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Medics: Gays should be allowed to give blood
TheLocal.de ^ | 24 Jun 13 12:46 CET | (The Local/jcw)

Posted on 06/24/2013 5:58:51 AM PDT by Olog-hai

German doctors are calling for gay men to be allowed to donate blood. Currently a Europe-wide ban prevents them from doing so, but the German Health Minister said he would welcome a relaxation of the rules.

The German Medical Association (BÄK) said that it would do everything “within its means” to remove the blanket ban on men who have sex with men, those with lots of sexual partners and prostitutes, from donating blood. …

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: aids; blooddonation; blooddonors; germany; homosexualagenda; pathogens; publichealth; riskybehavior; suicide

1 posted on 06/24/2013 5:58:52 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Gross


2 posted on 06/24/2013 6:01:30 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Olog-hai

Pray you never need blood. Prostitutes too? Good going, Germany. Not.


3 posted on 06/24/2013 6:01:32 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Olog-hai

What could go wrong? /sarc


4 posted on 06/24/2013 6:02:05 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Olog-hai

sick, not only do they like to have sex with fecal matter and then get much more diseases but they now are to give blood.

Yea nothing wrong there , just like them infiltrating kids groups and we’re now seeing kids being molested by these people


5 posted on 06/24/2013 6:03:31 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Olog-hai

Fogedaboudit!


6 posted on 06/24/2013 6:03:37 AM PDT by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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To: RightGeek

How would you ever know where the blood originated from as you were receiving the blood or plasma.


7 posted on 06/24/2013 6:03:59 AM PDT by shadeaud (Stay Thirsty My Friends)
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To: Olog-hai
When I had my hip replaced a few years ago (at a major,well known hospital) the surgeon strongly encouraged me donate my own blood beforehand that would be stored and be given back to me if blood loss during surgery necessitated it (which,I was told,turned out to be the case).He didn't need to tell me *why* he was recommending it.I was at the hospital's blood bank at the precise times set...with bells on (IIRC I had to go several times).
8 posted on 06/24/2013 6:09:26 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: Olog-hai
to remove the blanket ban on men who have sex with men, those with lots of sexual partners and prostitutes, from donating blood.

I thought this was semi-satire news. We're living in bizzaro world.

9 posted on 06/24/2013 6:09:46 AM PDT by Spirochete (Does the FedGov have the attributes of a legitimate government?)
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To: Olog-hai
A nurse with whom I worked for 20 years in a large hospital's ER contracted HIV *and* Hep C from a needle stick...a few years after I had left the department.Anyone familiar with the workings of ERs,ORs,ICUs and other fast paced hospital departments knows that needle sticks are an all-too-common occurrence and are a huge risk to health care folks...and have been even since before the appearance of AIDS.
10 posted on 06/24/2013 6:14:03 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: Olog-hai

How about active intravenous drug users? Hepatitis patients? Hell.. just allow everybody!


11 posted on 06/24/2013 6:18:35 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: Olog-hai
Currently a Europe-wide ban prevents them from doing so...

I donated blood recently for the first time in quite a while (lazy I guess).There were many questions..."are you in good health?"..."have you ever had hepatitis?"..."have you ever had sex with a man?"...."did you ever travel to Europe between the years XXXX and YYYY?" (can't recall what years were stated).I passed...and at the end I asked "why the question about Europe?" "Mad Cow Disease" was the answer.

So it looks like Europe isn't even afraid of Mad Pervert Disease today.

12 posted on 06/24/2013 6:22:25 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: Olog-hai

Are the members of the German Medical Association so insulated from the actual practice of medicine that they know they, themselves, would not be exposed to diseased-infected blood ... or are they so ideology-addled that they think the principle of “supporting” sodomites is worth dying for?


13 posted on 06/24/2013 6:35:33 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("The world understands that Putin means it and Obama doesn't." ~Mark Steyn)
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To: Olog-hai

Hmmm, let’s review my present understanding....

I spent a few years in the UK doing grad studies...during the great mad liberal...er...mad Pelosi...er...mad cow times.

Consequently, I cannot donate blood.

A gay person can butt boink, pack fudge, press baby ruths, attack muffins, and perhaps play brokeback mountain with a boy scout and he can give blood?

