Skip to comments.Where does one go when one doesn't want to be an American anymore?
Posted on 06/26/2013 12:13:06 PM PDT by golux
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Where does one go when one doesn’t want to be an American anymore?....Renegade. Think about it.
I pray that some of the states can secede and we all like minded people can move there. I’m so sick of all this and sick of our side never getting a break.
I told my husband I keep picturing a toilet being flushed, and our country in the middle of it.
Yah, if you dislike freedom, Russia should be at the top of anyone’s list . . . but hey, it’s an (allegedly) Christian nation.
It's those darn cases. Actually once you learn the basics, it's a fairly easy language to read...speaking it is a whole other matter.
Agree with you.
As US becomes more and more socialist and authoritarian, then it is just a matter of picking the best of like countries.
or the White House Staff.
Amen. Let me know if you find one.
“”Where does one go when one doesnt want to be an American anymore?”
I vote that answer to be the greatest response of the week. Maybe even month.
You sly red-dawg, you.
“Go To Texas.
NO! It’s HORRIBLE here. There are NO jobs, No women, No water, No air, the people are rude and we ran out of food years ago.”
But Texas, or New North Mexico, is going to be home to 11 million new immigrants. Then there really will be no jobs, no water, no air, and no food.
Stand your ground, FReepers! Raise the Gadsden Battle Flag!
It is us against the gullible supporters of Obamanation!
While Rubio and his Eight Senate Gangsters put out political smoke and mirrors to get a bill passed this year, nothing they have said will change the basic problem of aliens illegally invading the USA.
llegal aliens invade the USA for Welfare and Wages.
1.) End the Anchor Baby Law.
2.) End the Hospital Emergency Room No Payment Law (EMTALA).
3.) End ANY other Welfare to Aliens.
4.) Fine US employers $1,000 per day per employee who is an alien.
5.) Spend NO money on securing the border. It is a bottomless money pit.
6.) Spend money on Chainlink/ Concertina wire desert prisons for the EXISTING Federal Law for a mandatory 6 month imprisonment for repeat offenders who have invaded our Country more than once.
7.) Transfer Border Invasion Enforcement to the US National Guard in each State, and US Coast Guard.
8.) Repeal all State and Federal Laws that prohibit voter officials and Police from requesting proof of US Citizenship for any reason what so ever.
9.) Be as hostile to all illegal alien invaders as we should be to all Federal politicians and Federal Judges who vote for or support another Kennedy-style amnesty bill with no significant Federal enforcement.
Contact your local TEA Party, and plan to kick the sorry RINOs and even sorrier Democrats out of Congress in 2014!
Five years ago I might have attacked you, not today.
It seems like a natural place to be if you really hate America and don’t want to BE American!
Yep. And worst of all, we also ran out of beer.
I’m not going anywhere. I may be middle aged and crippled but I’m man enough to stand and fight for what I believe in.
I’m not trying to pimp my podcast, but I interviewed Fernando Aguirre (FerFAL) yesterday and he has some really good insights into relocation. Uruguay is the only South American country he would recommend. Others have moved to Costa Rica, and there is quite a large American contingent there. Ultimately, he believes America is the best choice and suggests moving to the state(s) that are most freedom minded.
Also, buy the book Strategic Relocation by Joel Skousen for some very good information and suggestions.
I do understand how the Pilgrims felt when they first moved to Holland and realized the culture there was corrupting their kids. I feel exactly the same way and would love to find my own Mayflower.
Link to my interview with Fernando: http://radio.thesurvivalmom.com/survival-mom-radio-hour-fernando-aguirre-ferfal/
What difference does it make? All of them will have their own set of problems, none will be “good enough.” Just roll the dice ... close your eyes and stick a pin in a map.
I vote for all liberals and whiney bitches to move to California.
I’ll stick it out here. When I retire it will be way up in northern New England. Already have a place built in a small, beautiful village.....but, I get what you are saying. I have a grandparent that was born in Ireland. So yup, I went & got my Irish passport, not so much for me unless things go crazy, but for my kids if they need to get out of here since they will also become Irish citizens through me.
How utterly dispiriting. [and true]
I speak and read it without any trouble.
Not everyone has the capacity for learning languages though... it is my sixth, so after the first four, they all come a lot easier.
Texas will be blue in 10 years and part of Mexico in 20
Yep, come on down to Austin where conservatives thrive. The more, the merrier....and pay no attention to those few libs around here. They'll be moving on to New Mexico shortly.
I live in Panama, and have visited Belize several times within the past year. English is the **official** language, but the real language is Kriol, an unusual admixture of French, assorted native tongues, and English. Easy to learn pidgin Kriol -- BRUTAL to speak it fluently (i.e. talk easily with most Belizeans).
Perhaps 20% (and that's a guess) of Belizeans speak English comprehendibly.
Secondly, Belize -- while trying like mad to attract expatriates to its shores -- shot itself in the foot very badly with the highly fraudulent "economic citizenship" programme that blew up in 2008. The story goes that there were more fraudulent "Belizean" passports in circulation than official ones. I've no dog in this fight, and thus no opinion...but I do have two friends who were burned by the abuse of this scheme to the tune of several thousands of dollars. Es lo que es, eh?
Belize appears to be going down the road of that old Star Trek episode, "The Cloud Dwellers". There is VERY distinctly an economic dichotomy in society. The poor (and that would be somewhere above 70% of the population) live not quite hand-to-mouth, but not far away. The wealthy are in two groups: the traditional oligarchy (every Latin nation has one) and the newly-minted expatriados class, living in sealed communities like Ambergris Cay and Orchid Bay. A **VERY** unhealthy long-term development.
