Skip to comments.Where does one go when one doesn't want to be an American anymore?
Posted on 06/26/2013 12:13:06 PM PDT by golux
Attack me if you will.
Yes, yes - check my profile - I am indeed presently living abroad for work but I have always been a flag-waving American.
At the moment some members of this august forum - which I have adored for many years, long before I was "golux" - believe Sarah can beat Hillary... Believe America will come to its senses on homosexual everything... Believe there will be some "push back," believe that for the first time in history (well, sine Appomatox) the Federal government will stop expending exponentially... Believe that Career Congresscritters will once again deign to "represent" their constituents... Believe that our Moslem president and his minions at the Church of Anthropogenic Global Warming can somehow use their out-of-control, unaccountable spy agencies to audit conservatives into regaining, for America, some miniscule thread of respect in this world... Believe that if we try - if we really try - hard enough to teach our kids how to F each other up the A in grade school and on Sesame Street, then Americans might have jobs and hope again.
But I'm just not seeing it. I really do believe that our country is sick. Mortally sick.
Yep, I've read Gibbon's The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. You should too. It'll take you many months, but it's worth doing. The similarities are uncanny. Shockingly so.
I guess I still love America and that for which she "stood." I have sacrificed much for my patriotism as so many of us have - and I have been blessed by our wonderful society. I love America. I LOVE America.
But the Founders' message is real. Ayn Rand's message is real. The LORD and His Commandments are real. I am not a Christian, but if America were a Church (in my case a synagogue,) I'd leave it.
If the RNC were a Church I would leave it.
I have a family. I am afraid for my children's brains, their sexuality, their knowledge of good and evil, their morality. I have lived in many places and can assure you ours is no longer the land of the free.
I am tired of arguing with European (Jews, mainly) about how America isn't crime-ridden, filled with bums and fags and pedophiles and drug addicts and perverted teachers and communists and obese, immoral, undereducated welfare zombies.
America is. We are. After 9/11 we elected a freakin' guy named (probably) Barack Hussein Obama, about whom we know less than nothing. We did this. Is Satan in charge of America?
Tonight I told the Aesop fable about the dog and the wolf to my kids. I love to draw these stories out with details, sounds, et cetera.
For the first time I realized I was being a hypocrite comparing Americans to the wild, free wolf rather than the enslaved, fat, stupid dog, and it choked me up.
My hope is dead. Even a revolution seems impossible. We have traded all of our liberties for safety, and delight in the process, sucking on Soma and flocking to Wal Mart for more American flag decals stamped by Chinese preteens.
But what to do? Where to go?
I love Free Republic. Would there were one.
One possibility is Russia. You’d be looking at a known set of problems along with one of the trickier languages to learn, but Russia has fully reverted to its ancient roots as a Christian nation and it is the only major power Christian nation at present.
“Where does one go when one doesn’t want to be an American anymore?”
Keep fighting those windmills!
You didn’t leave America. America left you.
Oh, you want to be an American.
It’s just that what society and the country are becoming is NOT American.
I hear Belize is nice - good weather, they speak English.
I’d go with Poland or Slovakia.
I’ve heard some of the former Soviet Bloc countries are good, (Poland, Austria etc). They have a Christian revival since the fall of the Soviet Union, and have so far resisted Western liberalism, however as part of the European Union there is constant pressure for them to conform on issues like gay rights.
They’ve been advertising heavily on the radio here in the Atlanta area. Evidently they expect an influx.
Go to Texas!;-)
I wonder the same thing, where to go.
Australia or New Zealand.That sounds like a great start.
Despair and die.
Yeah, where we let out of state losers come in and affect which laws get passed.
Central or eastern Siberia. There is lots of uninhabited land there where one could just disappear (if you like cooler climates).
If I could find another country with the freedom to own firearms I presently enjoy, I would consider a move.
It took a thousand years for Rome to fall, but only 250 for America.
“As an ordained U.U. Reverend, I suggest not fireworks, but sackcloth and ashes for this Fourth of July!”
As to “where to go”, I will tell you that, as I sat in the barracks in Thailand, all those things that made ‘home’ special to me, were what I clung to, while out of country.
There is no ‘there’, that will ever replace what America was, before Barack Hussein Obama. What is in your heart, is what makes this place special, and no stinking Communist can change THAT!
Poland or Belize.
Actually I would love to go to the Tatra mountains, near Zakopane, or on the Slovak side.
Not another country, but Alaska might be a good place to wait it out.
Describing Siberia as having a cooler climate is a little optimistic.
NO! It's HORRIBLE here. There are NO jobs, No women, No water, No air, the people are rude and we ran out of food years ago.
....visit Polonius for lunch...
What about Putin, I thought he was a communist.
My wife and I are keeping that one as an option.
Where does one go when one doesnt want to be an American anymore?
That stunning answer is humorous, saddening, but frighteningly correct.
CW-II, I fear, is close. Sooner or later, lots of folks are going to “just say no”....followed by “make my day”.
Putin is far from a Communist...Nationalist, yes. Communists in Russia hate him, and vice versa.
All conservatives meet in Texas. Make the lives there so unfortified that they leave. They are mostly in Austin so move there.
I've been there (1991)..it's gorgeous. I'd like to have one of those small log homes on some acreage heading south out of Zakopane.
Well, what are you looking for?
2. Low taxes, small government?
3. Little corruption?
4. Low cost of living?
5. Hot women?
Eastern bloc, some countries of central/south America, Thailand, some of the “stans” of the ex USSR...
I’m going through “Harassment” training, and I’m glad I’m old, because I don’t want to live in this stupid country anymore.
I’ll retire as soon as I can and ignore this utter stupidity, until the guns are drawn.
It's certainly ironic that the heart of the "Godless" Soviet Union, has argueably replaced the West as the seat of Christian morality in the world. I actually forsee a time, perhaps fifty years out, after the country is firmly dominated by the Black/Hispanic coalition and whites are little more than a persecuted minority, that a reverse migration will occur with White Christian's fleeing en masse to Russia.
Poland also has a very low number of muslim filth.
Let me rephrase that: All conservatives move to Texas and make the libs that live there so uncomfortable that they leave and move out. They are mostly in Austin, so move there.
Yes, Russia has taken the words of Solzhenitsyn to heart since the Soviet Union crumbled.
Unfortunately, the West hasn’t.
I love that story except for the fact that with a finite numbers of years of being found all but one was dead.
A lot of good that did last night.
Poland is good, but the language is difficult and the climate sucks. I looked into Italy, but they have a global asset tax as of last year and heavily armed, aggressive “Guarda Finanza” (Tax SWAT teams.)
I have not lived in the USA for 20 years, moved out when Clinton won. Haven’t been back since except for visits.
I didn’t leave America, America left me (and us.)
You cannot live in an American city the size of mine and walk the streets at night unarmed like I and my children do.
It’s about to get worse. A lot worse.
One has to be optimistic nowadays or why bother staying around? Plus I like coats.
I thought I saw pictures of him in a church, blessing himself with holy water. I couldn’t believe what I was seeing.
Maybe I’m thinking of someone else.
You had me until you listed Jews as part of your problem ... are you really as hair brained as that ?
Most of those are Tartars who have been their for centuries, and pretty much keep to themselves.