Skip to comments.Paula Deen SACKED From Food Network Hours After She Makes Grovelling Apology Over Racial Slurs
Posted on 06/21/2013 2:06:31 PM PDT by drewh
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She did say that MO te a lot, all the time, during breaks etc. I assumed part of the uproar over her “racist” remarks was because of this.
Hey, First Lady cook your books, your looks and your knowledge of who’s supposedly the President of the United States of America. Grow a garden, tell us how to eat, and vacation at Our expense- just, leave Paula Deen on our side of your plantation.
This is an awful thing. Someone tells the truth, and they are punished for it. That is my takeaway.
Tonight after seeing your discussion of early slavery in Connecticut and Virginia, I thought I would look up slavery in New York. Here is what I found (caution, it is from Wikipedia). See: Link
Slavery in New York began when the Dutch West India Company imported 11 African slaves to New Amsterdam in 1626, with the first slave auction being held in New Amsterdam in 1655. ...
I found mention in the Wikipedia article of the Dutch West India Company which imported slaves to New York and mentioned the company's stations in Angola.
While the majority of shipments went to the Dutch colonies in the Caribbean, a number of slaves were not imported directly from the company's stations in Angola to New Netherlands to clear the forests, lay the roads, and provide other public services to the colony.
By the way, the John Casor legal case in Virginia that declared him in servitude for the rest of his life was in 1655. Slavery of Africans in New York/New Amsterdam had been practices since 1626. I would not be surprised, however, if there were slaves in Virginia earlier than Casor.
Liberal or not, she told the truth and got fired. No a person in this country that has not said the same thing. Blacks call each other that word all the time. It’s a bad of honor for them. Da be tinking it be cool.
I despise PC feel-gooders. They make me sick to my stomach
I also despise the Jesse Jackson-coined phrase “African-American”. What in the hell is wrong with calling yourself an American? Most blacks have been in this country a hell a hell of alot longer than my Scottish family and I damn sure don’t call myself a “scottish-american”. Show me in the Constitution where it says no one can use that particular word to describe someone with black skin, green skin, white skin? A word is a word. This is a free country. OK for blacks to say it every other word out of their mouths, but not white people? I don’t play that crap. You don’t want to be an American get the hell out of the country and make room for someone that wants to be a American. Saying the word negro would have even gotten her fired. That term, with the correct term for any person of african decent, is also a baaaaaaaaaaaaad word. Colored?? Forgot about. You must bow down to them and call them “African-American” or have your life ruined. Liberalism is a mental disease.
If Lincoln were alive today he would be the Grand Dragon of the KKK. He has to be the most racist of all presidents. He wanted to ship them all back to Africa, said many times that the black man was inferior to the white man. But the great Lincoln is now the great hero to all democrats and RINOs. I just wish the South had not ran out of men to fight the war. A Southern victory and the murdering Lincoln would have been hanged from the highest tree, with the psychopath Sherman right beside him.
Years ago before WWII we lived in a very ethnic diverse neighborhood. The children all had their own call out for the different nationalities and no doubt were influenced by parents talk. My brother and I being of Russian parents were often referred to as Bolsheviks. There were names for Jews, for Portuguese, especially for Germans, for Africans, for Italians, for Pollocks, for Mexicans. The most frequent for Scandinavians was ‘dumb’. As I recall the children didn’t think about the nicknames. When the time came we all went to WWII with good memories of our childhood activities without regret or rancor.
[Michelle Obama] probably ate more than any other guest I ever had on the show! She kept eating even during commercials. Know what [the Obamas] favorite foods are? Hot wings.”
Well, it was racist of her to point that out!/s;)
Who does she think she is - Mel Brooks?
Long before Johnson owned a slave, the original "nigars" we repurchased and owned by someone (as far as I know we don't know whom), but we do know that in VA they did not have political rights, and in 1638 there was a slave auction in VA---to my knowledge no "indentured servant" auction ever occurred, because indentures were not regarded under English (borrowing from Roman) law defined as "movable property" as were VA slaves. So it is clear that at least in some (I would say, most) cases, "nigars" arrived with the presumption of servitude. Again, treatment gives clues as to STATUS, butt not PRACTICE. That is, any freeman at any time prior to the institutionalization of slavery in the mid1600s could free EITHER a slave or indenture. Some did, many did not.
iIn 1640, a slave was branded according to VA legal records. This did NOT occur with free men who had voluntarily signed indenture contracts. It is true that terms of indenture could be extended for a variety of reasons, sometimes effectively for life. But even then indentures were not viewed as disposable property. Indentures were NOT routinely chained, ESP. After arrival at destination. (Again, you can find exceptions for criminals placed into indenture in lieu of jail---but even these had time limits on their service.)