Belize, despite the official pronouncements, spends almost exactly NOTHING on its own infrastructure, roads, sewers, pest control OTHER THAN what it can get (for which word, read: extort) from foreign developers. Belize City, particuarly, is -- unfortunately -- a dump with a fairly serious crime problem to boot.
I'm not posting this to piss on Belize; the nation is beautiful and the people are very friendly. Rather, I'm posting this to combat some of the rainbows-and-unicorns propaganda about Belize that one sees these days, both from the goobermint and from private sites such as International Living.
Simply inform yourself as fully as possible about Belize before even CONSIDERING a move there, or even an extended stay. That's all I ask, ok?
Yeah, I’m going down with the ship. There’s plenty of space in this country where I can lose myself if I have to . . . .
As you start narrowing down your choice, I think you’ll be unpleasantly surprised to learn that most countries don’t WANT us! Australia is one country that has an age limit. Sure, you can go to these countries for fairly short periods of time but then you have to leave, and I wouldn’t bet on their policies toward illegals as being as insane as ours.
Visit Simon Black’s website, www.sovereignman.com for a very good education into what options are out there.
I really wish I had learned it as a kid. I think my grandfather could speak it a little.
California. It’s no longer part of the United States.
Actually most of the Polish I pick up comes from listening to Polish music. I have an Internet station I listen to.
It is a blueprint for wholesale poverty and social discord... we won't even talk about the gratuitous class warfare that this ‘President’ has encouraged.
LOL. The leader in abortion rates in hardly a Christian nation. You have fallen for Putin’s lies.
A friend of mine checked out Belize, planning on moving there. While there he visited a church and met a number of its members. A young girl who attended the church with her dad was kidnapped and a few days later found dead. The local police barely seemed interested in investigating, and my friend decided Belize wasn’t for them.
Now, far more egregious crimes happen in America daily and there are plenty of corrupt LE departments and agencies, so who’s to say Belize LE is worse than ours?
At any rate, my friend gave up on the idea of Belize and now lives in Costa Rica.
One more thing. No matter where you live on this planet, the IRS has the legal right to claim its share of any money that you make. America is one of the few countries of the world that views its citizens as permanent property.
Russia is dead set against homo rights. Christianity is experiencing a monumental resurgence. Their borders are secure. They do not tolerate mudslime terrorists and call them what they are. They are pretty much energy independent and don’t follow the cult of gorebull warming. They mine minerals and use them to create wealth and opportunity.
Oh, but their government is tyrannical. Ours isn’t?
Life in the owebamanation has become completely upside down and backwards. All I see is dark times coming.
Maybe Ed Snowden has a good idea. I thinks its time to start learning the Russian language and get a visa.
Thanks for the lowdown - I saw some pretty expensive Belize real estate online, and some reasonably priced. We have considered other Central and South American countries as well, my Spanish is pretty good and we are retired. No Mexico, though.
I used to get irritated with the moderates who said Reagan wouldn’t recognize the conservatism of today.
Today I agree with them for the opposite reasons. Reagan was an optimist, a builder, and a fighter. Today’s “conservatives” seem to have nothing but despair, anger, and a desire to destroy. I doubt God will treat them any differently than the liberals.
I’m no expert by any means, but isn’t Australia actually worse with climate/censorship/gun rights/taxes?
If it were only a language thing, Canada or Australia would not present much of a problem. There are a few inconsistencies in the doctrine of self defense (i.e., no equivalent guarantee comparable to the Second Amendment), and there have been some more paralyzing applications of restrictions of speech, association, and to some extent, assembly. There is also the troubling fact that increasingly, their policy in regards to Islamic immigration borders on surrender to an invasion.
The concept of a nation of laws, united behind shared beliefs, and inspiring individual initiative, while recognizing achievement, seems to be fading in the consciousness of a growing number of the human population on this planet. It would not be difficult to envision a dystopia, or a plethora of dystopias, being the future of the world.
The American Experiment was great while it lasted. But extinction looms, and nothing much seems to be there to take up the flame.
My proposal (which seems to have little chance of being put into action) is for the portions of the territory once known as “the United States of America” that were designated as “red” districts on the most recent electoral maps, split off from the “blue” districts. The “red” district has the advantage of being almost contiguous across the territory, while the “blue” districts are badly fragmented. The “blue” districts would be allowed to set up whatever kind of cockamamie set of rules they want to live under, while the “red” district would return to application of the founding documents, the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution, with certain of the Amendments deleted (16th, 17th, 18th and 21st).
Then a very firm immigration policy to the “red” district would be set up, and citizenship would have to be reaffirmed upon reaching the age of majority, before being allowed to exercise the franchise of voting.
We could invade Mexico. haha
Nowhere. This is our story and we’re stuck with it.
I agree with you that we are mortally ill, but I don’t think there is another nation on this planet to which we can escape. I prefer to do what Bill Whittle suggests: retreat to the countryside, connect with like-minded people, lead a more simple life, and preserve a knowledge of what was great about America. We can create an entire subculture of conservatives.
The monks of the Middle Ages laboriously wrote to each other, preserving classical scholarship and discussing their faith. Others preserved or advanced art and literature. They kept the knowledge of civilization alive so that when mankind was ready once again to be reborn, the structure was there; no one had to re-invent the wheel of civilization.
We must do the same. Even if America falls into a new Dark Age, we must pass on our knowledge to those who come after us. There were universities and artists and writers and travelers during the Dark Ages, and life went on. We can do the same. Someday another Renaissance may come, unless the Lord returns before then. Let us be ready in either case.
Exactly, its ours and we’re the ones who have to fix it.
Im no expert by any means, but isnt Australia actually worse with climate/censorship/gun rights/taxes?
It may be worse with firearms controls,But I don’t think I’ve seen any leaders there trying to turn their country into a third world cesspool either.
Unlike Resident obama.
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