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18 mayors: Limit use of food stamps to buy soda
Associated Press ^ | Jun. 18, 2013 10:09 PM EDT | Jennifer Peltz

Posted on 06/18/2013 10:00:42 PM PDT by Olog-hai

The mayors of New York, Los Angeles, Chicago and 15 other cities are reviving a push against letting food stamps be used to buy soda and other sugary drinks.

In a letter sent to congressional leaders on Tuesday, the mayors say it’s “time to test and evaluate approaches limiting” the use of the subsidies for sugar-laden beverages, in the interest of fighting obesity and related diseases.

“We need to find ways to strengthen the program and promote good nutrition while limiting the use of these resources for items with no nutritional value, like sugary drinks, that are actually harming the health of participants,” Mayor Michael Bloomberg, whose office released the letter, said in a statement. “Why should we continue supporting unhealthy purchases in the false name of nutrition assistance?”

The other cities whose mayors signed the letter are Baltimore; Boston; Louisville, Ky.; Madison, Wis.; Minneapolis; Newark, N.J.; Oakland, Calif.; Philadelphia; Phoenix; Portland, Ore.; Providence, R.I.; Salt Lake City; San Francisco; St. Louis; and Seattle. …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Food; Society
KEYWORDS: bloomberg; foodstamps; snap; sodajerk
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1 posted on 06/18/2013 10:00:42 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I’m surprised Doomberg would be behind this.


2 posted on 06/18/2013 10:04:34 PM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a gamer not because I choose to have no life, but because I choose to have many.)
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To: Olog-hai

fair enough. you accept the govt’s money, you follow their rules


3 posted on 06/18/2013 10:04:48 PM PDT by Cronos (Latin presbuteros>Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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To: Cronos

Take the King’s Coin, Do the King’s Bidding.


4 posted on 06/18/2013 10:06:50 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Olog-hai

For once, I agree with Bloomie. Don’t stop at sugary sodas. No chips, no pop tarts, no candy. Healthy foods only, and generics, like WIC.


5 posted on 06/18/2013 10:08:08 PM PDT by informavoracious (We're being "punished" with Stanley Ann's baby. Obamacare: shovel-ready healthcare.)
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To: Olog-hai

There is so much abuse regarding food stamps (regarded as free money), soda is the least of their worries.


6 posted on 06/18/2013 10:08:17 PM PDT by doc1019 (There is absolutely no difference between pro-choice and pro-abortion.)
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To: Olog-hai

They don’t have to ban all soda. Just grape soda and Sprite.


7 posted on 06/18/2013 10:10:03 PM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: informavoracious

I agree. No processed microwave meals. Just staples like flour, sugar, fruits and veggies, basic meats. Nothing more than $5 lb.

Not sure why someone on SNAP needs steak and lobster. Not sure why they need premade cake and icecream. If you want those things then learn how to make them.


8 posted on 06/18/2013 10:12:06 PM PDT by pennyfarmer (Your socialist beat our liberal AGAIN.)
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To: informavoracious

Has the USDA changed their policy on soft drinks since 1977? In those days I worked for Lucky Stores in southern CA and you could not buy soft drinks with food stamps.

That did not stop people from buying $100 in food with food stamps and $100 in alcohol and cigarettes with cash.


9 posted on 06/18/2013 10:13:21 PM PDT by chrisinoc
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To: Olog-hai

Not against SNAP (Food Stamps) per se and the idea that 1 in 5 citizens (and who knows how many aliens?) are on the dole. Oh, no, they just don’t want “Big Sugar” or “Big Soda” to make a profit from it. The fact that welfare, food stamps and Section 8 are what is dragging this country down to the level of Ethiopia or Bangladesh doesn’t enter into it.


10 posted on 06/18/2013 10:16:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: wastedyears

>>I’m surprised Doomberg would be behind this<<

doonseburg rule: never EVER let an opportunity to control as many as possible go by. liberal ideas of “the stupid downtrodden” must relinquish to the All Seeing Eye of The State.”

Viva la Nanny State!


11 posted on 06/18/2013 10:21:09 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (To attempt to have intercourse with a hornet's nest is a very bad idea)
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To: pennyfarmer

You post on this forum, yet spew the control nature of the left. Food stamps is the least of our worries in this country right now. Some of you who are so judgmental about what people can and can’t buy - may someday find yourself in need. Don’t we have enough of big brother without the posters on here chiming in with the left? Sure, there is fraud, but its prevalent in larger ways in this country.


