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Leander police officer shoots dog at wrong house
Austin American Statesman ^ | June 18, 2013 | Esther Robards-Forbes

Posted on 06/19/2013 8:28:12 AM PDT by Altariel

A dog was shot and severely injured by a Leander police officer Monday night after the officer attempted to serve a warrant at the wrong address, according to the dog’s owners and a statement from the Leander Police Department.

The dog, a German shepherd named Vinny that works as a therapy dog, was shot in the neck and is recovering at the home of his owners in Liberty Hill.

Renata and James Simmons, the dog’s owners, are baffled and distraught by the actions of the officer. According to the statement from LPD, Warrant Officer Woodson Blase arrived at the Simmons’ home on FM 3405 to serve a warrant, knocked on the door and was walking around the back of the house when two German shepherds ran toward him.

The officer feared for his safety and fired three shots, the statement said.

James Simmons said he didn’t know the officer was there until he heard the gunshots. When he approached the officer in the front yard, Simmons said, the officer told him he was there to serve a warrant. Simmons had never heard of the person named in the warrant and has lived at that home for nine years. When he asked the officer what address he was looking for, Blase did not answer, Simmons said.

Vinny was hit once in the neck and was rushed to an emergency veterinarian. The dog is expected to live, but may not walk normally again, James Simmons said.

The incident is under administrative review, according to the statement from LPD.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; germanshepherd; leander; texas; warondogs
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1 posted on 06/19/2013 8:28:12 AM PDT by Altariel
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To: Altariel
Well, did he then go to the right house and shoot their dog?
2 posted on 06/19/2013 8:29:15 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: ClearCase_guy

That’s not the dog you are looking to shoot.


3 posted on 06/19/2013 8:30:54 AM PDT by Paladin2 (;-))
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To: Altariel

Confidential to Leander Police Chief: when choosing which officer to appoint to serve warrants, pick one who can read addresses.


4 posted on 06/19/2013 8:33:55 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Unindicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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To: NonValueAdded

sad but true.


5 posted on 06/19/2013 8:35:34 AM PDT by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: Altariel

Serving warrants is such an important job, why is someone to stupid to read doing it. This guy doesn’t sound smart enough for garbageman.


6 posted on 06/19/2013 8:36:15 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Altariel

Serving warrants is such an important job, why is someone to stupid to read doing it. This guy doesn’t sound smart enough for garbageman.


7 posted on 06/19/2013 8:36:24 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Altariel

Shoot the cop.


8 posted on 06/19/2013 8:37:35 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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To: Mastador1

You’re assuming the problem is stupidity.

This is happening too frequently for the problem to be stupidity.

These cases are deliberate.


9 posted on 06/19/2013 8:37:41 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

Do that to one of my dogs and I don’t care who you are, you’re a dead man walking.


10 posted on 06/19/2013 8:38:03 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: NonValueAdded

Probably a lateral transfer from the Post Office...


11 posted on 06/19/2013 8:41:19 AM PDT by stormer
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To: Altariel

In this case it seems to have STARTED with stupidity, since the officer, at least from the story, misread the address on the warrant. I agree the police as a whole seem to be all to ready to shoot any dog, anytime, anywhere.


12 posted on 06/19/2013 8:41:48 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Altariel
I pray that God removes the pure hatred I feel for the shooters when I read these accounts.

Way back in the early 1990s, a deputy sheriff in Colorado shot my friends' old GS, in their backyard, in front of them and their toddler son.

They were legally tending a burn barrel and didn't know the deputy was there.

He stopped to check on the smoke and walked around to the backyard to see what might be burning.

He surprised them, including their old girl, who trotted over to check out the stranger in her yard.

Not aggressive. No teeth, no charging, just an old, skinny girl hanging out with her family in her yard, trotting over to checkout the stranger.

Who pulled out his gun and shot her dead.

No charges filed, just the standard administrative leave and a transfer.

Hatred. Pure hatred. God, please release me from this burden.

13 posted on 06/19/2013 8:45:45 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: Mastador1

If he “misread” the address, he would have been apologetic, ashamed.

Note his reaction in the article.

“Misread” is now the “official excuse”, not the actual reason.


14 posted on 06/19/2013 8:46:15 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: GBA

A country can be judged as to how it treats its pets.


