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Acing the SNAP Challenge GOP communications director eats for $4.50 per day
Washington Beacon ^ | 06/18/2013 | Lachlan Markay

Posted on 06/19/2013 1:14:38 PM PDT by Rusty0604

A Republican hill staffer participated in a publicity stunt designed to bring awareness to the plight of food stamp recipients by spending only as much money on food in a week as the federal food stamp program provides. “I didn’t plan ahead or buy strategically, I just saw the publicity stunt and made a snap decision to drive down the street and try it myself,” Ferguson said. “I put my money where my mouth is, and the proposed food stamp cuts are still quite filling.”Ferguson says Democrats are playing up the difficulties of the challenge in order to boost the political case for increasing food stamp benefits. “Not only did I buy a week’s worth of food on what Democrats claim is too little, I have money left over,” Ferguson said.

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TOPICS: Food
KEYWORDS: welfare

1 posted on 06/19/2013 1:14:38 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

This is good. But doubtful it will be aired much beyond FR.


2 posted on 06/19/2013 1:18:57 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: NEMDF

The Democrats have been tweeting pics of them eating peanut butter, soup out of a can, counted slices of peaches, all soooo sad./s


3 posted on 06/19/2013 1:26:02 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

If you are willing to cook from scratch with staple ingredients, you could actually live pretty well on that.


4 posted on 06/19/2013 1:27:57 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I do! And I pay with my own money!


5 posted on 06/19/2013 1:31:29 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604
eating peanut butter, soup out of a can, counted slices of peaches

It sounds like most college students.

6 posted on 06/19/2013 1:31:45 PM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be what you might have been.)
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To: Rusty0604

That’s unrepresentative of most foo stams consumers...

no lobster, shrimp, or steak.


7 posted on 06/19/2013 1:34:36 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
If you are willing to cook from scratch with staple ingredients, you could actually live pretty well on that.

Agree. Nourishing veggie stews with beans and rice and noodles, very little meat, One egg per day, milk every day, a piece of fruit every day. Some yogurt, perhaps homemade. Bake your own wholegrain bread and muffins. Sounds like a challenge worth taking, and keeping processed foods out of the mix saves tons of money and makes you healthier.

Nice if the FDA gave out recipes, cuz many if not most food stamp recipients have ZERO clue about nutrition. They buy expensive processed junk.

8 posted on 06/19/2013 1:39:14 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely expressed as advice)
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To: Rusty0604
Friend of mine did that. Immigrated from India about ten years ago. Lived mainly on big bags of rice from Sam's Club that his wife knew how to make his favorite dishes from. Bought a house last year and paid cash.


9 posted on 06/19/2013 1:41:07 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Veto!

I believe the Agriculture Department publishes such recipes. But they go out to rural farm wives who already know how to cook that way. Typical Gubbermint.


10 posted on 06/19/2013 1:42:35 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Rusty0604
The amount is phoney. It is the average amount for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. It is not the maximum amount for the person who is living only on it. The average amount anticipates that the welfare recipient would be paying part of her food bill with her own money and part with food stamps.

Ferguson would probably get fat if he lived on the maximum food stamp allotment.

11 posted on 06/19/2013 1:45:46 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (This message has been recorded but not approved by Obama's StasiNet. Read it at your peril.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Okay, just did a little math. I bring my lunch to work probably 18 or 19 days out of 20 workdays a month. (The other 1 or 2 days I have lunch with my son or daughter.) It costs about $1.10 for a lunch meat and cheese sandwich, and we use fancy bread. Then I will have some combination of a yogurt, carrot sticks (buy the carrots whole, peel and cut them myself), some melon, grapes, apple or other fruit. All fruit purchased “whole” and cleaned/cut up at home. So the normal cost of my lunch is probably well under $2. And it is “free” if I bring some dinner leftovers that would end up not being used otherwise.

For “breakfast” every workday, I have a packet of peanut butter crackers. I buy these in boxes of 8 packets for $2 for the box, on sale.

Eating eggs, less expensive bread, oatmeal, etc. would also allow for economical breakfasts.

