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The New Art of Fence Sitting - The Supreme Court's Ambiguity
Self | fwdude

Posted on 06/25/2013 9:07:54 AM PDT by fwdude

Am I the only one who has noticed an increasing penchant for the Supreme Court to return non-answers to critical issues?

The latest "Voter Rights" decision leaves the Federal Government in charge of determining when minority rights are violated, but now must be done procedurally, not discriminatorily toward us "raaaaaacist" states.

Honestly, how hard is it to actually rely on the Constitution and principles of clear thinking to come up with the fact that a state has decided to reserve marriage to only a man and a woman? Either they can or they can't. But who wants to bet that this Court will somehow equivocate and "split the baby" in an attempt to make both sides happy?


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KEYWORDS: 15thamendment; homosexualagenda; supremecourt; votingrightsact
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1 posted on 06/25/2013 9:07:54 AM PDT by fwdude
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Unpleasant decisions would lead to a severe Constitutional crisis. I think the court has decided to punt all the tough cases.


2 posted on 06/25/2013 9:11:05 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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In other words, cowards.


3 posted on 06/25/2013 9:14:21 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude
Checks-and-balances was a nice idea, in theory.
4 posted on 06/25/2013 9:14:53 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Religious faith in government is far crazier than religious faith in God.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I think the court has decided to punt all the tough cases.

Like denying standing to any eligibility case.

5 posted on 06/25/2013 9:16:13 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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There’s nothing wrong with the idea of a court being reluctant to legislate from the bench.


6 posted on 06/25/2013 9:19:02 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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There’s nothing wrong with the idea of a court being reluctant to legislate from the bench.

So, are you saying that Roberts was right about Obamacare?

7 posted on 06/25/2013 9:21:39 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: 1rudeboy
"Hey! That's a bad law! That's unconstitutional! Congress can't do that!"

You think the court is "legislating from the bench" when it says such a thing? The court is stepping outside it's proper bounds when it does this?

8 posted on 06/25/2013 9:22:41 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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There’s nothing wrong with the idea of a court being reluctant to legislate from the bench.
Exactly. Same goes for those who decry congressional "gridlock."
The fewer the laws these clowns pass, the better we'll be.
9 posted on 06/25/2013 9:23:59 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: fwdude

SCOTUS mirrors our society, which is split 50-50 between patriots and parasites. This situation cannot, of course, endure.


10 posted on 06/25/2013 9:25:10 AM PDT by pabianice
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States should defy any federal rulings that the SCOUTS punts back to lower courts....when it deals with state laws that protect the rights of states residents that the feds refuse to do so

Let the Feds try to enforce lower Fed court rulings


11 posted on 06/25/2013 9:27:35 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Don't Blame Me For La Raza Rubio....I Voted For Alex Snitker)
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So, are you saying that Roberts was right about Obamacare?

So, are you saying Roberts sat on the fence?

12 posted on 06/25/2013 9:28:11 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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There’s nothing wrong with the idea of a court being reluctant to legislate from the bench.

My point is that they ARE legislating from the bench - with half-measures. They go just enough into legislating for one side to try to "even out" the particulars between sides. Thoroughly unconstitutional.

13 posted on 06/25/2013 9:29:38 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation


14 posted on 06/25/2013 9:31:40 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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And my point is, you are bitching . . . and would only bitch louder when things don’t completely your way. (And I’m not saying that to be antagonistic).


15 posted on 06/25/2013 9:33:07 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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completely go
16 posted on 06/25/2013 9:33:40 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Perhaps "sitting on the fence" isn't le mot juste

"The Affordable Care Act is constitutional in part and unconstitutional in part The individual mandate cannot be upheld as an exercise of Congress's power under the Commerce Clause," Roberts wrote. "That Clause authorizes Congress to regulate interstate commerce, not to order individuals to engage it. In this case, however, it is reasonable to construe what Congress has done as increasing taxes on those who have a certain amount of income, but choose to go without health insurance. Such legislation is within Congress's power to tax."

So, it's sort of constitutional and sort of unconstitutional and let's have it both ways and have a spending bill originate in the Senate and we'll call it a tax, and we'll let the feds control a huge part of the economy because that's what the founders would want.

I call it having it both ways. And I think the court is cowardly to do so.

17 posted on 06/25/2013 9:33:53 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: 1rudeboy
So, are you saying Roberts sat on the fence?

I think Roberts is sitting on something other than a fence, but that's another issue.

The point is that he DID "legislate" in the Obamacare decision.

18 posted on 06/25/2013 9:34:26 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Sometimes “bitching” is well warranted.

Again, I contend that many of these decisions are clear cut, but that the court intentionally obscures the obvious to appear conciliatory to one side. We have seldom recently seen the court either completely repudiate or uphold a lawsuit of late. It seems to me that they used to.


19 posted on 06/25/2013 9:37:47 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Reads like a typical opinion to me. Your selection, that is. I didn’t read the opinion (my fault), and would have to read the dissents to form my own.


20 posted on 06/25/2013 9:39:08 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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