism’.
In some ways it’s much older than that.
Not a chance.
The story of the missing time at Columbia is old. You are right about that. But what is new is that on June 9, an article was published stating that a well known professor (retired) from Columbia said he didn’t remember ever having Obama in his classes, and that Obama would have had to take one of his classes for his major.
Note that Obama claims graduation not from Columbia University, but specifically Columbia College, supposedly a component thereof. It seems odd that he would have a degree from the college but not the university. Though the original story was that he received a B.A. with major in political science, a recent article claimed he had been awarded a Master’s degree.
Obama almost pathologically twists facts to his immediate advantage — there is likely a half-truth behind this. In searching graduation lists for the possible years, it would be wise to check for the various Obama aliases (Obama, Soetoro, Soebarkah, Steve Dunham, etc.), grad school versus undergrad, some alternative Columbia College program (International Studies perhaps?), etc.
...Graff further told WND no professor he knew could remember having Obama as a student at Columbia.
Nobody I knew at Columbia ever remembers Obama being there, Graff insisted...
That’s a different claim than actually naming a professor.
The good professor better find himself a good tax attorney.
This is all allegation that could have been proven years ago. You go to the school and get the graduation programs, yearbooks, etc... They are kept at every institution. Very easy to check for college vs. University. Local police solve things every day using High School libraries for these items. The colleges can’t hide them. It would take less than 1 hour in the library. Even better, the classmates probably saved their programs. If not, the committee for reunions has master lists. These are things that can’t be deleted.
The White House (@whitehouse) June 18, 2013
The Note: Obama Talks Transparency
Yep. He's an illegal alien. What American citizen uses the term U.S. person instead of citizen?
Illegal aliens have:
Forged birth certificates
Stolen social security numbers
How about Barry Soetero?
How about Steven from Connecticut?
Would he become legal citizen after he married Michelle? Does he have tax returns before he married her that you know of?
Also read in the comment section- I’m posting this to view only and see how a illegal alien would think
Importance: If Obama stayed in California that whole summer of 1980, then there was no way for him to fill out his Selective Service form on July 29, 1980 in Hawaii. Somebody else did it.
A forgery. If Obama knew that someone else filled out the form, then that is fraud and Obama is a liar, and he should be impeached.
How did I come to my conclusion that Obama stayed in California? I studied an article written in 2009 about Obamas friends at Occidental in California his freshman year.
A poster here recently suggested that we read it. (NOTE: According to google, Red Steel at Free Republic quoted the entire article on May 15, 2008.)
I will not quote the whole article here.
I will quote those parts that show that Obamas 1980 Selective Service form that we see on the internet is a forgery and those parts that show that Obama was in California the entire summer of 1980.
cbs AP/ June 18, 2009, 6:26 PM
Recalling Obamas Younger Days
Obama in the eyes of some right wingers is basically Muslim until proved innocent, says Margot Mifflin, a friend from Occidental who is now a journalism professor at New York's Lehman College. It's partly the Muslim factor by association and partly the fear of something being twisted. The young man Mifflin remembers was an unpretentious, down to earth, solidly middle-class guy who seemed somewhat more sophisticated than the average college student. He was slightly reserved and deliberate in a way that I sometimes thought betrayed an uncertainty.
But another former Oxy classmate, Robert McCrary, now general manager of a contract sewing company, saw him differently: He definitely had a cocky, sometimes arrogant way about him. ... He was not open to others. Of course, he was only 18 when he arrived at the small liberal arts college nicknamed Oxy.
His freshman roommates were Imad Husain, a Pakistani, who's now a Boston banker, and Paul Carpenter, now a Los Angeles lawyer. Carpenter recalled Obama as a good bodysurfer who had a funky red car, a Fiat, and who also played intramurals &- flag football, tennis and water polo. He was an athletic guy. He was gifted in that regard, said Carpenter. He also remembered Obama being super bright. He could get through the course work in a fraction of the time it took me.
Obama had an international circle of friends - a real eclectic sort of group, says Vinai Thummalapally, who himself came from Hyderabad, India.
As a freshman, he quickly became friends with Mohammed Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, two wealthy Pakistanis.
There were others, Thummalapally recalls: a French student and both black and white Americans, including Jon K. Mitchell, who later played bass for country-swing band Asleep at the Wheel (Mitchell remembers that Obama wore puka shell necklaces all the time, though they were not in style, and that we let it slide because he spent a lot of time growing up in Hawaii.)
The friends got together often to watch basketball games - they were Lakers fans - and eat the southern Indian food that Thummalapally cooked with his cousin.
There was serious talk, too. Obama had concerns about U.S. foreign policy - including the failed hostage rescue mission in Iran under Jimmy Carter, and American support of the Contras in Latin America.
Thummalapally lived with Obama the summer of 1980. The two ran together daily, three miles in the early morning, often chatting about their dreams. Thummalapally wanted to start a business back home; Obama talked about helping people.
1. Obama drove a red Fiat at Occidental. This means that Obama had eiher an Hawaiian or California license in 1979-1980, unless he was driving around Southern California without a license during that period.