Someone bought and owned the 1619 "nigars" and someone bought "slaves" (all black) in 1638. Laws differed by colony---we have a black man apparently srvng in the MD legislature in 1640 or so.
In short, anyone thinking Johnson represented typical status of most blacks in the south prior to 1650 is making a serious mistake. There were actual blacks TREATED as indentures---but to my knowledge none ever signed a contract, nor were the signatures (or witness testimony) of black indentures ever recognized (whites were), but the majority were not freed or the numbers of free men of color would have exploded between 1620 and 1660, but instead salve numbers grew.
Thanks. Now I know more about slaves than I ever thought I would.
Only in your lunatic dreams.
He has to be the most racist of all presidents.
Nope, that would be Wilson.
He wanted to ship them all back to Africa, said many times that the black man was inferior to the white man.
Only fractionally true.
But the great Lincoln is now the great hero to all democrats and RINOs.
And thinking conservatives.
I just wish the South had not ran out of men to fight the war. A Southern victory and the murdering Lincoln would have been hanged from the highest tree, with the psychopath Sherman right beside him.
It never could have happened, and thank God it didn't happen. The slaverocrasy's Confederacy of Evil would have been an indelible stain upon our continent. Thank God it died.
“And thinking conservatives”
Lincoln was a big government socialist. Now why in the world do you think conservatives would care for the politics of the man who took all control from the states and centralized everything in Washington, DC. And why would would they care for a man that gave them the unconstitutional income tax?
Wow, you said it best, great post!
Only in your lunatic dreams.
Now why in the world do you think conservatives would care for the politics of the man who took all control from the states and centralized everything in Washington, DC.
Because true conservatives recognize the untruth of your words.
And why would would they care for a man that gave them the unconstitutional income tax?
Now that one is a bit stickier. It's true that Lincoln gave us the income tax. It's interesting to note that prior to the war the way that the government received its revenues was through tariffs - that is, taxing goods as they came into our ports. But the democrats in the south never wanted to pay their fair share and always opposed tariffs. Democrats, then as today, wanted their cake and to eat it, too.
It's also interesting to note that the confeds imposed their own "federal" income tax, on top of quotas, rationing, and state seizure of private industry, to pay for their war. Good for the goose, eh?
Thinking conservatives recognize the need for some federal revenue but seek to limit it to essentials and with plenty of oversight. Freedom ain't free. You're probably one of those who excuses himself to the bathroom when the pass the hat to pay for the party.
A Dutch slave trader exchanged his cargo of Africans for food in 1619. The Africans became indentured servants, similar in legal position to many poor Englishmen who traded several years of labor in exchange for passage to America.
My post 204 mentioned slavery in New York that began in 1626. I did find a more accurate description of slavery in New York, probably the source for the Wikipedia link I posted in 204. Here is the more accurate link that says essentially the same thing: More accurate source.
Spain established settlements/colonies within what is now the continental US earlier than England or Holland established their colonies. Here is a site that mentions slavery in Florida as early as 1565[Link]:
Four and a half centuries ago, St. Augustine was the hub of the slave trade in Spanish colonial Florida, a distinction that continued through the early 1800s.
The slave trade was part of the capital city's economy from its founding in 1565, when Spanish explorer and founder Pedro Menendez de Aviles included black slaves among the New World's first Spanish settlers.
"The Spanish Crown was one of the largest slaveholders, workers on the defense works," said St. Augustine historian Susan R. Parker. And, though many of the records from that period are lost, documents from the Catholic Church reveal slavery's deep roots in North Florida's history.
In 1606, one year before the founding of Jamestown, Va., the first documented slave birth was recorded in St. Augustine. Agustin was baptized in the Catholic faith. He was the son of Agustin and Francisca, both listed as slaves in church baptismal records.
