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U.S. group that ‘converted’ gays closes its doors and apologizes
Reuters ^ | Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:30pm EDT | Daniel Trotta

Posted on 06/20/2013 1:48:42 PM PDT by Olog-hai

A Christian group that once promoted therapy to encourage gays and lesbians to overcome their sexual preferences has closed its doors and apologized to homosexuals, acknowledging its mission had been hurtful and ignorant.

Exodus International billed itself as the oldest and largest Christian ministry dealing with faith and homosexuality, operating since 1976. It announced it would cease operations in a statement on its website on Wednesday.

The Irvine, California-based group’s board unanimously voted to close Exodus International and begin a separate ministry, the statement said. …

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Religion; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: 666; alanchambers; christians; exgays; exodusinternational; homosexualagenda; ministry
Undermined by Alan Chambers?
1 posted on 06/20/2013 1:48:42 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Since when is helping mentally ill people something to apologize for?


2 posted on 06/20/2013 2:01:28 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: Olog-hai
Somebody made somebody else an offer they couldn't refuse.
3 posted on 06/20/2013 2:05:18 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Religious faith in government is far crazier than religious faith in God.)
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To: Olog-hai

Sounds like the group got infiltrated.


4 posted on 06/20/2013 2:06:07 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Olog-hai

Whiskey tango foxtrot?


5 posted on 06/20/2013 2:07:34 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Olog-hai
A Christian group that once promoted therapy to encourage gays and lesbians to overcome their sexual preferences has closed its doors and apologized to homosexuals, acknowledging its mission had been hurtful and ignorant.

Huh? Wut?

The truth can sometimes seem 'hurtful', but it is never ignorant.

'Turn or Burn' might seem 'hurtful', but it will hurt a lot more not to turn and to spend an eternity in hell...

What were their specific apologies? If they want to apologize about their methods, then maybe they have a point. I understand that it is a 'rooters' article, so it might not be an accurate portrayal, but the article makes it sound like the Exodus Group focused on 'role playing', and never placarded the Gospel (the 'Good News' to save sinners) as the means of healing. If that's the case - sure, go ahead and apologize, you weren't doing it right.

The Lord Jesus Christ came to save sinners. We are all sinners and there is none that He cannot save. But we are not to remain in our sins (He did not condemn the woman caught in adultery, but as He said to her, 'Go and sin no more').
Repent ye therefore and be converted...

6 posted on 06/20/2013 2:08:30 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

Precisely.


7 posted on 06/20/2013 2:08:40 PM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: SECURE AMERICA
Since when is helping mentally ill people something to apologize for?

Since the lunatics are now running the asylum.

8 posted on 06/20/2013 2:13:28 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: dfwgator

That’s why I was trying to figure out how long Chambers was involved with them. He was only four years old when they started up in 1976, after all.


9 posted on 06/20/2013 2:13:35 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Something just isn’t right in this story......


10 posted on 06/20/2013 2:13:35 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: SECURE AMERICA
Let's saw we had a group of people who really, really enjoyed swimming in sewage treatment ponds.

Would you apologize over educating them of the dangers of doing so and helping them discover that swimming in clean lakes would be far more enjoyable?

11 posted on 06/20/2013 2:15:53 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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Let's saw = Let's say . . .

Sorry.

12 posted on 06/20/2013 2:16:48 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Olog-hai; a fool in paradise

Somebody needs to aim the sensor of a well calibrated Gaydar device at Mr Chambers.


13 posted on 06/20/2013 2:18:20 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Olog-hai

14 posted on 06/20/2013 2:19:38 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Olog-hai

2 years and yes, he’s gay.


15 posted on 06/20/2013 2:21:36 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: Olog-hai

According to AFR (American Family Radio), Chambers’ rationale was that he continued to suffer same-sex attraction.

So what?

This is true also for alcoholics, rehabilitated molesters, former porn addicts, recovering druggies, etc.

It’s OVERCOMING that matters, not necessarily disappearance of same-sex attractions.

This is a betrayal of the hundreds of thousands of people who have overcome this battle and are living happy married lives — with children.

Must be a case of infiltration, as someone above suggested.


16 posted on 06/20/2013 2:21:42 PM PDT by Elpasser
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To: JCBreckenridge

He joined to destroy them, then. That clinches that.


