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Vanity: Thank John McCain for Same Sex Marriage
Vanity | June 26, 2013 | Me

Posted on 06/26/2013 9:52:35 AM PDT by C19fan

Just wanted to remind the Freepers, most of whom probably remember this, the when nationwide gay marriage happens we can thank John McCain. After the Massachusetts Supreme Court declared SSM as a constitutional right there was a strong push for a Federal Constitutional amendment to protect traditional marriage. John McCain decided to be his MSM butt kissing self. He said it was too early for an amendment and a normal Federal law was good enough. So Congress passed DOMA and Clinton signed it. Anybody with half a brain knew there was a strong possibility DOMA would be declared unconstitutional and Kennedy did not disappoint. Well it seems at this stage there is zero chance of an amendment and the best one can hope is each state will be allowed whether to keep the traditional definition of marriage. Given the use of Equal Protection in Kennedy's argument and his claim DOMA was passed for reason of "animus" against homosexuals I see more Supreme Cases decisions striking down state level amendments and laws.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Society
KEYWORDS: doma; marriage; mccain; vanity

1 posted on 06/26/2013 9:52:35 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

No, thanks.


2 posted on 06/26/2013 9:53:54 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Support Free Republic!)
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To: C19fan

The Federal government had to pass something to define marriage as it related to federal benefits. Otherwise, those married in MA could claim federal benefits.


3 posted on 06/26/2013 9:55:41 AM PDT by kabar
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The point is there was a push for an Constitutional amendment not subject to SCOTUS getting involved but McCain pushed for a mere law. Congress had the opportunity to define marriage in the Constitution but thanks to McCain it chickened out and passed DOMA.


4 posted on 06/26/2013 9:58:02 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan; All

This has to be the most stupid post of the year.. In all fairness I don’t think an actual Constitutional Amendment would have passed.. It would need 2/3 of both house and 3/4 of all states to pass it.


5 posted on 06/26/2013 10:10:12 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Only losers like to win by losing.)
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To: C19fan

If you asked the general population to vote for gay marriage it would lose- big time. It always has and always will.

So... how do you make legal something most people are against?

You pass a poorly formed law that makes it illegal.

So then when the supremes overturn it, you claim TA-DA! The law is now FOR IT.


6 posted on 06/26/2013 10:17:31 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: C19fan

Would McCain have nominated Kagan and Sotomayor to the bench?


7 posted on 06/26/2013 10:19:55 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Electorate data confirms Resolute Conservative voted for Soetoro)
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8 posted on 06/26/2013 10:21:03 AM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: C19fan

There is no such thing as “same sex marriage”. Marriage is a union between a man and a woman.


9 posted on 06/26/2013 10:27:23 AM PDT by South40
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To: C19fan

you’all need to do your homework.

DOMA passed in 1996.
MASS SCOTUS ruled on gay marriage in 2003

In 2006, the Federal Marriage Amendment, , which would prohibit states from recognizing same-sex marriages, was approved by the Senate Judiciary Committee on a party-line vote and was debated by the full United States Senate, but was ultimately defeated in both Houses of Congress.


10 posted on 06/26/2013 10:34:06 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (we're the Beatniks now)
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To: C19fan

I’m always happy to heap ridicule on that silly fool’s head, but McCain is nothing but a fart in this hurricane.


11 posted on 06/26/2013 10:34:45 AM PDT by pallis
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To: C19fan

Like every other person who has married, divorced and remarried under the abomination that is no-fault divorce, John McCain has contributed personally to the erosion and desecration of the sanctity of marriage.


12 posted on 06/26/2013 11:27:19 AM PDT by Burkean (.)
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13 posted on 06/26/2013 5:28:09 PM PDT by ansel12 (Libertarians, Gays = in all marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws.)
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Bill Clinton, from wapo:

“Washington, as a result, was swirling with all manner of possible responses, some quite draconian. As a bipartisan group of former senators stated in their March 1 amicus brief to the Supreme Court, many supporters of the bill known as DOMA believed that its passage “would defuse a movement to enact a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, which would have ended the debate for a generation or more.” It was under these circumstances that DOMA came to my desk, opposed by only 81 of the 535 members of Congress.”

Now his lips are moving, but whatever the reason or actual effect I would say that the possibility of a national amendment is now remote. There might be some truth to it, but of course the biggest factor are the number of voters who accepted ‘gay marriage’ at the time. Doma was 96 I think, the first state amendments were in 98, Hawaai and Alaska. The first gay marriage state was Mass. in 2004. An amendment had a chance in ‘96.

Freegards


14 posted on 06/26/2013 5:43:47 PM PDT by Ransomed
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