There already was slavery among the native peoples before Europeans arrived. For example, in Mexico and Central America [Link] and in New Mexico where Indians were made slaves and had slaves themselves [Link 2]:
According to the reports of the first Europeans to visit the New World, slavery was almost universal in what is now Mexico and Central America. Theoretically, with the arrival of Europeans, that should have changed.
Yes, I’ve studied these laws for years in different contexts. See Fogel, “Without Consent or Contract,” David Brion David, “History of Slavery in the Western World.” The major issue is the terminology of “slave” that disappeared in Europe and was replaced with these other categories, but the law did not catch up with the terms until the mid-1600s. Until the early 1700s, there was NO presumed racial slavery in the US, but I do think the evidence shows considerable more leeway in calling blacks “slaves” rather than servants or indentures.
There really is no reason to offend people randomly with a hateful slur. Its not that hard to be better than that.
Best post here. Most people here are not very caring. I would be wholly insulted if I heard an ethnic slur on any group. I don’t believe in it. Everyone is allowed to joke about their own group. It is hateful to use slurs and someone public should never even think them. Who cares where you were brought up.
However, some here have good points about how some people don’t suffer as much backlash against their speech as others. Clinton, Byrd.
African were among indentured servants, but they were freed after a period of service. That's how there were free blacks in the colonies.
The Virginia case was the first person indentured 'for life', which is something I consider distinct from indentured servitude that brought people of all races to the colonies.
I grew up with two whites and two blacks as a group of friends. We couldn’t care less about race but the parents were each racist in their own way. One black set of parents were Black Panthers, in the military. Go figure. We never gave a second thought to racism. We were kids growing up and having a good time.
She said this WAAAAY before she was a “star”.
You know what. We, as conservatives, should stand for right and against wrong. NO MATTER WHO IT IS. The liberals are the ones who support their political and attack the other side regardless of right and wrong. Not us. They lynching happening to her right now is WRONG. WRONG WRONG WRONG.
Jim Crowe laws started in the North
I thought her son Bobby’s show was on the Cooking channel??
New York State constitution 1821
Please get an education and learn to do research. Stop being so lazy. I know the public school system passed you from grade to grade and never really taught you to learn but now’s your chance. Google is available to every and not just us rich white guys.
Assuming that I am under the impression that race relations were perfect in Northern states would be a mistake. Assuming that I am under the impression that restrictive covenants, miscegenation laws, and other unequal policies did not exist in such areas would likewise be in error.
On the other hand, to deny that Black Codes as a systemic, often statewide mechanism to deny former slaves full civil rights was a product of Southern Democratic Party reaction to losing the Civil War, is a Southron attempt at revisionist history that has no place here.
I think someone has been reading dilorenzo (he attempts to equate the NY state constitution revision with Jim Crowe).
YOU, sir, are the biggest jerkwad ever.
First, let’s get one thing straight. I do have an education and I plenty well know how to do research. I have a Master’s Degree that I worked my butt off for, so you should just back off your little high horse.
I SIMPLY said TWO WORDS to you. 2.
I asked you to expound on a statement that you made. Why? Because I homeschool my junior high kiddo who HAPPENS to be have just finished a unit that discussed the JC Laws AND he was standing, looking over my shoulder and reading your statement when I typed the response. He was finishing a break and came back to take an Algebra test and waiting for me to get off the computer, because we only have one. He was curious to your statement and asked me about it. I told him that I heard that before but I had no specifics to offer him. I didn’t have time to do the research at the moment because he needed to take a test. I typed a quick response to you, which was “Please expound”. It was simple. Just a little more info on exactly what you referring to so I could explain to him. I have no problem “googling” anything. (and that’s if that’s your go to method for research, as you advised, then you need an education on all the other options available. Google is not an end all, be all.) I have found that MOST Freepers are decent people and will be more than glad to provide any link/source they may have readily available. I have also found that Freepers’ sources are generally WAY more reliable than google. I didn’t ask you to do ANYTHING having to do with research, because, dummy me, I assumed that you had ALREADY done the research or else you wouldn’t be spouting off your superior knowledge. So if you had to do research to expound on that statement, then that says a whole lot more about you than it does me, for simply asking. And after my response to you I went to straight to my cell and did a little research (the best I could with my limited data connection on my phone) and if you scroll up, you’ll see where I actually answered a question that someone asked you about a source.... because, SHOCKER, I DID look it up while waiting on your response.
