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Doctor recounts frantic 40-minute bid to save James Gandolfini after teen son calls for help
New York Post ^ | June 20, 2013

Posted on 06/20/2013 12:12:28 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Doctors in Italy battled for 40 minutes to save the life of "Sopranos" star James Gandolfini after the actor's 13-year-old son called for help, according to new reports.

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: europeanunion; gandolfini; italy; jamesgandolfini; thesopranos
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1 posted on 06/20/2013 12:12:28 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Would they do the same for a non-celebrity?

Not hardly...


2 posted on 06/20/2013 12:14:11 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Thank you. I woke up this morning feeling a little less cynical than usual . . . .


3 posted on 06/20/2013 12:16:30 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: dragnet2
I don’t know. When I arrested, they worked on me for about 30-35 minutes. I had 2 arrests, was revived once, arrested again, then revived for good.

And I’m no celebrity.

4 posted on 06/20/2013 12:19:03 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: dragnet2
Sorry to say but attempts to revive any 51 year old male suffering from an MI would take this long or longer. My own father was dead before he hit the floor yet the hospital spent at least that long trying to revive him. He was no celebrity but he was my hero.
Come to think of it...he did bear quite a resemblance to George Peppard.
5 posted on 06/20/2013 12:19:18 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Tactical Awareness. Use your brain. Then bring the pain.)
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To: dragnet2

yes, for non-celebrity.

but they wouldn’t make it to the news.


6 posted on 06/20/2013 12:21:51 PM PDT by VAFreedom (maybe i should take a nap before work)
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To: dragnet2

They would. One of my daughters was a paramedic, and they tried to save every person they were called out to.


7 posted on 06/20/2013 12:26:02 PM PDT by livius
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To: nickcarraway

It was hard losing my dd when I was 42. Can’t imagine what it would have been like when I was 13.


8 posted on 06/20/2013 12:27:36 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: dragnet2

That said, he was an excellent actor and did a fantastic job on that show. So he has left behind a wonderful film legacy.


9 posted on 06/20/2013 12:29:08 PM PDT by livius
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To: dragnet2

Why so negative?

The report that I saw earlier said that he was alive when they loaded him in the ambulance.

I don’t think 40 minutes is overzealous before calling the code over.


10 posted on 06/20/2013 12:30:14 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: PghBaldy

Yes... and in a foreign country.

How terrible for the kid.


11 posted on 06/20/2013 12:31:42 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: PghBaldy

I was 13 when I lost mine. That was 38 years ago. I still miss him.


12 posted on 06/20/2013 12:34:54 PM PDT by ExpatCanuck
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To: livius
I have no doubt about that. However, once it was made clear who the patient/victim was and this was probably immediate in this case, the level of care/treatment and efforts made will obviously go far above and beyond what Joe Blow gets when he hits the floor...

Those who would deny this, are not living in reality.

For example, just look at the level of health care for Senators, Congress, the super wealthy etc..As opposed to what Uncle Joe gets in Oklahoma..It's not even comparable...

13 posted on 06/20/2013 12:37:31 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

I guess Uncle Joe needs to grow some bootstraps and elevate himself to a higher position in society, then.

All the EMTs and ER personnel I know would be offended by your comments. They work just as hard to save people regardless of who the person is.


14 posted on 06/20/2013 12:41:14 PM PDT by arbitrary.squid
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To: Winstons Julia
Has nothing to do with negativity.. If you think those in Congress, celebrities and the super-wealthy are afforded the exact same healthcare, treatment and medical efforts as Joe Jackball in Mississippi, I can't help ya.

Learn the difference between negativity and the brutal truth.

15 posted on 06/20/2013 12:42:14 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: nickcarraway

I enjoyed the Sopranos and find it ironic that this happened in Italy.


16 posted on 06/20/2013 12:45:25 PM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: arbitrary.squid
All the EMTs and ER personnel I know would be offended by your comments.

Ya ever see the stories where they wheel out the indigent and the down and out, through the hospital doors and put them on buses to the next town?

17 posted on 06/20/2013 12:45:41 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

beams to him up there... and I agree, he was a very good actor. I was hooked on the show, but I hated and loathed the characters..a scum TV show about scum people...

and don’t ask me why the heck I watched a show in which I detested the characters.... I suppose due to the story arc waiting to see what happened next.

it’s one of my faults.