Sooner or later, we’re going to have to “just say no” and back that up with a bit of heat.


14 posted on 06/24/2013 6:36:40 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Olog-hai

Donate contaminated blood. Help save lives! ? (I miss common sense in my news and world.)


15 posted on 06/24/2013 6:37:27 AM PDT by convocation
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To: Olog-hai

The soluton can be quite simple—if the gay passes HIV in the blood, he will be executed as if it were a murder. This could apply for all donors who pass this disease. Too bad.


16 posted on 06/24/2013 6:39:05 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Olog-hai

Insane


17 posted on 06/24/2013 6:47:54 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Olog-hai

Just stop for a moment and try to think. No virus, no retrovirus, has the ability to detect gender-only hosts. If that doesn’t put you on the right track to the AIDs scam, then there isn’t much hope for you. As far as blood from homosexuals, no thanks. Hepatitis B is rampant among homosexuals who are IV drug users. And that’s just for starters. No thanks.


18 posted on 06/24/2013 6:57:27 AM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: Viennacon

My view is ask the relatives. Someone close, literally and figuratively, probably has the right blood and it will be fresh. I’d rather have that than risk maggot sex-fiend blood.


19 posted on 06/24/2013 7:01:31 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Olog-hai

They can give it to each other all they want; don’t give it to me.


20 posted on 06/24/2013 7:07:19 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'd rather be a living "gun culture" member than a dead anti-gun candy-ass.)
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To: Olog-hai

These decisions are not based on science anymore; they are actually antithetical to real science.

The medical associations, psych associations, and health agencies are owned by homosexuals now. Don’t ever expect any sanity to come from them.


21 posted on 06/24/2013 7:17:03 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Olog-hai
Since when is donating blood a Right?
Saving other peoples lives is an act of charity and responsibility.
If you suspect you may have ANY communicable ailment, you should not donate. That would be the responsible thing to do.
If you deliberately put others at risk you are neither charitable or responsible.

I too used to donate blood regularly but had to stop because of the Mad Cow scare.
I bet the risk of mad cow is minuscule compared to the AIDS threat.

22 posted on 06/24/2013 7:25:09 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Olog-hai

In all fairness, blood is filthy stuff. While everyone’s blood contains contaminants, “allogeneic blood”, blood from other people, is far more dangerous than “autologous blood” that a person donates with intention that it be put back in them during surgery.

A lot of problems are overcome by using tricks to get around the need for allogeneic blood. For example, stimulants that increase red blood cell production, other fluids to keep up the total fluid level preventing shock, such as blood substitutes. A lot of research is going into chemicals that carry oxygen and external processes that can oxygenate the blood and return it to the body.

And there is also surgical “blood salvage”, where blood lost during surgery is filtered and returned to the body; as well as surgical techniques that strongly limit blood loss.

In any event, no longer using allogeneic blood has radically reduced the transmission of viral diseases, which means the biggest threat is bacterial contamination while taking the blood out or putting it back in.

Surgery and blood transfer are so prone to bacterial infection that typically antibiotics have to be used to prevent infection. But these can also destroy “good” bacteria, creating the chance for bad, opportunistic infections from antibiotic-resistant bacteria.

All told, there is so much going on here that eventually it is hoped that there will be little if any need for allogeneic blood transfusions, except for very rare blood *components*. Which is probably a very good thing.


23 posted on 06/24/2013 7:31:43 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Olog-hai

oh....and no testing.....that would be profiling and bigoted.....


24 posted on 06/24/2013 7:32:12 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: Olog-hai
Allow homosexuals to give their blood into their own coffins, where it belongs!
Hepatitis Type "C" outbreak started by allowing homosexuals to give blood platelets, thus polluting the blood supply.

Homosexuals bring destruction on us all.
Those who support homosexuals are against our Heavenly Father and His Son Jesus Christ.
These anti Christ people only bring destruction on us ALL.
I have NO sympathy for homosexuals!

Homosexuality is a "Mark" of disobedience.
Someone once asked The answer is in the definition of "REPROBATE". And the reason"why" is given in the Bible.

God has a cure for homosexuals.
25 posted on 06/24/2013 7:32:49 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Olog-hai

If you need surgery, donate your own blood ahead of time.