We would go over the $4.50 per day with dinner, but not always, and could easily keep it at that level with a little more effort in our shopping and cooking choices. In the past, I have certainly lived that way, and did not suffer.

If we HAD to live on $4.50 per person per day in the household, I guarantee we would eat better, because I would work harder at the food and cooking choices, meal planning.

12 posted on 06/19/2013 1:48:34 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: NEMDF

Yet try and make this case to a Liberal and watch their hysterical outrage.


13 posted on 06/19/2013 1:51:51 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

True.

Most recipients refuse / don’t know how to shop this way.

They want the fast / easy and far more expensive way...

A whole bag of carrots is much less costly than the cute little baggy of peeled cut and washed carrots.


14 posted on 06/19/2013 1:55:21 PM PDT by NOVACPA
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To: Rusty0604

I have been meaning to pin down my food budget, but I am sure that it is less than that.


15 posted on 06/19/2013 1:57:38 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: Rusty0604

If you eat soup from a can you are eating high on the hog. Soup is really expensive today.


16 posted on 06/19/2013 2:06:34 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Rusty0604

Below is the list of what the guy bought.

He could have done better if he put more thought into it and skipped the soda, cookies, drink mix and popcycles, and bought some fresh veggies or a bit of meat. But he certainly did prove that you can live off of $31.50 a week

Ferguson purchased his food at the Dollar Tree and Shopper’s Food Warehouse located in the 6100 block of Little River Turnpike in Alexandria. It is served by Metrobus and within bike and walking distance of public housing.

For $21.55 Ferguson purchased at Dollar Tree:
Two boxes of Honeycomb cereal
Three cans of red beans and rice
Jar of peanut butter
Bottle of grape jelly
Loaf of whole wheat bread
Two cans of refried beans
Box of spaghetti
Large can of pasta sauce
Two liters of root beer
Large box of popsicles
24 servings of Wyler’s fruit drink mix
Eight cups of applesauce
Bag of pinto beans
Bag of rice
Bag of cookies

For $6.03 at the Shoppers Food Warehouse next door Ferguson bought a gallon of milk and a box of maple and brown sugar oatmeal.


17 posted on 06/19/2013 2:09:18 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Rusty0604
I can't begin to tell how many people I have seen at the grocery store buy a cart full of junk food, soda, steaks, crab legs and bottled water pay for that with an EBT card (food stamps)and then pay cash for beer and cigarettes. The only people I see using there food stamps to buy real food are a handful of little old ladies. If we wanted to end abuse of the SNAP program just limit what can be purchased to real nutritious food items just like the WIC program. I don't think the program would be near as popular if all you could buy were milk, eggs, fruit, bread and vegetables etc. If Michelle O were not a total hypocrite she would be pushing for this change.
18 posted on 06/19/2013 2:12:01 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Veto!

Agreed. If you’ve never learned how to cook, you have to buy pre-processed food and meals.


19 posted on 06/19/2013 2:15:13 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Rusty0604

We are still the stupid party.

Focusing on cutting food stamps like this will cost us elections.

The way to cut food stamps is to get people jobs. And our trade policy continues to incent companies to produce overseas. Having taxes on domestic producers 10 times greater than the average tariff on foreign producers doesn’t help either.

You can also focus on enforcement for fraud. That’s not nearly as damaging politically as just arbitraily cutting the benefit. But that takes an executive willing to do so. Perhaps Congress could hire that video sting guy to run stings on food stamp operations and law enforcement unwilling to address known problems.


20 posted on 06/19/2013 2:17:41 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: KosmicKitty

Looks like he wasted about five bucks of that on useless sugar.


21 posted on 06/19/2013 2:18:22 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: KosmicKitty

Where are the vegetables? there are no green vegetables. Just pinto beans and spagetti sauce.

You could live on this for a while, but would be malnourished.

No Red meat? In fact, no meat at all? Peanut butter and beans and rice for protein.


22 posted on 06/19/2013 2:21:43 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

They did this deliberately to create the impression that “those poor people can only shop at Dollar Tree”.

