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Bureaucracy, Lawyers and the backyard swimming pool. (Vanity)
Vanity | 6/21/2013 | BwanaNdege

Posted on 06/21/2013 10:32:05 AM PDT by BwanaNdege

My neighbor was bemoaning the fact that he did not have enough flat ground on his lot to put up a 16' diameter x 3' deep above ground pool. It would be the simple kind with the inflatable ring around the top to add rigidity.

Since we have a flat spot next to his driveway, I suggested that he put it up there. To be safe, I checked with the county. Oh, boy!

Zoning - "It has to be 10 feet from the property line."

Me - "But the property line is with the neighbor who wants to put up the pool!"

Zoning - "It doesn't matter."

Building permits - "You need Sanitation to inspect that it is not near your septic tank. That will take 2 to 3 three weeks. We don't know what their fee is. You will need a $99 (min) building permit from zoning. If it is deeper than 24", you need a fence."

Prior to checking with the county, I Googled "backyard pool liability". The first three pages of hits were for the law firms telling, "We can make you rich by suing your neighbor, his insurance company, the pool maker, the fence installer, etc., etc."

Looks like another hot summer.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: freedom; liability; vanity; zoning

1 posted on 06/21/2013 10:32:05 AM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: BwanaNdege

in my town, you need a permit to REPLACE an existing fence with $100 permit fee of course


2 posted on 06/21/2013 10:35:11 AM PDT by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: BwanaNdege

No pool anywhere is the safest, legally speaking. You could have one completely in your own backyard, with 10 foot fences topped with broken glass, no gates and you’d still have insurance issues.


3 posted on 06/21/2013 10:35:21 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: BwanaNdege
Just get one of these, then you can deflate it and hide it from the zoning bastards when you're not using it:


4 posted on 06/21/2013 10:39:47 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

That pool looks like an e-coli breeding zone. Just sayin’.


5 posted on 06/21/2013 10:41:31 AM PDT by madison10
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To: PMAS

Then don’t “replace” it! Carry out ‘major repairs’ to the limit allowed.


6 posted on 06/21/2013 10:43:47 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: Boogieman

I think THAT is the one he’s talking about.


7 posted on 06/21/2013 10:45:50 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: BwanaNdege

it’d be cheaper for him to rent a mini-dozer and grade a flat spot in his own lot. and a lot less headache, cost, and risk for you.


8 posted on 06/21/2013 10:47:45 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: I am Richard Brandon
Then don’t “replace” it! Carry out ‘major repairs’ to the limit allowed.

That's what I did a few years ago. Replaced the chain links, top rail, all the mounting hardware, repainted the posts and re-set one of them that was too close to a tree. What the city didn't know won't hurt them. Did the same to a 12' long privacy fence next to my patio. The only original parts left were the two posts, but I stick to my claim that I just repaired it.

9 posted on 06/21/2013 10:47:59 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (This message has been recorded but not approved by Obama's StasiNet. Read it at your peril.)
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To: BwanaNdege

Local government (county or municipality depending on where you are), doing everything they can to make sure WE only do what THEY want on OUR property. All part of taking control, and implementing Agenda 21. When they make it such a burden to do something simple, they nudge us into compliance with their desire to let them decide for us what is appropriate!


10 posted on 06/21/2013 10:50:36 AM PDT by Kay Ludlow (Government actions ALWAYS have unintended consequences...)
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To: Boogieman

That’s exactly what he’s saying he wants to use.


11 posted on 06/21/2013 10:54:11 AM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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To: BwanaNdege

Jack Welch, past Chairman of the General Electric Company, wrote these comments for GE’s Annual Report, 2000:

“Annihilating Bureaucracy.”

“We cultivate the hatred of bureaucracy in our Company and never for a moment hesitate to use that awful word “hate.” Bureaucrats must be ridiculed and removed. They multiply in organizational layers and behind functional walls—which means that every day must be a battle to demolish this structure and keep the organization open, ventilated and free. Even if bureaucracy is largely exterminated, as it has been at GE, people need to be vigilant—even paranoid—because the allure of bureaucracy is part of human nature and hard to resist, and it can return in the blink of an eye. Bureaucracy frustrates people, distorts their priorities, limits their dreams and turns the face of the entire enterprise inward.”

“In a digitized world, the internal workings of companies will be exposed to the world, and bureaucracies will be seen by all for what they are: slow, self-absorbed, customer insensitive—even silly.”


12 posted on 06/21/2013 10:58:51 AM PDT by BobNative
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To: BwanaNdege

You should check out overlawyered.com which “chronicles the high cost of our legal system.” The site is maintained by the Cato Institute.


13 posted on 06/21/2013 11:28:43 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: BwanaNdege

A swimming pool of any sort on one’s property is an invitation to a multi million dollar lawsuit.


14 posted on 06/21/2013 11:32:18 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: madison10

Meh, you can say that for any pool.


15 posted on 06/21/2013 11:34:09 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: MeganC

I don’t see why he bothered calling zoning then. They would have probably never even noticed him using it. Now that he’s set them on his scent, they’ll probably be snooping around.


16 posted on 06/21/2013 11:35:42 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: BwanaNdege

They never know when to stop, and they would not stop if they did, It is called job insurance for people who are too stupid and worthless to do anything except make it hard for every one else.


17 posted on 06/21/2013 11:44:56 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: camle
it’d be cheaper for him to rent a mini-dozer and grade a flat spot in his own lot. and a lot less headache, cost, and risk for you.


Ahh.. would that need a draining permit and a sign off from an engineer that you are not upsetting the natural drainage...:^)

18 posted on 06/21/2013 1:31:19 PM PDT by az_gila
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To: BobNative

WOW!

Good quote.


19 posted on 06/21/2013 5:42:34 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: az_gila

well i certainly would not be having a neighbor setup a pool,. swing set, etc. on my property. my property - my liability. my insurance goes up at the very least. and if, God forbid, something happens, say goodbye to everything you own...and for what?


20 posted on 06/24/2013 7:26:12 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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