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Unable to pay for husband's funeral, Apple Valley woman allegedy buries him in backyard
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| 06/21/2013
| Beatriz E. Valenzuela
Posted on 06/21/2013 7:33:40 AM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: Salgak
The government is just upset because it couldn’t reach into the dead man’s pants and steal his wallet.
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posted on
06/21/2013 8:00:08 AM PDT
by
corlorde
(forWARD of the state)
To: JCBreckenridge
“Its contrary to Christian teachings.”
How?
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posted on
06/21/2013 8:01:10 AM PDT
by
HereInTheHeartland
(Just wanted to say I hope you great NSA folks are enjoying my posts here.)
To: JCBreckenridge
“Its contrary to Christian teachings. I would sooner violate the law of the state regarding cemetery burial than violate the law of God against cremation.”
Can you please tell me which scripture prohibits cremation?
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posted on
06/21/2013 8:02:58 AM PDT
by
treetopsandroofs
(Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
To: JCBreckenridge
Its contrary to Christian teachings. How so?
I know a lot of people feel that way and I respect those feelings. The big government-funeral industry alliance have, unfortunately, exploited those feelings as a way to line their pockets.
Japan, Korea, Taiwan and many other Asian country have millions of Christians where cremation is the only option. I don't think Jesus Christ considers them any less Christian by the way they lived their lives just because their burial options were limited.
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posted on
06/21/2013 8:05:26 AM PDT
by
Vigilanteman
(Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
To: muir_redwoods
Speaking of death certificates, I was livid with Forest Lawn (they'd taken over another mortuary that went bankrupt, so we were 'pre-paid stuck') after my Mom died.....they held one back - that I'd paid for - so they could send it to the insurer so THEY'd get paid.
When I got my seven copies, I got on the horn to the regional manager, tore her a new a-hole, and had the additional copy hand delivered the next day.
I can't say enough bad about Forest Lawn.
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posted on
06/21/2013 8:06:30 AM PDT
by
ErnBatavia
(Piffle....)
To: Vigilanteman
The big deal is that the funeral industry has made burial prohibitively expensive for people of limited means.
Bump that!
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posted on
06/21/2013 8:06:58 AM PDT
by
AD from SpringBay
(We deserve the government we allow.)
To: JoeProBono
is the wife one of these ladies?
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posted on
06/21/2013 8:07:38 AM PDT
by
ZinGirl
(kids in college....can't afford a tagline right now)
To: Vigilanteman
a little cheaper...but cremation usually still requires you buy a coffin. go figure.
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posted on
06/21/2013 8:08:34 AM PDT
by
ZinGirl
(kids in college....can't afford a tagline right now)
To: cuban leaf
cremation isn’t just throwing a body in a shalow hole. she would have had wildlife digging that body up and leaving parts all over.
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posted on
06/21/2013 8:09:25 AM PDT
by
Secret Agent Man
(Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
To: Jonty30
i didn’t get the impression anyone was going to go after her for this from what was posted.
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posted on
06/21/2013 8:10:43 AM PDT
by
Secret Agent Man
(Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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posted on
06/21/2013 8:10:59 AM PDT
by
xone
To: Vigilanteman
I can see common sense regulations such as prohibiting burials on a hillside subject to erosion and landslides or places likely to pollute the water supply.
Thing is, around here if a cow dies you can just bury it. And it’s a lot bigger than a human, and all that that implies related to the quoted comment above. ;-)
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posted on
06/21/2013 8:12:16 AM PDT
by
cuban leaf
(Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
To: Secret Agent Man
she would have had wildlife digging that body up and leaving parts all over.
I’m with you. There is a reason we bury people so deep.
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posted on
06/21/2013 8:12:52 AM PDT
by
cuban leaf
(Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
To: Vigilanteman
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posted on
06/21/2013 8:13:41 AM PDT
by
JoeProBono
(Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
To: ZinGirl
Yep. The industry-big government alliance still needs to get their cut. Still the average cremation is $1500 to $2000, still WAY less than the average funeral cost, especially when you add the costs of vaults, plots, etc.
I'm seriously considering opening up a Japanese style cemetery as I see the cremation trend definitely as a growth industry, but I'll bet there would be a maze of regulations to make ensure the industry-big government alliance still gets their cut.
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posted on
06/21/2013 8:14:30 AM PDT
by
Vigilanteman
(Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
To: ZinGirl
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posted on
06/21/2013 8:14:44 AM PDT
by
JoeProBono
(Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
To: twister881
I hope Sunset Hills Memorial Park and Mortuary in Apple Valley will step in and help if there has been no foul play.I would think Chet Hitt (owner & former family member)would help if he knew of the story. He's rarely in AV these days, however.
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posted on
06/21/2013 8:18:10 AM PDT
by
zlala
(Thank you for the ultimate sacrifice Capt. Aaron R. Blanchard, KIA 4-23-13, Pul-E-Alam, Afghanistan.)
To: cuban leaf
Thing is, around here if a cow dies you can just bury it. And its a lot bigger than a human, and all that that implies related to the quoted comment above. ;-)Your logic is correct, but again it is a cultural thing. People would be far less grossed out by cow remains washing down a hillside than by human remains.
So, yes, I am willing to cut the big government-funeral industry alliance a little slack for common sense regulations and the fact that our culture still respects humans more than cows. But no more.
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posted on
06/21/2013 8:18:26 AM PDT
by
Vigilanteman
(Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
To: Vigilanteman
“Japan, Korea, Taiwan and many other Asian country have millions of Christians where cremation is the only option. I don’t think Jesus Christ considers them any less Christian by the way they lived their lives just because their burial options were limited.”
The idea higher up in the thread is that ‘the body is nothing and the soul is everything’. Christians believe that the body is an essential part, and we believe in bodily resurrection. So - whenever possible a Christian should preserve the body in it’s final state.
Law prohibiting Christian burial are unjust laws and should be disregarded.
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posted on
06/21/2013 8:18:33 AM PDT
by
JCBreckenridge
(Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
To: Salgak
How sad. Please say a prayer for her.
Government....in the days of the old west the dearly departed were lucky to be laid to rest with a tombstone. These days, TPTB would rather use them as Soylent Green The NSA bldg in SA is perhaps the ‘Carousel” (A la Logans Run) A round in a square so to speak
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posted on
06/21/2013 8:19:52 AM PDT
by
V K Lee
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