12 posted on 06/18/2013 10:25:20 PM PDT by Catsrus
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To: Cronos

well as long as we’re all going to be good little communists its high time to restrict the soda for the takers....that and their potato chips, and candy bars, and skittles, and their Arizona teas....just as bad for you as soda...


13 posted on 06/18/2013 10:28:49 PM PDT by cherry
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To: chrisinoc

Oh yes. You can buy any “food” on food stamps except ready to eat hot food. You still cannot buy pet food, alcohol, tobacco, toilet tissue or soap. I am regularly behind users at the store, with conveyor belts full of soda pop, sugary cereals, snacks, and assorted junk foods, along with expensive convenience frozen foods. Very little fresh, nutritious food. The mom and the poor little kids are all obese. In the 70s there was still some stigma attached to good stamps. Now it is to make them feel like they’re just like working people.


14 posted on 06/18/2013 10:31:10 PM PDT by informavoracious (We're being "punished" with Stanley Ann's baby. Obamacare: shovel-ready healthcare.)
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To: informavoracious

I was at a local grocery meat dept. trying to figure out how much hamburger I could afford. I watched the woman ahead of me order 4.5 lbs of King Crab legs at $20.00 a lb and three 12 oz filet mignons at $12.99 lb. Saw her when I was checking ou. She got her total then whipped out an EBT card to pay for it.


15 posted on 06/19/2013 2:36:26 AM PDT by DaiHuy (May God save the country, for it is evident the people will not! Millard Fillmore)
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To: Olog-hai

Beer dogfood and lotto ok


16 posted on 06/19/2013 3:08:31 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Yesterdays conspiracies are todays truths)
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To: Catsrus

It makes them feel superior. But I agree with all you said. Paying taxes doesn’t make you the boss of those who most had jobs all their lives and have had to cash in on what THEY paid for through the years. But you can’t make some Freepers understand that food stamps doesn’t equal non working bums. Some just underworking parents.


17 posted on 06/19/2013 3:11:55 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: pennyfarmer
Just staples like flour, sugar, fruits and veggies, basic meats.

For a growing percentage of the population, welfare isn't a temporary safety net, it's a permanent way of life. Qualifying for it is the peak of their career. There is no reason to motivate them to move on because there is no job they can do that a computerized machine can't do better, faster, cheaper. Can we permanently deny the small luxuries in life to these people? I say give these human pets their treats but in exchange have them fixed.

18 posted on 06/19/2013 3:27:46 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Olog-hai

Its the t-bone steaks and lobster that irks me.


19 posted on 06/19/2013 3:34:02 AM PDT by BushCountry (We Wanted a President That Listens to All Americans - Now We Have One!)
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To: Olog-hai

Time to sell my stock in ‘purple drank’


20 posted on 06/19/2013 4:03:09 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: pennyfarmer

-—Not sure why someone on SNAP needs steak and lobster.-——

Every democrat has the right to live large like the Obama’s...on the taxpayer dime...

To think otherwise....is obviously racist...


21 posted on 06/19/2013 4:13:05 AM PDT by Popman (Godlessness is always the first step to the concentration camp.)
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To: Catsrus; autumnraine

I say just the basics because what else do you need? There are food bank programs where they can’t give the flour away. Why do you think that is? The people there volunteering end up taking those items home with them.

I suppose the problem lies in the fact that people don’t know how to cook basic items. Most don’t want to learn.


22 posted on 06/19/2013 4:31:49 AM PDT by pennyfarmer (Your socialist beat our liberal AGAIN.)
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To: autumnraine

Maybe if they made food stamps more unpleasant by limiting choices, there would be fewer people on them.


23 posted on 06/19/2013 5:06:09 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: cherry

Exactly — the takers want a commie state, so let papa gov tell them what to do


24 posted on 06/19/2013 8:15:41 AM PDT by Cronos (Latin presbuteros>Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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To: Cronos

Better yet, re-open the food distribution centers. Forget food stamps, or make them only usable at the government “stores.” Then limit the inventory to healthy food items.

When my mother and her 3 kids moved to NC in 1970, separating from our father, there was a short time when our family received public assistance (my mother started taking in children which she kept in our apartment, before THAT got regulated). I remember having to go downtown and get that black and white-labelled cheese, peanut butter, etc. It was humiliating, even for me at age 12, which was (or should have been the point— get off the backs of others and earn for yourself.