Lose us elections? The real constituency for this program is not the poor on the receiving end. It’s Kroger, A&P, Ralphs, Winn-Dixie, Piggly Wiggly, Meijers, Giant Eagle, Walmart, Safeway......


23 posted on 06/19/2013 2:28:07 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog
"Lose us elections? The real constituency for this program is not the poor on the receiving end. It’s Kroger, A&P, Ralphs, Winn-Dixie, Piggly Wiggly, Meijers, Giant Eagle, Walmart, Safeway......"

So you're saying you can cut these programs and poor don't get hurt only the big grocery stores? Is that what you are claming?

Perhaps the poor should just die and decrease the surplus population? /s

24 posted on 06/19/2013 2:34:23 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Rusty0604

Yea, but forgot the booze, cigarettes. lottery tickets
and all the other things “poor” people want to spend
our money on.

Local Supermarket (SHopRite) running special on pasta
$.88 per pound, Sauce $.99 a jar could eat for month
at 4.50


25 posted on 06/19/2013 2:35:47 PM PDT by njslim (St)
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To: DannyTN

I’m saying the poor do not have the kind of juice to get this stuff through Congress every year. Big Food does.


26 posted on 06/19/2013 2:44:21 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog
"I’m saying the poor do not have the kind of juice to get this stuff through Congress every year. Big Food does."

Well, I'm saying cutting food stamps to the poor when unemployment is 23% (shadowstats.com) is guaranteed to cost us elections.

I think Ryan's focus on cutting entitlements instead of fixing the economy, cost us senate seats in the last election.

27 posted on 06/19/2013 2:48:16 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: KarlInOhio; Rusty0604

Exactly. The max amount is $ 50 a week. You can eat damn well on that. I spend considerably less per week, not even taking the garden or hunting into consideration.


28 posted on 06/19/2013 2:49:24 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: DannyTN

During the depression and WWII, most families only ate meat (of any kind) once a week. Sunday dinner after Church.

The entire Indian subcontinent is meat free.

Moreover, eggs are great sources of complete protein and cheap to boot. Add in a dozen eggs/wk for a couple bucks per week.

If you think the welfare mamas are buying green veggies NOW you really need to visit a grocery store more often. Those buggies are even less healthy than pinto beans and spaghetti sauce.

I’ve been poor. Very poor. Even now my family eats very well for less than $1.50/person/meal. We just don’t eat ANY processed food. Everything is from scratch.

Meanwhile the ‘buffet’ of bbq, fried foods and oily garlic bread at the local Texaco station just put out an ‘EBT Accepted!’ sign last week. Yeah. That’s healthy stuff. And pricey too. Individual plates are $6.99. Trust me when I tell you that the cardholders who partake of this ‘feast’ are not starving.

One thing of note. The OLDER poor people all have greens growing in their yards somewhere in the winter. And okra and tomatoes and squash in the summer. The under 60’s? Not so much with growing the veg in the yard.


29 posted on 06/19/2013 2:53:25 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Rusty0604
At the supermarket I just bought a family pack of chicken breast for $1.99 a pound. The same store had a package of store-brand white bread on sale for a dollar. So, let's see, that would allow me to make some quarter pound BBQ chicken sandwiches for about 65 cents each.

Buying fruits and veggies at produce outlets instead of the supermarket allows big savings as well.

30 posted on 06/19/2013 2:56:31 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Venturer

It is very expensive these days. Sometime I make my own and freeze some of it since there’s just me to eat it.


31 posted on 06/19/2013 3:30:39 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Buckeye McFrog

And JP Morgan Chase is making money on the cards.


32 posted on 06/19/2013 3:34:37 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

$4.50 per day is well more than I spend, and I eat rather well IMO. Processed crap is not food.


33 posted on 06/19/2013 3:41:16 PM PDT by RobertClark (My shrink just killed himself - he blamed me in his note!)
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To: Rusty0604

Here’s my idea.

Instead of giving the “needy” a means of procuring their own food, which may be spent unwisely or traded for non essential items, let’s give them real food. Heck, even bring it to their door once, twice a month.

