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Why Europe Has a Problem with Israel
Prager University ^ | 6/24/13 | Daniel Gordis

Posted on 06/24/2013 8:28:14 PM PDT by ReformationFan

Why do so many in Europe feel so much hostility to the most open and liberal democracy in the Middle East? Daniel Gordis, President of the Shalem Center, zeroes in on the source of the problem in this fascinating look at the complex relationship between Europe, Israel and the Arab World.


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: danielgordis; europe; gordis; israel; nationstate; prageruniversity
http://www.prageruniversity.com/Political-Science/Why-Europe-Has-a-Problem-with-Israel.html
1 posted on 06/24/2013 8:28:14 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

Because you can insult the Jews and Israel and they don’t blow up things or cut off the head of the insultor.


2 posted on 06/24/2013 8:54:20 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: ReformationFan

Simple, Europe needs oil and cannot afford to do,without it. Until recently, the only real place for them to get it was the ME.


3 posted on 06/24/2013 8:55:43 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: aquila48
Because you can insult the Jews and Israel and they don’t blow up things or cut off the head of the insultor.

Exactly! Look at Sweden,they are so bent over that they tolerate the gang rape of their children by Muslims. The rest of Europe is pathetically the same.

4 posted on 06/24/2013 9:05:04 PM PDT by D Rider
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To: Jonty30
Simple, Europe needs oil and cannot afford to do,without it.

That be it, in a nutshell.

Being as Western Europeans are willing to sell their children into Arab harems for favorable petroleum access, antisemitism comes easy as pie.

5 posted on 06/24/2013 9:08:50 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: D Rider
Look at Sweden,they are so bent over that they tolerate the gang rape of their children by Muslims.

No surprise. They did the same for the Nazis in the 1940's.

6 posted on 06/24/2013 9:23:15 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Navy Patriot

Not.

Norway is literally drowning in oil, and is still so infested with Jew-hatred and love for muslims that the Norwegian National Couple (once Ola&Kari) is now the same-sex couple Vidkun&Mohammed, or so it seems, and PC Norwegians take considerable pride in calling themselves “Blue-eyed Arabs”.

A consensus of “enlightened” parties seem now to be bringing the “Jew-clause” in Norwegian law back in force by trying to ban religious circumcision. They use, among others, this fellow:

http://www.foreskinman.com/

Matthew Hess


7 posted on 06/24/2013 10:47:38 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama equals Osama))
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To: Hardraade

Do you have a link whereby Norwegians call themselves blue eyed Arabs?


8 posted on 06/24/2013 10:50:08 PM PDT by wardaddy (the next Dark Ages are coming as Western Civilization crumbles with nary a whimper)
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To: Hardraade

I looked it up.

What is your purpose to smear Norwegians by implying they are called blue eyed Arabs because they love Muslims and pride being anti Semites?

When you know damn well the Petro world calls them blue eyed Arabs because they have a buttload of oil

This thread is typical little FR dig a group here do.....toss out something maybe or maybe not European anti semitism and troll for incorrect answers

Then claim the West and America and even the forum is overrun with Jew haters

All this self abuse and most Jews ....70% minimum....detest what most here stand for

They don’t appreciate the zeal here for ferreting out anti Semites real or imagined

Meanwhile our leaders.......which of course includes all the non appreciative ...and plenty of GOP traitors.....is selling our nation out as an entitlement whorehouse for the third world

A Rubicon if crossed will destroy our birthright

And you guys are worried about what Norway thinks about Israel?

Good lord.....what is the real issue for you guys


9 posted on 06/24/2013 11:04:41 PM PDT by wardaddy (the next Dark Ages are coming as Western Civilization crumbles with nary a whimper)
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To: wardaddy

Not as such. It has been a popular self-term since the first oil finds.


10 posted on 06/24/2013 11:07:51 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama equals Osama))
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To: wardaddy

WTF are you drinking?


11 posted on 06/24/2013 11:11:29 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama equals Osama))
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To: Hardraade

You implied Norwegians are called blue Arabs because they are anti Semites.

Which is wrong.

You seem to have a hard on for them.


12 posted on 06/24/2013 11:24:45 PM PDT by wardaddy (the next Dark Ages are coming as Western Civilization crumbles with nary a whimper)
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To: wardaddy

Oh. Lol.