15 posted on 06/19/2013 8:49:02 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

more canned dog food for seniors, y’know.


16 posted on 06/19/2013 8:51:34 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi --)
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To: GBA

Wal-Mart. Walk-by cut&run. Back of the knee / hamstring.

Not that I would advocate such a thing but I’ve heard it has been done.


17 posted on 06/19/2013 9:12:06 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Altariel

You’re assuming the problem is stupidity.

This is happening too frequently for the problem to be stupidity.

These cases are deliberate.
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Agreed. And I feel absolutely nothing when I read of the death of a cop. Nothing.


18 posted on 06/19/2013 9:19:21 AM PDT by Student0165
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To: Altariel

First thing is to shoot the dog. Then give a “howdy” anyone home?


19 posted on 06/19/2013 9:34:20 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
The officer feared for his safety...

What more needs to be said? Case closed.

20 posted on 06/19/2013 9:39:05 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Altariel

When hiring, hire someone who can read, remember, and recall.


21 posted on 06/19/2013 9:58:15 AM PDT by healy61
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To: Mastador1; NonValueAdded

When you have tried to serve an arrest warrant at a house with no numbers on the building then you can make such assumptions.


22 posted on 06/19/2013 9:59:37 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Lurker

Enjoy the 15 years on death row before the needle. Cooler heads prevail. If it pans out officer was negligent then get your recompense in court.


23 posted on 06/19/2013 10:00:50 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Mastador1

BTW, I pass this house several times a week, no house number is an accurate fact.


24 posted on 06/19/2013 10:02:33 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

oh please.


25 posted on 06/19/2013 10:04:41 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Unindicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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To: Resolute Conservative

My iPhone finds addresses fine. I assume this miscreant had access to comparable technology.


26 posted on 06/19/2013 10:05:11 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Resolute Conservative

OK, I see you are a local. if the house has no number, then EXTRA care is incumbent upon the server to be sure he has the proper address. Due diligence is incumbent upon the officer when the stakes and risk is that high.


27 posted on 06/19/2013 10:06:48 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Unindicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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To: jospehm20

I want your iPhone to distinguish between 3-4 houses sitting close together on one lot. That would be a neat trick since my iPhone cannot find my own house within 1/2 mile.


28 posted on 06/19/2013 10:09:07 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

Anyone on my property without a duly constituted warrant, naming me or someone on my property, that fires a weapon at any member of my family has lost whatever cover of law they may have had.

Google up US v Weaver and prepare to be educated.

Shoot my dog while you’re illegally on my property and you’ll be DRT. And I’ll walk away a free man.


29 posted on 06/19/2013 10:10:01 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: NonValueAdded

You people cannot have it both ways. The officer was probably serving a traffic warrant or some other low misdemeanor in which case the officer usually goes alone to prevent any appearance of over-reaching that so many here complain about. Was he suppose to take a SWAT team or 2-3 more cars, then you all would be railing on all that man power for one arrest.

Which is it? Try and knock on a door calmly and serve a paper or bring the cavalry and raze the property?


30 posted on 06/19/2013 10:13:25 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Lurker

I am versed in Weaver.

So during the serving of the warrant and commission of your murder you KNOW the warrant is not proper, BS. So after the fact you then find out it was wrong and you shoot the officer, that IS capital murder. Enjoy prison arm chair hero.


31 posted on 06/19/2013 10:16:51 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

Mine does. I went to San Anton and picked up a puppy Sunday night. It found the correct address in an older, dense neighboorhood just fine. I assume cops have other and better GPS device. I know they get some cool toys to use.


32 posted on 06/19/2013 10:19:11 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Lurker

This is exactly how the feds will quash any uprising, people who act impulsively will be dealt with and the aftermath paints all who support action as kooks. You very rarely, if ever win when you act impulsively against the government.


33 posted on 06/19/2013 10:19:19 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

No. Use a GPS, consult a street map, start with a known address point and count houses. Make damned sure you are going to the right house. No one said anything about a SWAT team. If there is any confusion or doubt, back off until you are sure. It is that freaking simple and there is no “overreach” involved.