Some items:

5lb bag of potatoes
5lb bag of rice
4 lb of assorted beans/lentils
2 gals milk
1 gal orange juice (b vitamins, importnat for kids and pregnant women)
2 lb carrots
2lb onions
2 lb cabbage and/or collard greens
5 lb apples or oranges
1 big jar peanut butter
1 lb sugar
2 lb oatmeal
2 loaves of bread
5 lb frozen chicken legs & thighs
2 lb ground beef
Then add in any surplus produce in season, maybe even a big old block of government cheese

Question: how many of the “needy” would reject this idea because they would actually have to work to prepare and cook their meals. No booze, no smokes, no selling your benefits for drugs, and no prepared foods. Just good, healthy basics. Heck, give them a frying pan, a stock pot, and a sauce pan when the sign up if they claim they can’t afford cookware. Throw in a basic cookbook too

My point is, the “needy” aren’t rally that needy. If you’re really hungry, you would gratefully accept basic food items and learn to cook.


34 posted on 06/19/2013 4:30:23 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: KosmicKitty

Oops, add 2 dozen eggs to the list.


35 posted on 06/19/2013 4:31:42 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Rusty0604

36 posted on 06/19/2013 4:38:40 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: Rusty0604

When my wife and I first married we made beef stew and ate it for a week. We subsisted on it. Things were tough back then. I was making $1.35 an hour.


37 posted on 06/19/2013 4:58:13 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Rusty0604

I just read his shopping list. I wouldn’t want to eat the way he did. The libs will be screaming about his food choices. I’d have gone for eggs, frozen veggies, tuna, mayo, celery, peanut butter, a loaf of bread, butter, and oatmeal. Maybe a bag of apples too. Some of these items always have at least one brand on sale and if you stick to the smallest quantities getting all that food for 30 bucks shouldn’t be a problem.


38 posted on 06/19/2013 5:20:55 PM PDT by old and tired
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To: DannyTN

It does read like a college kid’s menu. But a healthy diet can be done with frozen veggies. Meat can be purchased on the average food stamp budget, but it’d be tough, particularly if you only had one person to buy for. Probably the easiest way is to get protein other than beans and peanuts is out of a can, like tuna. Maybe if the canned chicken was on sale. Otherwise if you want meat, I think you’re looking at hot dogs. Three or four people in the family allows for cheaper per pound peanut butter, mayo, etc., and fresh chicken gets easier in that scenario.


39 posted on 06/19/2013 5:29:12 PM PDT by old and tired
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To: DannyTN
Well, I'm saying cutting food stamps to the poor when unemployment is 23% (shadowstats.com) is guaranteed to cost us elections.

I'll agree with this. However, I just went online to a local supermarket and went through a couple of different scenarios where I was able to eat quite well on $31.50 per week. Also, I don't know what the rules are, (like can I use the cinnamon I've got in my house? I assumed I'd have to buy it). Anyway, each week, as I developed a bit of a food store, my meal selections would improve. For instance, the first week, I had to buy mayonnaise. I wouldn't need to buy that for at least another month. A pound of butter would last at least two weeks, etc. There are always some frozen veggies for a dollar a bag so there's no excuse not to have veggies every single day.

The first week, my protein would come only from eggs, peanut butter and tuna fish, but by week three, I'm buying fresh chicken. If I can use my currently opened jars of peanut butter, mayo, mustard and assorted spices, I'm on fresh chicken the very first week.

Here's a sample daily menu for the first week - breakfast: eggs and toast with a cup of tea. Lunch: A peanut butter sandwich and an apple or alternatively peanut butter and celery sticks. Dinner: Tuna salad and a side of green beans or broccoli. Alternative: Eggs and green beans. Dessert/Snacks: Apples, cinnamon sugar toast

It's a simple, plain diet, but each week it'd get better. I figure the next week, I'd add hot dogs and canned chicken. Here was my grocery list for that menu: 18 eggs, mayonnaise, bag of apples, 5 cans of tuna, cinnamon, sugar, tea, peanut butter, celery, butter, frozen green beans. I had 70 cents left over, which I'd push to the next week.

40 posted on 06/20/2013 4:18:34 AM PDT by old and tired
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