17 posted on 06/20/2013 2:22:49 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
I have been reading some very disturbing things about Exodus for the last year. The leaders of Exodus have developed some very strange theological beliefs, and they have completely separated themselves from the Evangelical community. It is a good thing that Exodus is going away. If you are interested in this subject, I have found Dr. Robert Gagnon’s work in this area to be very helpful.
18 posted on 06/20/2013 2:26:56 PM PDT by Nemoque
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To: Olog-hai

Yep. Sad to see.


19 posted on 06/20/2013 2:28:12 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: KosmicKitty

Whats messed up is if a heterosexual goes to the psychiatrist and says he wants to be treated for being too sexual the psychologist will do whatever it takes. If a homosexual goes to a psychologist and says he doesn’t want to be homosexual the psychologist can not at all attempt to convert him as the APA believes it will do more harm than good.


20 posted on 06/20/2013 2:33:07 PM PDT by aft_lizard
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To: Olog-hai; Revolting cat!; GeronL

Has the sex freak who does Elmo apologized yet?


22 posted on 06/20/2013 2:36:46 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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Just listened to an interview with one of the principals Exodus VP Randy Thomas of this group on a Catholic Radio Station. This is what I got out of it. Seems they think(Randy and others in their group) that their group mission wasnt’ focused enough on Christ, the good news and salvation but on changing the homosexual. They, in some circles, were viewed of being a characterization of what the homosexuals say or demonize about them/Christians. The focus wasn’t on Christ nor chastity but changing the homosexual through “...sexual orientation change efforts and reparative theories about sexual orientation that stigmatized parents.”

In contrast, Catholicism preaches chastity for all and love of the sinner, and hate the sin... but not necessarily a church factory dedicated to obliterating homosexual thoughts and tendencies —homosexual deconstruction. Forgive me, and thankfully, I am not a expert on this topic.
Look elsewhere for that!


23 posted on 06/20/2013 2:38:57 PM PDT by RBStealth
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To: RBStealth
In contrast, Catholicism preaches, but does not practice, chastity for all

There. Fixed it.

24 posted on 06/20/2013 3:20:07 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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To: Olog-hai

“That clinches that.”

Let me add this quote to my “things not to post on a gay rights thread” list.


25 posted on 06/20/2013 3:24:48 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This has Obama’s paw prints all over it.


26 posted on 06/20/2013 3:41:29 PM PDT by Wellington VII
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To: Dr. Thorne

I am not your enemy or someone to hold in contention.


27 posted on 06/20/2013 3:41:59 PM PDT by RBStealth
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To: dfwgator; Chode

“Sounds like the group got infiltrated.’

from other stories I’ve read, yea it did.


28 posted on 06/20/2013 3:50:59 PM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana
like the Duke said, never apologize, it's a sign of weakness...
29 posted on 06/20/2013 4:48:39 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: a fool in paradise

apology nothing.Elmo perv won awards


30 posted on 06/20/2013 6:32:44 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: aft_lizard

Not exactly. A sex addict of any sexual orientation should be able to get treatment from a mainstream psychiatrist (I assume that’s what you mean by a heterosexual wanting treatment for being “too sexual”). However, if the heterosexual expressed a desire to change his/her sexual orientation to homosexual, he/she would be told, truthfully, that that’s impossible. Treating sex addiction and changing sexual orientation are tow different things.


31 posted on 06/20/2013 7:31:56 PM PDT by SoCal SoCon (Conservatism =/= Corporatism.)
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To: SoCal SoCon

“tow” = “two”. Apologies.


32 posted on 06/20/2013 7:32:37 PM PDT by SoCal SoCon (Conservatism =/= Corporatism.)
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To: Elpasser

“This is a betrayal of the hundreds of thousands of people who have overcome this battle and are living happy married lives — with children.”

But they don’t matter to homosexual activists and lefties. All they focus on are the “failures”. There could be hundreds of thousands of happily married ex-gays with children, yet it only takes one or two who fall back to “discredit” them all.


33 posted on 06/20/2013 8:24:14 PM PDT by oohebo
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To: El Cid

There needs to be some work lookig back at the homosexuals/lesbians relationships with their parents especially their fathers. The father is truly the head of the family. If there was a Christian approach of forgiveness for failings of the parents, I believe that this can be a way to reach these people.

It is about Christian healing which always involves forgiveness and asking God to forgive our resentments. This is a spiritual problem that has to be dealt with at the root of the problem.


34 posted on 06/21/2013 6:45:17 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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