34 posted on 06/19/2013 10:19:47 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Unindicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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To: NonValueAdded

I have been to several houses where I cannot identify the house so I knock and have to ask is this address X? or does some and so live here? This occurred in a rural setting, not a urban neighborhood where in the absence of house numbers you can extrapolate numbers by order of the houses.

I am not condoning the shooting only pointing out that serving papers outside of town is not as cut and dried as in a cookie cutter neighborhood.


35 posted on 06/19/2013 10:23:42 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

The cop and the homeowner both knew he was in the wrong place, without a valid warrant. Do that to me, and you’re DRT. Period. And it wouldn’t be murder. It’d be homicide, but not murder.

Maybe you’d sit still for it, that’s because 95% of conservatives are just closet statists. I’m not. Come onto my property without proper legal authority and fire a weapon at me or mine, and you’re dead blue suit or no.

Have a nice day.


36 posted on 06/19/2013 10:28:19 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

Ok, whatever.


37 posted on 06/19/2013 10:37:02 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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Which house is it?  photo 3504_zps42660989.jpg
38 posted on 06/19/2013 10:38:27 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

Without actually going to the door you do not know which house it is, even the post man doesn’t since the boxes are a community box at end of the drive (if they even have one and no a PO Box in town).


39 posted on 06/19/2013 10:40:20 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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Without actually going to the door you do not know which house it is

Doesn't that mean he should be more careful about not shooting someone's dog? In a situation where innocent people, kids, dogs are around, there should be a higher degree of caution than if the house is positively verified to have criminals or criminal suspects in it.

40 posted on 06/19/2013 10:45:14 AM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: palmer

In a perfect world, which we don’t have. Again, I don’t justify the shooting without all the facts, just saying you serve the paper then make the call.


41 posted on 06/19/2013 10:49:21 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

Hey look. Its one of our resident jackbootlickers here to tell us everything is grand up to and including the train station transfer!


42 posted on 06/19/2013 10:50:21 AM PDT by Crazieman (Are you naive enough to think VOTING will fix this entrenched system?)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

More by how it treats its unborn children, I would think.


43 posted on 06/19/2013 10:50:51 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Resolute Conservative

Give me a copy of the warrant and I will. I want the same info available to me as had the officer.


44 posted on 06/19/2013 10:51:22 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Unindicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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To: Altariel
All Leos should be tested to see if they have an unnatural fear of dogs. If they do, they need therapy. A cop shooting one of my dogs would not have to wait for an internal review.
45 posted on 06/19/2013 10:51:34 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Crazieman

I am not blind supporter as I was one before and know first hand there are goobers in the job. My point is everyone here condemning knows shiite from shinola what happened out there until after the facts come out. Zip, nada, but they are quick to pony up and spout bravado they would kill anyone who shoots there dog yada yada.

Besides I don’t under your train euphemism.


46 posted on 06/19/2013 10:56:24 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

I just re read the story to see if I missed something and still did not see anything in it about a missing address numbers on the house. I still feel the officer was negligent from the start, no other houses had numbers on them that he determine the correct residence? Never heard of Google maps? Sloppy, lazy, shoddy work that resulted in an animal maimed. And worse it could have another home owner shot or killed.


47 posted on 06/19/2013 11:01:04 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Resolute Conservative

whenever an occasion for me to drive on to one’s property, whether I know them or not,either city or rural, I blow the car horn or make a very loud noise.
I do not exit vehicle unless someone invites me to step down. If no one shows I leave.
At the age of 77+ i have never had any proplems using that “RULE”.


48 posted on 06/19/2013 11:14:14 AM PDT by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel and his a$$ falls off!)
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To: GOYAKLA

Yes that is a good rule that I follow a lot.


49 posted on 06/19/2013 11:15:54 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative
just saying you serve the paper then make the call.

There's a situation where there innocent lives at stake, that has nothing to do with it being a perfect world or not. The question is simple: do you act differently when approaching potentially innocent people and dogs or exactly the same?

Here's another situation: you are called to a bank robbery and when you arrive there is a man running from the bank. Do you draw, aim and tell him to halt? Suppose you arrive and there are 3 women and 2 men running from the bank (you have no info about the robbery). Do you do aim at the five of them?

If it is the same response no matter what the context, is that because training is only for threats, with no deviations based on observed facts and inferences?

50 posted on 06/19/2013 11:16:07 AM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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