We never had much until my mother remarried, and even then a lower middle class way of life seemed pretty good by comparison.


25 posted on 06/19/2013 8:34:58 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: Olog-hai

When one accepts their own enslavement, they then must bow to their masters.


26 posted on 06/19/2013 9:41:00 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: CSM

Are you talking about us bowing to enslavement by the entitlement class?


27 posted on 06/19/2013 9:41:58 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: pennyfarmer
they can’t give the flour away. Why do you think that is?

because the recipients are LAZY.

28 posted on 06/19/2013 9:42:34 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Not really, but you make a good point. I was referencing that when you depend on government largesse for your life, then you bow to your providers. However, you are correct, the moochers’ largesse is being built upon the productives’ enslavement.


29 posted on 06/19/2013 9:50:40 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Catsrus

Rare to see a display of wisdom on this topic.

And on the subject of luxury and comfort foods, FReepers blame the recipients instead of the food conglomerate lobbiests who vehemently argue against any restrictions on food categories. A similar situation to the summer meal programs where diary associations and other producer groups pushed this stuff through and continue to pay for ads promoting it.

It is actually big business Republicans who are behind most of these food giveaway programs!


30 posted on 06/19/2013 9:57:00 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: NCLaw441
Better yet, re-open the food distribution centers. Forget food stamps, or make them only usable at the government “stores.”

Sounds real conservative. Take private business entirely out of it. More like the Soviet Union.

31 posted on 06/19/2013 9:59:27 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: steve86

dairy = diary


32 posted on 06/19/2013 10:00:06 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: pennyfarmer
No processed microwave meals. Just staples like flour, sugar, fruits and veggies, basic meats.

I saw a bleeding heart interview with a woman who was doing her midnight "EBT just got recharged" shopping. She was complaining that she wasn't getting enough EBT to feed her two kids (one was under 6 months old and was undoubtedly covered by WIC). She was complaining about the prices of canned soup and pasta. Didn't feel sorry for her, but I could have smacked the idiot reporter, who ended the sob story by telling us that this woman wass in a government funded training program to learn a trade. She was training to be a chef. I kid you not...

33 posted on 06/19/2013 10:35:52 AM PDT by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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To: MrB

you are very judgmental and putting all recipients in a category - not ALL are lazy. If you want to blame someone - then blame those who voted this regime into office - that includes the very wealthy - who also pay taxes for the benefits - some are just down are their luck - lost their jobs because of obama’s policies and the hard-nosed so - called compassionate people on here want them to do without - I know several who get food stamps and aren’t lazy - they have lost their jobs and have gone through some rough times. Some of you on here should join the DU - you sound just like them by putting people into categories and trying to tell people what they can and can’t eat.


34 posted on 06/19/2013 10:52:39 AM PDT by Catsrus
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To: steve86

That’s what I’m talking about - Freepers sounding like communists. I can see why many vote Democrat - they have gone through hard times and need the safety net - who would want to be a conservative when their families are starving? I wish people would stop being so judgmental. I’ve helped many people out with food, but can’t do it on a full-time basis, and yes, my tax dollars supported those who didn’t or couldn’t work, but I’m not complaining. My tax dollars also supported Planned Parenthood, and other programs I don’t agree with, but as a citizen of a country - we take the good with the bad. People have had it hard these past few years and they need to eat.Not all are on food stamps by choice. When you point a finger at someone - you have 3 pointing back at yourself. Never judge a person until you walk a mile in their shoes.


35 posted on 06/19/2013 10:57:02 AM PDT by Catsrus
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To: dfwgator

Maybe if we limit how often you and others can post on these forums, and make it unpleasant as possible, you wouldn’t be so judgmental of others.


36 posted on 06/19/2013 10:58:53 AM PDT by Catsrus
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To: Catsrus

How many are not on food stamps by choice?


37 posted on 06/19/2013 10:59:48 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I know several. Why don’t you do a survey and then report back? Food stamps don’t pay for utilities, car insurances, or rent. Yes, some get rent subsidies, so why not make them live in cardboard boxes under a bridge with their little kids?


38 posted on 06/19/2013 11:03:14 AM PDT by Catsrus
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To: Catsrus

Call a Waahmbulance.........The people who legitimately need food stamps pales in comparison to the number who get it. No one is going to starve.


