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Movie for a Sunday afternoon: "Sodom and Gomorrah" (1962)
You Tube ^ | 1962 | Robert Aldrich

Posted on 06/30/2013 11:33:26 AM PDT by ReformationFan



TOPICS: Religion; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: 1962; bible; celebrateperversity; celebratesin; gaypride; gomorrah; mfasa; pierangeli; robertaldrich; rossanapodest; sexpositiveagenda; sodom; sodomandgomorrah; stewartgranger
The disastrous Supreme Court decision from last week prompts the idea for today's feature. It's not the most accurate Biblical epic(for example, Lot instead of Abraham praying for the city to be spared, more people than Lot and his wife and two daughters leaving the city before its destruction, among others). Still, it's where our nation and Western culture is sadly heading. As with all films based upon the Bible, make sure to read the book as well.
1 posted on 06/30/2013 11:33:27 AM PDT by ReformationFan
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http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%2018:16-Genesis%2019&version=NKJV

Abraham Intercedes for Sodom

16 Then the men rose from there and looked toward Sodom, and Abraham went with them to send them on the way. 17 And the Lord said, “Shall I hide from Abraham what I am doing, 18 since Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him? 19 For I have known him, in order that he may command his children and his household after him, that they keep the way of the Lord, to do righteousness and justice, that the Lord may bring to Abraham what He has spoken to him.” 20 And the Lord said, “Because the outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grave, 21 I will go down now and see whether they have done altogether according to the outcry against it that has come to Me; and if not, I will know.”

22 Then the men turned away from there and went toward Sodom, but Abraham still stood before the Lord. 23 And Abraham came near and said, “Would You also destroy the righteous with the wicked? 24 Suppose there were fifty righteous within the city; would You also destroy the place and not spare it for the fifty righteous that were in it? 25 Far be it from You to do such a thing as this, to slay the righteous with the wicked, so that the righteous should be as the wicked; far be it from You! Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?”

26 So the Lord said, “If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes.”

27 Then Abraham answered and said, “Indeed now, I who am but dust and ashes have taken it upon myself to speak to the Lord: 28 Suppose there were five less than the fifty righteous; would You destroy all of the city for lack of five?”

So He said, “If I find there forty-five, I will not destroy it.”

29 And he spoke to Him yet again and said, “Suppose there should be forty found there?”

So He said, “I will not do it for the sake of forty.”

30 Then he said, “Let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak: Suppose thirty should be found there?”

So He said, “I will not do it if I find thirty there.”
31 And he said, “Indeed now, I have taken it upon myself to speak to the Lord: Suppose twenty should be found there?”

So He said, “I will not destroy it for the sake of twenty.”

32 Then he said, “Let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak but once more: Suppose ten should be found there?”

And He said, “I will not destroy it for the sake of ten.” 33 So the Lord went His way as soon as He had finished speaking with Abraham; and Abraham returned to his place.

Sodom’s Depravity

19 Now the two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them, and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground. 2 And he said, “Here now, my lords, please turn in to your servant’s house and spend the night, and wash your feet; then you may rise early and go on your way.”

And they said, “No, but we will spend the night in the open square.”

3 But he insisted strongly; so they turned in to him and entered his house. Then he made them a feast, and baked unleavened bread, and they ate.

4 Now before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both old and young, all the people from every quarter, surrounded the house. 5 And they called to Lot and said to him, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may know them carnally.”

6 So Lot went out to them through the doorway, shut the door behind him, 7 and said, “Please, my brethren, do not do so wickedly! 8 See now, I have two daughters who have not known a man; please, let me bring them out to you, and you may do to them as you wish; only do nothing to these men, since this is the reason they have come under the shadow of my roof.”

9 And they said, “Stand back!” Then they said, “This one came in to stay here, and he keeps acting as a judge; now we will deal worse with you than with them.” So they pressed hard against the man Lot, and came near to break down the door. 10 But the men reached out their hands and pulled Lot into the house with them, and shut the door. 11 And they struck the men who were at the doorway of the house with blindness, both small and great, so that they became weary trying to find the door.

Sodom and Gomorrah Destroyed

12 Then the men said to Lot, “Have you anyone else here? Son-in-law, your sons, your daughters, and whomever you have in the city—take them out of this place! 13 For we will destroy this place, because the outcry against them has grown great before the face of the Lord, and the Lord has sent us to destroy it.”