You got your chain of thought a bit tangled.

It’s a self-designation, with pride, in the antisemite part of the population. That part is growing, as Norwegians, by and large, always marxist are turning to muslim alliances.

How do I know? I live here. And my doubledamnedtohell family is trying to murder - very literally - my Jewish fiance/partner who is in the US.


13 posted on 06/24/2013 11:42:18 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama equals Osama))
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To: Hardraade

So you have a Jewish girlfriend and see fiords teeming with Nazis

Funny I seem to recall them resisting Nazis at quite a cost and executing their collaborator in chief

Oh and BTW....I had Jewish girlfriends too

Didn’t give me any more special insight into prejudice than sleeping with mullatos or marrying a latina did

Same old southern boy....redneck to you fancy folks

Why didn’t you just say from jump street you’re a show dog?

Good luck with all that

Jewish girls have great hair and generally overample spinnaker sail


14 posted on 06/24/2013 11:53:11 PM PDT by wardaddy (the next Dark Ages are coming as Western Civilization crumbles with nary a whimper)
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To: wardaddy

You seem to be loaded down with images culled from bad comics. Yes, we sunk Blucher with a boatload of germans.

I even met one of the regiment who took the King, H7, up through the country and got him on a British ship in Tromsø.

http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2012/06/02/an-encounter-with-a-war-hero/

As for the murder attempt, which is ongoing:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3000163/posts


15 posted on 06/25/2013 12:06:22 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama equals Osama))
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To: ReformationFan

Very interesting site. I even enrolled in the darn thing :).


16 posted on 06/25/2013 12:10:54 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama equals Osama))
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To: Hardraade

Don’t drink or read comics
I raise kids and work or go on vacation like now winding down after another 14 hour drive

Spearfish to St Louis


17 posted on 06/25/2013 12:13:04 AM PDT by wardaddy (the next Dark Ages are coming as Western Civilization crumbles with nary a whimper)
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To: wardaddy

Well, it’s very easy to get stuck in the templates, as it were. The heroes of Telemark - which was also true. But most of the actual quislings went free, and back into political life.


18 posted on 06/25/2013 12:33:13 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama equals Osama))
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

The Nazi residue has almost died off, but the European population has become less and less European. Thanks ReformationFan.


19 posted on 06/25/2013 3:13:39 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Hardraade
Norway is literally drowning in oil,...

Sort of, and sort of not.

Norway's oil production has been in decline since 2000, down by one third now (Norwegian Sea Oil). However Norway has had a couple of possibly major discoveries recently, with a catch, they are claimed by Russia, the player that now gets their way in Western Europe.

Additionally, Norway oil is moving into decommissioning costs, bottom line, it is unlikely that Norway can save any of Western Europe other than maybe Norway. Norway has demonstrated the ability to get along with Russia when Russia is strong, and I suspect that she will do that again, resulting in Russia controlling the majority of Western European petro energy for decades to come.

I suspect that Europeans are soon to learn that Russians have long memories.

I take at face value the rest of your post.

20 posted on 06/25/2013 6:21:34 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Navy Patriot

They do indeed. I suspect that when Stalin was offered, by (FDR, was it?) a good chunk of Northern Norway as ice-free sea access but said no, thank you, it was partly because of Nansen’s work saving a lot of Russians. Instead of staying put, the Russian forces packed up their stuff and went home in good order.


21 posted on 06/25/2013 7:06:49 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama equals Osama))
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To: Hardraade

Norway bans Kosher butchering, doesn’t it?

From what I’ve read—in the very PC way of moden Europe, while Norwegians despise the Nazism of the past (and the very hard right (in Europe)) they also utterly despise the nation of Israel...

I think it’s a very fine line between hating Israel, and rank antisemitism, a line I think Norway by in large, has crossed.


22 posted on 06/25/2013 7:24:01 AM PDT by AnalogReigns (because the real world is not digital...)
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To: AnalogReigns

Oh, the line has been crossed all right. While the rest of Europe had various discrimination of Jews, which Hitler took advantage of, Norway banned Jews outright in its constitution until 1851. They weren’t alone, however - Jesuits and “monks” were also banned.


23 posted on 06/25/2013 8:06:57 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama equals Osama))
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