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Vicktory dog Lucas passes away
Life With Dogs ^ | June 25, 2013 | Admin

Posted on 06/29/2013 5:46:05 AM PDT by kanawa

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To: Silentgypsy
I hope we can go where the dogs, cats and horses go...

Once asked as to where he plans to spend his life after death (I don't remember the exact question), Will Rogers says he doesn't know where he's going but if he had his druthers he would like to go where the dogs go! Me too.

21 posted on 06/29/2013 10:20:31 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: kanawa; All
I recommend The Lost Dogs by Jim Gorant, Gotham Books, NY, 2010, to anyone here who wants to learn about the entire Vick case from the investigation and prosecution through the rehabilitation and final placement of the dogs. It's 279 page long, excluding acknowledgements and bibliography, very well written, and a terrific read.
22 posted on 06/29/2013 10:26:26 AM PDT by libstripper (A)
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On one hand, I’d like to read it because I feel strongly about what happened and know it’s an important book to read, but on the other I understand it’s a difficult read because of the graphic nature of the abuse detailed in the book. I haven’t been able to reconcile the two — yet. Maybe one day....


23 posted on 06/29/2013 10:36:53 AM PDT by JLLH
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To: green pastures

And what people tend to forget is that there was no death in God’s original creation — ergo, animals were always intended to be eternal just like humanity (and they were created before humans). What God intended will be fulfilled, despite man’s worst intentions.

It’s only been in the past 100 years or so that imbecilic arguments have arisen to question God’s love for all of his creation: animals don’t have souls therefore they can’t get to Heaven (Scripture implies otherwise when it uses the same term to refer to humanity and animals). They don’t need salvation and surely no thinking person would exclude beings not requiring salvation? Otherwise God and the angels both would need to be excluded from Heaven! Such arguments belong in File 13.


24 posted on 06/29/2013 10:41:45 AM PDT by JLLH
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To: JLLH
The abuse is graphically described, something that's necessary to show how purely evil Vick and his accomplices were. However, the rest of the book is truly inspiring in describing the great and courageous work some law enforcement people and prosecutors did and the wonderful rehabilitation of the dogs. Two of the law enforcement people involved in the case, Surry County Commonwealth Attorney Gerald Poindexter and Sheriff Harold Brown, both fellow Amish of Vick's, didi their best to sabotage the case. Indeed, Brown went so far as to fire the heroic investigator who made the case.
25 posted on 06/29/2013 11:05:07 AM PDT by libstripper (A)
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To: green pastures; Joe 6-pack

Absolutely! I believe my family will be waiting for me when I get to Heaven and I hope that my precious animals will be there too.

I am an artist, dog portraits mostly. I have a painting in my mind that I have not done yet. I plan on going back through all the photos of my many, many animals who have died and painting them all on the steps of a big house.

I am sure someone has done this already, it is hard to come up with something completely original but I have not seen a painting like that.


26 posted on 06/29/2013 11:16:16 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Joe 6-pack
I imagine it's a continuum for all creatures. A human and an earthworm are both created beings, intended from eternity, and formed with the supreme force of God's love. But the human has a greater soul and can come into a more developed and elevated communion with God than the earthworm can. As some humans are more devoted to the Lord on earth, so they will be closer to Him in the afterlife. And thus it must be with animals, with some more capable of joy and love and understanding than others.

CS Lewis remarked in a few different places that dogs and cats pick up a certain amount of humanity from associating with us, and the best of them pick up a lot from being in a good human family. In Screwtape he has the demons noting angrily that everyone who associates with a certain Christian household acquires the "stink" of holiness after awhile. It's not difficult to suppose that those humans who are faith-filled can somehow spread their reflected holiness to the animals they love. As the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the believing wife, per Paul (1 Cor 7) might not our animals be imbued with our love so that they can enjoy eternity with us?

27 posted on 06/29/2013 11:28:03 AM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare--now a Marine Mom)
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One of my favorite C.S. Lewis quotations (from _The Great Divorce_ and discovered on a FR thread) where he describes a woman in heaven surrounded by children, angels, birds and beasts:

‘What are all these animals? A cat - two cats - dozens of cats. And all those dogs ... why, I can’t count them. And the birds. And the horses.’

‘They are her beasts.’

‘Did she keep a sort of zoo? I mean, this is a bit too much.’

‘Every beast and bird that came near her had its place in her love. In her they became themselves. And now the abundance of life she has in Christ from the Father flows over into them.’


28 posted on 06/29/2013 12:16:38 PM PDT by green pastures (Cynicism-- it's not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: JLLH

Yes, thank you for adding that. I didn’t know the best way to convey that idea in this thread— the aspect of creation before the fall. Perhaps we tend to forget because, being fallen, the concept of a perfect creation is not able to be fully comprehended...


29 posted on 06/29/2013 12:25:43 PM PDT by green pastures (Cynicism-- it's not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: Ditter

That is a nice idea. Regardless of originality, it is a very special way to pay tribute to the special animals in your life.


30 posted on 06/29/2013 12:34:06 PM PDT by green pastures (Cynicism-- it's not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: Ditter
I just read Rev:9-11 and I am pretty sure the “Lamb” it refers to is Jesus but never mind, my dogs are going into the ground with me. The ashes of the ones who are gone are waiting in jars on the book shelf for that day. I hope and pray that they all end up in Heaven with me.

What you said my friend.



31 posted on 06/29/2013 1:42:59 PM PDT by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: kanawa

Lucas found love.

I thought of this Lucas while seeing your post: http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/13218/TN/US/

I have often wondered how Tennessee Lucas is living after his abuse. Tried but couldn’t find an update.


32 posted on 06/29/2013 10:49:14 PM PDT by Bronzy
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To: kanawa

I look at that poor dog’s scarred face and sad eyes and it is heartbreaking.

Thank the Lord he found love before he passed.


33 posted on 06/30/2013 7:35:50 PM PDT by berdie
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To: berdie

Those are not mean or angry eyes... Vick is a piece of human manure.


34 posted on 07/01/2013 11:17:26 AM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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