You made a statement earlier on the thread about the sorry state of the communist public schools not doing their job and teaching history correctly, but it seems to me you are just a bitter old crabby man snapping at everyone who dares cross your path. You are pi$$ed about the schools not teaching and what have you done about it ??? NOT ONE FREAKING THING. Well, except attack a mother who actually has sacrificed A LOT to keep her child from being educated in the public school system. You had the chance to be a part of the solution to the uneducated society/younger generation and you chose instead, to gripe and moan that your wisdom was sought out. How the he11 do you expect the younger kids to get an education if the people who are supposed to be ADULTS don’t do all they can to help.
I am not perfect and unlike you, I don’t know every thing. And even though one of my degrees is actually in HISTORY, I still don’t know everything even about history. But, one key to research and learning and gaining more knowledge is to ASK QUESTIONS.
So, you just go along your little merry way griping CONSTANTLY about the public school system and all the uneducated kids and how the country is in the crapper b/c of it and the rest of us will actually get off our LAZY rear ends and DO SOMETHING about it. The irony of calling someone lazy who is actually DOING something about the very problem that you, the almighty Keyboard Warrior, is whining about is laughable.
And just for the record, I DID go to public school. Why would you attack me for that?? I had no choice in the matter, sir. But, at least it was a dang good one. But to mock me for that makes you look like a petty little man. And if you went to public school, it makes you a hypocrite. And if you didn’t, it makes you a pissy little snotty brat who thinks he’s better than others who’s parents couldn’t afford a private education. Regardless, I didn’t just get passed along in school, because my parents were way better people than to let that happen and I did my best in school and graduated 11th in my class with high honors and several academic scholarships, to *gasp* PRIVATE colleges.
I know you only snapped at me because that’s how you treat everyone, so I really take no offense. But, maybe you should try thinking really hard next time before you decide to call someone names, attack their character and basically call them idiot, before knowing their intentions or anything about them.
I think you posted to the wrong person.
I never once denied squat about the Black Codes. There are no “Southrons” here trying to revise anything. Just calm down.
The press has latched onto this one thing as the reason why Paula is hitting the bricks. How quickly people forget her diabetes debacle. This is Paula’s 3rd (at least) horrid PR gaffe in the last couple of years, how much of this crap is the network supposed to take?
“I am not perfect and unlike you, I dont know every thing.”
Obviously you are not perfect.
You don’t know how to learn and that does make you an idiot. In this day with access to the Internet you want others to do you homework for you? Really? Are you really that stupid and lazy? Do you not have a single bone in your body capable of learning for yourself??
Anytime someone mentions something of interest I don’t tell them to do my homework for me. I go and research things for myself. Americans have become so fat and lazy we can’t seem to learn when everything we want to know is right in front of us.
She would’ve been dumped for her diabetes thing but she had a couple of years left on her contract. Paula has several horrid PR gaffes under her belt and I’m betting the decision for not renewing her contract is for a lot of things.
But, I will correct something:
“On the other hand, to deny that Black Codes as a systemic, often statewide mechanism to deny former slaves full civil rights was a product of Southern Democratic Party reaction to losing the Civil War, is a Southron attempt at revisionist history that has no place here.”
The Black Codes were well in place before the Civil War...and not only in the southern states. I wish people would quit acting like the South was the only place there were ever slaves, the only place where blacks were ever discriminated against, and the only place where there has ever been racial issues/problems.
STILL BEING A JERK eh?
A jerk who can’t read!
Go back, read where I confirmed I did research on the matter, then take you a good dose of fiber.
If you were in a group a of people and you made a statement intending on correcting a common error, and someone in the group was interested in what you had to say and said “expound please”, would you freak out on them and call them lazy and tell them to go google it? I would hope not, but you probably would. Point is, it’s no different here. Just a group of folks chatting.
So, you’ve never asked another person a single question in the quest to learn more about a subject? Explains your ignorance for sure.
I was replying to your post 227, very calmly.
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