18 posted on 06/20/2013 12:50:53 PM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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To: dragnet2

I have worked as a provider of emergency and acute care medicine for over 30 years. Most of the cardiac and trauma resuscitations I was involved with lasted 40 minutes or longer. The younger the victim, the longer the resuscitation effort. I personally knew just one of the victims and I pronounced him dead after 45 minutes of intensity - the rest of them were just Joe and Jane Blows

First responders really don’t care who you are or what you do. We aren’t trained that way and when the merde hits the ventilatteur, training takes command.

If you don’t believe that then you are hopelessly cynical.


19 posted on 06/20/2013 12:51:10 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: dragnet2
He's lucky he was in Italy. If it happened here, he'd have to wait for an okay from Kathleen Sebelius.

-PJ

20 posted on 06/20/2013 12:52:42 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: dragnet2

Actually I think they do it for everyone. They certainly did for my sister.


21 posted on 06/20/2013 12:52:48 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: dragnet2

They did it for my sister.She went into cardiac arrest.Just fell over dead.The rescue squad came 20 minutes later and worked on her for another 20 then got her breathing and took her to the hospital.She was brain dead.


22 posted on 06/20/2013 12:53:56 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: dragnet2

No, I can tell you that even the bum on the street gets the same revival efforts.

We’re not talking about on-going health care. I agree, that’s different... our legislators have their own special plan, and of course, the King of Kings, the new, remodeled, divine executive, is probably going to be frozen for future regeneration.

But with emergency care, Gandolfini got what anybody with a chance of life would have gotten. I doubt that they even knew who he was.


23 posted on 06/20/2013 12:55:44 PM PDT by livius
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To: nickcarraway

That’s sad. How hard for that boy to go through that, and end up with his Dad dead.

It’s going to be years for him.


24 posted on 06/20/2013 12:56:44 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: 43north

Your another who thinks celebrities and the superwealthy are afford the same exact level of medical effort, care and treatment as everyone else?

lol...

Your trip back down to reality will probably take some time.


25 posted on 06/20/2013 12:59:23 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

They also did it for my father who was 78 at the time. The paramedic told me they did everything they could but could not revive. They worked on him from his friend’s house where he fell asleep from the house to the ER room they worked on him even in the ER room but my father unfortunately did not come back. So yes they also do that for non-celebrity.


26 posted on 06/20/2013 1:03:19 PM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: dragnet2

I live in reality. I’m not sure about where you live. From your statements it seems a very bitter and resentful place.


27 posted on 06/20/2013 1:04:00 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: livius

I have to agree. He’s well known in the US, but I bet the Italians didn’t know who he was either. Unless you’re some internationally famous star, which I’d be surprised if JG is, they probably just thought he was a wealthy American tourist.


28 posted on 06/20/2013 1:06:36 PM PDT by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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To: 43north
Snort!!

Ha!!

29 posted on 06/20/2013 1:07:49 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Life is a bitch. If it was easy, we would call it a slut)
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To: dragnet2

Well at least in California celebrities and superwealty get the same treatment as the bum on the street because emergency workers can’t tell them apart when the celebs are on a drug alcohol binge.


30 posted on 06/20/2013 1:08:20 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (A bad hair day is not a mental issue, or is it?)
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To: 43north
I could not help but notice you completely evaded the question. Here it is once again:

Your another who thinks celebrities and the superwealthy are afford the same exact level of medical effort, care and treatment as everyone else?

You actually believe this?

Yes or no?

31 posted on 06/20/2013 1:08:40 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: nickcarraway

Doctor” Take THAT for what you did to Big Pussy”

Could we not wax so eloquent about an average actor who was given the role of his lifetime and then had the “how can I get idolized” strategy to die young?

If Howard Winkler had died after the first 5 seasons of Happy Days we would be talking about him in the same breathless tones as Gandolfini and James Dean.

The best line about actors came surprisingly during a scene in the movie “My Favorite Year” when two neighbors speaking about Peter O’Toole hanging down below their balcony exclaim

” I believe that Alan Swann is beneath us”

“Of course he is beneath us “ claims the neighbor “he is an actor”


32 posted on 06/20/2013 1:13:27 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: nickcarraway

I wonder if he was under a physician’s care including medication for a heart or cardiovascular condition. With deference to obamacare, cardiology these days has really prolonged a lot of lives.


33 posted on 06/20/2013 1:16:06 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Political Junkie Too
If it happened here, he'd have to wait for an okay from Kathleen Sebelius.