2. Importance of Obama driver license: The person who filled out Obamas Selective Service form in Hawaii on July 29,1980 had no identification: No Social Security card. No driver's license. no Occidental id card. Strange.
3. Thummalapally lived with Obama the summer of 1980. The two ran together daily, three miles in the early morning, often chatting about their dreams. Thummalapally wanted to start a business back home; Obama talked about helping people.
Thummalapally: Anyone know where he is today? He obviously knows if Obama visited Hawaii in the summer 1980, because he lived with Obama during the summer of 1980.
4. Lived together and ran together daily.....not in Hawaii, but IN CALIFORNIA!
5. No mention of Obama going back to Hawaii. Can't be much clearer than that: Obama was in California for the entire summer of 1980, so there was no way for him to have filled out his Selective Service form on July 29, 1980. Someone else must have done it for him.
What about girls in Southern California at that time?
I bet there are plenty women today who remember Obama being in Southern California during the summer of 1980, some of whom must have visited Obama at his apartment. Where are you? Be brave and tell us what you know.
What about local bars and restaurants? I bet obama and his friends visited some of them in Southern California during the summer of 1980.
If you remember Obama frequenting restaurants and bars in Southern California during the summer of 1980, let us know. Speak up as a brave citizen of the United States who wants to do what is right.
6. What I also found impressive about the article was this: The wealth of names from Obama'sOccidental days who would know how Obama spent his summer of 1980, especially when there is no record of Obama holding a job from his first day at Occidental until he graduated from Columbia 4 years later.
Are we to blindly and naively accept the idea that Obama supported himself during his 4 years in college simply with college loan money and some mysterious scholarships, scholarships that no one can find anything about? Give me a break.
Don't we have ugly names for young people who live off friends and relatives and do not try to find a job for years and years? Are the ugly names printable here?
7. The names of Obama friends from Occidental in the article are below.
Investigators and reporters should put pressure on these people to tell us where Obama was during that summer of 1980. These friends can't hide behind federal privacy laws like Obama can.
Paul Carpenter, freshman roommate,Los Angeles Lawyer
Mohammed Hasan Chandroo
Imad Hussain, freshman roommate, Boston banker
Margot Miffin, professor, Lehman college, New York
Jon R. Mitchell, later country band member
Vinai Thummalapally from Hyderabad, India; lived with Obama during summer of 1980
8. Hawaii summer 1980: If none of the people above can put Obama in Hawaii on July 29, 1980 when his Selective Service form was filled out, then Obama is a fraud and a liar and needs to be impeached.
One would certainly think so, but absence of such evidence would not conclusively prove he wasn’t a Columbia student or graduate. I never had a picture in the university yearbook (this was considered a “Greeks and conformists” thing at the time). People who graduate at other times than Spring often miss the formal commencement exercise. You would still think the college publishes lists of its graduates, and that copies exist somewhere. Why haven’t Obama partisans put the evidence on the table years ago?
Even the leftist snopes came up with very little: two roommates and a grad student who taught (surprise) an “honors seminar” and one mention in a school magazine. That’s it.
We know is he was around the area for part of that time, and that he was given credit for attending Columbia. But who supported him and paid for school? Where’s the evidence he did actual coursework?
Compare that to what we knew about the details of Bush’ life, or of Bill Clinton’s, or of any potential Republican candidate for president.
Hell, even junior bush showed up for cheerleading practice when he wasn’t drunk or hungover. I find it strange the obama didn’t do hardly anything in college that was memorable.
Additionally there is the article that Obama wrote for the March 10, 1983 edition of the Columbia Sundial student newspaper entitled “Breaking the War Mentality,” and Michael Wolf, President of the MTV television networks has confirmed that he was in a seminar at Columbia with Obama. The professor for that seminar, Dr. Michael L. Baron also has confirmed that Obama was in his class and that he wrote a letter of recommendation for Obama to Harvard Law School.
Obama’s name and addresses appear in the 1982 & 1983 Columbia student directories.
Obama’s name appears in the 1983 Spring Graduation Day Program list of graduates that was posted on Breitbart.com. And Columbia University says that he is a 1983 graduate.
Finally David Maraniss’s new biography of Obama contains excerpts of letters and diary entries from Obama’s two girlfriends while he attended Columbia, Alexandra Mc Near and Genevieve Cook.
I included Baron, just not by name.
I can’t really believe stuff that was referenced long after the fact.
A guy takes a full course of classes at a prestigious school for two years and that’s the evidence?
My university experience was longer ago than O’s and I’m not famous and the university was huge, but I guarantee there’s a lot more memories and paper trail of me than there is of O.
My post was not meant to imply that was the entire extent of corroborating information, it was just some additional corroboration.
Something that the doubters about Obama at Columbia don’t seem to explain very well is how would someone get into the number one (at that time) law school in the nation, Harvard Law, without a four year degree? And then go on to graduate from the number one law school Magna cum Laude and President of Volume of the Harvard Law Review?
As for your question, I studied engineering and electronics. I looked at the job market and decided to pursue something useful since there were way too many grammar nazis looking for work.
Large contributions, just as has always been the case with ‘legacies’.