Can you request “straight” blood or is that homophobic?


26 posted on 06/24/2013 7:35:19 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Olog-hai

I would love to visit Germany but with their blood bank rules, I will pass on a visit !


27 posted on 06/24/2013 7:49:28 AM PDT by CORedneck
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To: Olog-hai

This is politically correct medical insanity.

The time from infection with HIV to antibody detection is 4 to 6 weeks and in rare cases months. Thus if an infected individual gives blood in this 4 to 6 week period his blood can have the HIV virus in it but not enough antibodies to be detected. The odds of getting HIV from a gay mans blood and or IV drug user is 3.7 times greater than from non gay even though the blood has been screened. There is absolutely no reason that a patients risk must be 3.7 times greater when receiving blood. This is madness!!!!

See link below:

http://aids.gov/hiv-aids-basics/hiv-aids-101/statistics/


28 posted on 06/24/2013 7:53:22 AM PDT by cpdiii
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Each homosexual or lesbian should give at least a gallon of blood.


29 posted on 06/24/2013 7:56:12 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Olog-hai
German doctors are calling for gay men to be allowed to donate blood. Currently a Europe-wide ban prevents them from doing so, but the German Health Minister said he would welcome a relaxation of the rules.

Great idea, but only to each other! Let pestilence do what the government won't.

God Almighty Himself says: " If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

So let them give blood to one another.

30 posted on 06/24/2013 8:00:36 AM PDT by SilverMine (ever member of congress should be horse whipped)
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To: shadeaud

This would make ‘designated’ donation far more popular. I.e., you can give your own blood pre-surgery for your surgery or your spouse/kids/family/friends could donate specifically for you. But what about an emergency? The whole thing is too creepy and one has to wonder about the medical association that is promoting this.


31 posted on 06/24/2013 8:03:25 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: shadeaud
How would you ever know where the blood originated from as you were receiving the blood or plasma?

Of course you don't and you would not care from whom the blood came if it were untainted and you needed it to save your life. The problem with homosexual males giving blood is that there is a small window between the initial infection with the HIV virus and a positive screening test. During that time, blood which tested negative could transmit the infection. Despite what politically correct liberals say, those most likely to be infected with the virus have had sexual contact with one of two groups - bisexual and/or homosexual males or IV drug users. These two groups are (or have been) engaging in high risk behavior and should be rightly banned from donating blood.

32 posted on 06/24/2013 8:03:52 AM PDT by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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To: Olog-hai
This is ridiculous. We know that fags are far more likely to be infected with AIDS (and many other diseases) than the rest of the population. Given that there is a long incubation period when the current screening methods won't show positive for HIV infection, they are just asking for trouble, just to be politically correct.

Zeugma is working on his 5th gallon of donated blood. I'm willing to do my part. We don't need the extra risk.

33 posted on 06/24/2013 8:58:29 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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You can’t even give blood if you visited Europe in the 80s because of the .00000000000001% chance of mad cow disease.

I pointed out that I keep kosher and would never have come close to eating infected meat, but that doesn’t matter.


34 posted on 06/24/2013 9:00:11 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Olog-hai
Stupidity. I personally know one HIV+ patient whose treatment has taken the virus titer down to "undetectable". He is still infected, however, and if he screws up his treatment regimen, the thing will come back. "Undetectable" does not mean "virus-free".

It used to be that if you had even traveled to Africa over the past couple of years, you couldn't donate, and everybody understood perfectly well that it wasn't a case of political discrimination against Africa travelers or a denial of their "rights". Politics is going to kill people here. Again.

35 posted on 06/24/2013 9:08:05 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Olog-hai
The German Medical Association (BÄK) said that it would do everything “within its means” to remove the blanket ban on men who have sex with men

Keep the blankets ON. please ...

36 posted on 06/24/2013 9:42:21 AM PDT by mikrofon (Ich bin ein Bloodbanner)
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To: Olog-hai
I sure as He!! don't want their blood...that is crazy...errrr I miss the 50’, 60’s and 70’s...the past five years of obama have been the worst in the History of our Nation...
37 posted on 06/24/2013 1:15:35 PM PDT by haircutter (,,,)
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