14 So Lot went out and spoke to his sons-in-law, who had married his daughters, and said, “Get up, get out of this place; for the Lord will destroy this city!” But to his sons-in-law he seemed to be joking.

15 When the morning dawned, the angels urged Lot to hurry, saying, “Arise, take your wife and your two daughters who are here, lest you be consumed in the punishment of the city.” 16 And while he lingered, the men took hold of his hand, his wife’s hand, and the hands of his two daughters, the Lord being merciful to him, and they brought him out and set him outside the city. 17 So it came to pass, when they had brought them outside, that he[a] said, “Escape for your life! Do not look behind you nor stay anywhere in the plain. Escape to the mountains, lest you be destroyed.”
18 Then Lot said to them, “Please, no, my lords! 19 Indeed now, your servant has found favor in your sight, and you have increased your mercy which you have shown me by saving my life; but I cannot escape to the mountains, lest some evil overtake me and I die. 20 See now, this city is near enough to flee to, and it is a little one; please let me escape there (is it not a little one?) and my soul shall live.”

21 And he said to him, “See, I have favored you concerning this thing also, in that I will not overthrow this city for which you have spoken. 22 Hurry, escape there. For I cannot do anything until you arrive there.”

Therefore the name of the city was called Zoar.

23 The sun had risen upon the earth when Lot entered Zoar. 24 Then the Lord rained brimstone and fire on Sodom and Gomorrah, from the Lord out of the heavens. 25 So He overthrew those cities, all the plain, all the inhabitants of the cities, and what grew on the ground.

26 But his wife looked back behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.

27 And Abraham went early in the morning to the place where he had stood before the Lord. 28 Then he looked toward Sodom and Gomorrah, and toward all the land of the plain; and he saw, and behold, the smoke of the land which went up like the smoke of a furnace. 29 And it came to pass, when God destroyed the cities of the plain, that God remembered Abraham, and sent Lot out of the midst of the overthrow, when He overthrew the cities in which Lot had dwelt.

The Descendants of Lot

30 Then Lot went up out of Zoar and dwelt in the mountains, and his two daughters were with him; for he was afraid to dwell in Zoar. And he and his two daughters dwelt in a cave. 31 Now the firstborn said to the younger, “Our father is old, and there is no man on the earth to come in to us as is the custom of all the earth. 32 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve the lineage of our father.” 33 So they made their father drink wine that night. And the firstborn went in and lay with her father, and he did not know when she lay down or when she arose.

34 It happened on the next day that the firstborn said to the younger, “Indeed I lay with my father last night; let us make him drink wine tonight also, and you go in and lie with him, that we may preserve the lineage of our father.” 35 Then they made their father drink wine that night also. And the younger arose and lay with him, and he did not know when she lay down or when she arose.

36 Thus both the daughters of Lot were with child by their father. 37 The firstborn bore a son and called his name Moab; he is the father of the Moabites to this day. 38 And the younger, she also bore a son and called his name Ben-Ammi; he is the father of the people of Ammon to this day.


2 posted on 06/30/2013 11:36:20 AM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

3 posted on 06/30/2013 11:38:49 AM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: ReformationFan
20 Those who call evil good and good evil are as good as dead, who turn darkness into light and light into darkness, who turn bitter into sweet and sweet into bitter.

21 Those who think they are wise are as good as dead, those who think they possess understanding.

22 Those who are champions at drinking wine are as good as dead, who display great courage when mixing strong drinks.

23 They pronounce the guilty innocent for a payoff, they ignore the just cause of the innocent.

24 Therefore, as flaming fire devours straw, and dry grass disintegrates in the flames, so their root will rot, and their flower will blow away like dust.

25 For they have rejected the law of the LORD who commands armies, they have spurned the commands of the Holy One of Israel.

(Isaiah 5, NET Bible) I prefer the word "woe" for "as good as dead," but the NET Bible is not copyright restricted.

4 posted on 06/30/2013 11:45:07 AM PDT by madison10
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To: ReformationFan

Does this movie accurately portray the role of homosexuality in the Sodom & Gomorrah account?


5 posted on 06/30/2013 11:48:42 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: ReformationFan

Just read one of the remaining msm “news”papers. Sure reads like S&G to me. MJ getting a pass for his disgusting covered up child abuse. Gay pride parades, scouts “accepting” gay leaders, two dads/two moms adopting kids to raise in who knows what life style being foisted upon us as the “new normal”. Um, no.