"Please hold while I ring the NSA and get his voting records from the past five elections..."


34 posted on 06/20/2013 1:20:27 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: dragnet2

When my stepdad died from his heart attack in 1984, the emergency responders worked for more than a half-hour on him at the house and continued to do so while transporting him to the hospital. He didn’t make it, but those paramedics worked their asses off trying to save him.

I don’t buy the idea celebrities get better treatment just because of who they are.


35 posted on 06/20/2013 1:24:59 PM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: ScottinVA

OK, so you’re another who beleives celebrities, politicians and the super-wealthy are afforded the same exact level of medical effort, care and treatment as everyone else!

Go it!


36 posted on 06/20/2013 1:28:16 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

The problem is, you don’t understand what is normal for a code blue. I worked in a US hospital for five years in an ER. There are a number of paramedics in the family. And the area I worked had many “Joe Jackballs”.

Forty minutes absolutely IS NOT going over and above the call of duty in a code blue situation.

In short, your assumption that Gandolfini got some kind of “super special” treatment here because he’s a celebrity is bunkum.


37 posted on 06/20/2013 1:29:46 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: dragnet2

Did I say that? No. So let’s keep it within the context of the discussion, shall we?


38 posted on 06/20/2013 1:31:19 PM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: arbitrary.squid

Dragnet’s completely wrong. Seems to have decided to shoot off his mouth before doing any research about codes blue or even *thinking* about what he was typing.


39 posted on 06/20/2013 1:32:16 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: ScottinVA

To be clear, my use of the word “treatment” was intended within the context of emergency treatment.


40 posted on 06/20/2013 1:34:26 PM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: ScottinVA

Oh, okay Scott...

I just can’t get anyone to answer the question...Seems to be a thread full of those who run for the tall grass when asked uncomfortable and difficult questions.

Take care!


41 posted on 06/20/2013 1:47:22 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Winstons Julia

Instead of continually evading question at #31, feel free to answer it!


42 posted on 06/20/2013 1:51:29 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: livius
One of my daughters was a paramedic, and they tried to save every person they were called out to.

God bless them for what they do!

Regards,
GtG

43 posted on 06/20/2013 1:57:09 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Winstons Julia

Those stupid peons think they're afforded the same level of health care, medical response, medical effort and treatment as we and our well connected friends get!!!

44 posted on 06/20/2013 1:57:57 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

What the heck is the matter with you? What do you have against first responders?

Unless, of course, you’re an instigator and a troll trying to cut down the best among us.

Could that describe you? Seeing your posts, I think it does.


45 posted on 06/20/2013 2:00:58 PM PDT by livius
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To: dragnet2
I'LL answer it.

In a code blue situation the LAST thing the response team thinks is: "Gee, is this guy rich or famous? Guess we better give him extra good care."

And 40 minutes is quite reasonable for a code.

The only time I've seen a code go on for longer than that is on kids.

Why? You can often get young hearts started again.

Not often seen in obese adults with terrible CAD.

Gandolfini was a goner, and no amount of ACLS would ever bring him back.

But the Italian ER gave him a chance by at least trying.

46 posted on 06/20/2013 2:01:46 PM PDT by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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To: nickcarraway

Ping to nick.


47 posted on 06/20/2013 2:01:57 PM PDT by livius
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To: dragnet2

Actually they probably would have. A friend of mine died pretty much the same way last month and they spent nearly an hour trying to resuscitate him.


48 posted on 06/20/2013 2:05:55 PM PDT by discostu (Go do the voodoo that you do so well.)
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To: dragnet2

Sorry but you’re just spouting vile class warfare leftist lies. You should feel shame spouting such filth.


49 posted on 06/20/2013 2:08:01 PM PDT by discostu (Go do the voodoo that you do so well.)
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To: PghBaldy
It was hard losing my dd when I was 42. Can’t imagine what it would have been like when I was 13.

I was 10 when my dad died of cancer at age 53. I was 53 when I was diagnosed with cancer, that will rock your world.

My mom died of cancer when was was 60, I was 30. Since than I lost my eldest brother to cancer and the middle brother has survived cancer (so far). I'm pushing 70 and still keep an eye out for the "guy with the scythe". I stay current on all screening and diagnostic testing. Currently wondering if ObamaCare is going to be the undoing of my winning streak...

Regards,
GtG

50 posted on 06/20/2013 2:09:01 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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