39 posted on 06/19/2013 11:14:40 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: steve86

Many elements of capitalism are already removed from the system. The recipients don’t earn what they get. They have no real cares about how they spend the “free” benefits. In a government program my concern is how much is spent, wasted and used fraudulently. I want the recipients to get only no-name goods. I don’t care if private stores “sell” it. But those on the government teat should not get name brand stuff, nor luxury items like lobster, etc. when many of those who pay the taxes don’t buy that kind of items.


40 posted on 06/19/2013 11:17:11 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: Olog-hai

Who are da foo stams lobbyists, United Americans For Foo Stams? Who was da King of Foo Stams, remember? Bob Dole. Why, was Kansas a big recipient of foo stams?

I’ll give you a hint: farmers, junk food producers and distributors.


41 posted on 06/19/2013 11:18:09 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Catsrus

Sorry, but when it is GIVEN to you, economy should be a top concern. When you spend your OWN money you can buy what you want.


42 posted on 06/19/2013 11:18:50 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: autumnraine

I think you’d find that those who find themselves on temporary assistance don’t abuse it like those who have been on the dole for generations.


43 posted on 06/19/2013 11:21:03 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: NCLaw441

Good point! When I was a kid there was a time when our family received welfare. We lined up to get powdered eggs, peanut butter, and a few other foods. It got us thru. Why won’t that work today?

A local (RGV, TX) report recently told about Lone Star(food stamps) users having balances of thousands of dollars. One user reportedly had a balance of over $7000, after purchasing groceries. A grocery store cashier provided the story to a local reporter. It was picked up and reported on Fox News.


44 posted on 06/19/2013 11:28:31 AM PDT by RGVTx
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To: NCLaw441
But those on the government teat should not get name brand stuff, nor luxury items like lobster, etc. when many of those who pay the taxes don’t buy that kind of items.

I don't disagree. But to get that changed you'll have to do something about the food industry lobbyists who block any changes in policy.

I do not agree with those who spout off saying ban all prepared food. Many of these people do not have the skills to cook from scratch (I certainly wouldn't) and nationwide training is not feasible. That would be a multi-billion-dollar program in itself. Also, a fraction of recipients do have genuine medical or disability limitations that make this unrealistic.

45 posted on 06/19/2013 11:41:50 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: RGVTx
Why won’t that work today?

Walk into a big city welfare office and propose that to the "clients". If you come out without needing an ambulance you will understand why.

A local (RGV, TX) report recently told about Lone Star(food stamps) users having balances of thousands of dollars.

I stated on a thread last night that my state starts sending letters when the balance is over $1,000 for two months -- the recipient has to come in for an interview and explain why they don't need the money.

46 posted on 06/19/2013 11:46:07 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: steve86

Everyone should know how to cook a little. it isn’t that hard. If you can afford to eat out or buy prepared food for every meal that is your choice. My wife prefers to make most of our meals, although we could afford to eat out if we chose.

But if you are getting your food from your fellow citizens, it isn’t unfair to require that you learn to make macaroni and government cheese.


47 posted on 06/19/2013 12:17:06 PM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: steve86

So these welfare recipients we are generous enough to provide for, should be feared? Yet, we should have compassion for them?

We should use that same thought to argue for providing more for our military and veterans. After all, they are combat trained.

Also, I don’t know why I should be concerned with providing cooking classes to those that don’t know how to cook. When they get hungry enough, they’ll learn to cook or perish. Even the most inept should be able to lick peanut butter off a spoon.


48 posted on 06/19/2013 12:18:07 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: steve86

Those with disability limitations and the elderly already have an alternative in my area. It’s called Meals On Wheels.


49 posted on 06/19/2013 12:36:16 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: NCLaw441
Everyone should know how to cook a little.

I actually have several thousand dollars worth of dehydrated shelf-stable foods stored away for emergencies but am almost entirely dependent on someone else to prepare them LOL. Guess I will be out working on the generators or something while they are lighting up the stoves. I have at least five or six types of stoves and oven as well, many different fuels including solar, but am almost entirely ignorant on the actual cooking.

it isn’t unfair to require that you learn to make macaroni and government cheese.

I agree it isn't unfair or unreasonable -- it is the practicalities that are the obstacle -- not the least of which is: "Those mean Republicans -- sending us back to beans and rice and the Great Depression while they dine like aristocrats at the wharf."

50 posted on 06/19/2013 12:57:52 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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