6 posted on 06/30/2013 11:50:58 AM PDT by rktman (Inergalactic background checks? King hussein you're first up.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Just checked out Amazon reviews. A lesbian queen (okay that’s sort of funny) is mentioned, but not the pushy gay crowd that wanted to have their way with the angels.


7 posted on 06/30/2013 11:57:27 AM PDT by madison10
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To: CatherineofAragon

I saw this movie a few years ago. Long on story telling short on Biblical reality. Still a good epic.

The homosexuality is lightly hinted at, but being an early “family film”, it will pass over most people’s heads.


8 posted on 06/30/2013 11:58:34 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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9 posted on 06/30/2013 12:02:09 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: ReformationFan

For those who live in cesspools like San Francisco, all they have to is go outside and look around AND it’s in HD.


10 posted on 06/30/2013 12:04:05 PM PDT by RetSignman (Immigration border protection is America's version of the Maginot Line)
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11 posted on 06/30/2013 12:06:25 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: ReformationFan

United States is the new Sodom and Gomorrah. What was Noah’s flood all about? To eliminate the earth of all sinful people. What was Sodom and Gomorrah about, to eliminate that city of sinful people. When God does the next one, a lot of people will be surprised and say, no one told me.


12 posted on 06/30/2013 12:07:15 PM PDT by YukonGreen
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

The Sodom and Gomorrah scenes from “The Bible” were a lot more disturbing. Particularly creepy was casting Peter O’Toole as the Angel noncom...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9ImBl7CtoBM/T5q44KUuHVI/AAAAAAAAF5w/xfXa_QBHB7E/s1600/TBItB2.jpg


13 posted on 06/30/2013 12:12:14 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: CatherineofAragon

It was 1962 and there were a lot more cultural and movie restrictions concerning the direct depiction of homosexuality onscreen. However, the queen of Sodom is definitely portrayed as a lesbian woman with her “favorite” girl from the harem in a way that was surprisingly overt for the time period. There’s also a scene where the prince of Sodom refers to a male character as beautiful when he walks in on him with one of Lot’s daughter. That’s about as far as it goes or what the societal restrictions of the time would’ve permitted in a mainstream film. Times certainly have changed(for the worse).


14 posted on 06/30/2013 12:21:00 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: BenLurkin

I actually thought the Sodom and Gomorrah scenes from that film were very effective and pretty Biblically accurate. Sadly, I haven’t found that film in full on youtube yet. If someone ever uploads it, I plan on using it for a future MFASA.


15 posted on 06/30/2013 12:23:33 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

‘The homosexuality is lightly hinted at, but being an early “family film”, it will pass over most people’s heads.’

Yep, the censors and cultural restraints of the time period it was made in would not have allowed it to be move overt and graphic.


16 posted on 06/30/2013 12:25:00 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: RetSignman

Yes. So sad since the city itself is so beautiful.


17 posted on 06/30/2013 12:26:28 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
I saw this movie a few years ago. Long on story telling short on Biblical reality. Still a good epic.

That sounds typical of a movie from the sword-and-sandal era that preceded the spaghetti westerns.

18 posted on 06/30/2013 12:26:50 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: ReformationFan

Quite so...which is probably why I found them disturbing.


19 posted on 06/30/2013 12:30:56 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: BenLurkin

Indeed. There’s even bestiality implied. And that freaky character with the open eye tattoos on her(or his?) eyelids. Pretty shocking for a 1966 film although onscreen standards were already liberalizing quite a bit by then.


20 posted on 06/30/2013 12:34:30 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar; ReformationFan

Insane, isn’t it? Back then they softpedaled the homo aspect to avoid offending families; now they don’t want to anger the homos themselves.

Thanks for the responses. It sounds like a movie worth seeing.


21 posted on 06/30/2013 12:41:13 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: madison10

Lesbian queen?

Hmmm...a shape changer? LOL


22 posted on 06/30/2013 12:41:53 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: ReformationFan

After the movie watch this link! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPBgpWy43vk It gives an accurate picture of where Sodom & Gomorrah are located.


23 posted on 06/30/2013 12:47:48 PM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals crazy!)
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To: missnry

Thanks for posting.


24 posted on 06/30/2013 2:26:32 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: BenLurkin

I saw THE BIBLE at the theater years ago, and YES, the Sodom and Gomorrah scenes are more disturbing. Hard to believe what just four years can do to movies. 1962 to 1966.


25 posted on 06/30/2013 2:35:23 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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