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Shingles. Not the kind on your roof.
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Posted on 07/01/2013 5:54:42 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck

Shingles. Hah. Funny name.

Nothing funny about suffering from an attack of this condition.


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I woke up two weeks ago with a sore rib cage. I thought it was from being an old codger and crawling around under my truck for several days, making some mods. Day after that I had this rash on my back/side, right where Mr. Springfield rides most of the time.

I went to see the doctor lady and she said "you have a case of Shingles. I can give you medication that will clear it right up." Yeah, about that.

The rash is pretty much healed up but the pain is still there and impressive. Seems like I had "prodromal pain" which means I had the pain before the rash. And I'm 50+, and I'm a white boy, so apparently I have a 15% chance of having this "neuralgia" for the rest of my life. That don't sound good. It hurts real good, though.

Guess back when I was a tadpole I had the chicken pox, I sorta seem to remember something about that. Not sure what woke it up but I'm sure hoping this is a one-time deal.

Can't sleep unless I eat hydrocodone and can't work if I do. Helluva mess. My neighbor says it basically killed his 67yo dad. The man went from playing golf every day to being dead in less than 3 years. Sounds like the pain and the meds were more than his body could take and he just gave up and went to meet Jesus.

That is a trip I'd rather put off for a while. The Lord and I ain't exactly on a first name basis, not since I went over to the dark side and married this Buddhist chick ;)

1 posted on 07/01/2013 5:54:42 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck
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To: West Texas Chuck

It is weird, until this year.......never saw anyone talk about it.
So far, all I know is that the doc says all old people get it and it is painful
Good luck


2 posted on 07/01/2013 5:58:17 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: West Texas Chuck
There is a shingles vaccine widely available, even at drug stores. Anyone over about 50 who doesn't get vaccinated will have only himself to blame if he suffers the misfortune of WTChuck here.
3 posted on 07/01/2013 5:59:28 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: West Texas Chuck

Try the amino L-lysine. It works great for several people in my family.

You can get it at any vitamin store. Take 3 to 6 grams per day.


4 posted on 07/01/2013 5:59:42 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: West Texas Chuck
I had a shingles on my right side in about 2007. The pain and weakness in my right arm lasted for about a year and a half. It sucks. Prayers up for you.

Steroids make me crazy angry, so I had to take a week off of work.

/johnny

5 posted on 07/01/2013 6:00:53 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: West Texas Chuck

My dasd had shingles in his 80s. He was in the big one and was know for a high tolerance for pain. he shingles were very tough on him.

When I was 15 I had small pox and my mom told the dr that I had had them when I was a kid.

The dr called our retired family doctor who not only remembered me but when I had small pox.

Can’t explain it.

A few years ago my doc asked me if I wanted a shingles shot. I didn’t know there was such a thing. I jumped at it and it’s supposed to last the rest of my life.


6 posted on 07/01/2013 6:01:15 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: hinckley buzzard

Doctor Lady mentioned that, but I already have it so not sure a $300 shot will do me any good.

More research necessary.


7 posted on 07/01/2013 6:01:54 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. That should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency.)
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To: West Texas Chuck

My first episode was just after the 2008 election.

I got over them in a week or so.
The election lingers though.


8 posted on 07/01/2013 6:02:01 PM PDT by tsomer
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To: West Texas Chuck

My 94 year old grandmother used to have shingles all over her body for years and years - at least ten. Then she went into the hospital for something else, they gave her anti-biotics for the other thing (don’t know what that was) but as a side effect, the anti-biotics cured her shingles.
Gone, all of it. I think she was 84 at the time.


9 posted on 07/01/2013 6:02:34 PM PDT by GreatRoad (O < 0)
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To: West Texas Chuck

Had it about 40 years ago when I was in my twenties. Hurt like hell. Nothing funny about it. Luckily the Doc indicated I probably wouldn’t get it again.


10 posted on 07/01/2013 6:03:00 PM PDT by Starstruck (Thank a gun owner for your freedom.)
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To: West Texas Chuck

Try aloe.


11 posted on 07/01/2013 6:03:27 PM PDT by BIV (typical white person)
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To: West Texas Chuck

..Herpes Zoster killed my father.


12 posted on 07/01/2013 6:04:58 PM PDT by Banjoguy (The Mayor of San Antonio is the smoothest liar I have ever seen.)
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To: West Texas Chuck

My brother contracted it about 6 years ago.

Earlier this spring, I decided to get the shingles vaccination. I also got the pneumonia vaccination.


13 posted on 07/01/2013 6:05:31 PM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: West Texas Chuck

Shingles is not to be taken lightly. I live in a very active “over 55” community, and several cases of shingles have turned people into recluses for months at a time.

There is a vaccine available, and It seems to be very effective at preventing shingles, or greatly reducing its effects.

Both my wife and I have the vaccine, with no ill effects. Check with your doctor!


14 posted on 07/01/2013 6:06:54 PM PDT by khenrich (These days, people pine for Jimmy Carter........)
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To: West Texas Chuck
I worked for years in a large hospital's ER.We used to get in a little old lady from Ireland,always accompanied by her son,who'd complain of pain from shingles.When I laughed when telling the nurse about the patient she explained to me that the disease,and the pain,were very real.Although I'm not sure (not at *all* sure,actually) my gut tells me that a visit to an Infectious Disease specialist...one connected with a major hospital...just might do some good.

If you are,in fact,in "west Texas" a visit to Dallas (or Houston) might even be in order...even though it's not right around the corner.

15 posted on 07/01/2013 6:10:06 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: Banjoguy

Wow, another one.

I had no idea, I heard of this before but it was not even on my radar.

I’m trying to decide if I can still ride my bicycles. So hot lately I have no stomach for going into the sweat zone, but I ain’t dead yet. I might be getting better.


16 posted on 07/01/2013 6:10:57 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. That should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency.)
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To: West Texas Chuck

So cliche.....I got shingles ON my 50th birthday. Worst pain ever. Except for childbirth....close second. ;^O


17 posted on 07/01/2013 6:11:38 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Obama lied, people died.)
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To: West Texas Chuck
Got a case of them about 10 years ago on my head and down the side of my neck. It was my neck that hurt (like hell -- burning kind of pain) and I went to the Doc right away thinking it was some kind of gland infection. Nope, it was shingles and the Doc told me I was smart to get there right away before the rash broke out. He gave me some meds, told me to take 3 days off work and stay away from any one who never had chicken pox.

Sure enough, three days later I felt fine, went back to work, and haven't had any problems since. (Knock on wood)

18 posted on 07/01/2013 6:11:40 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: West Texas Chuck

There is no cure for shingles, but treatment may shorten the length of illness and prevent complications. Treatment options include:

Antiviral medicines to reduce the pain and duration of shingles.
Pain medicines, antidepressants, and topical creams to relieve long-term pain.

Initial treatment

As soon as you are diagnosed with shingles, your doctor probably will start treatment with antiviral medicines. If you begin medicines within the first 3 days of seeing the shingles rash , you have a lower chance of having later problems, such as postherpetic neuralgia.

The most common treatments for shingles include:

Antiviral medicines, such as acyclovir, famciclovir, or valacyclovir, to reduce the pain and the duration of shingles.
Over-the-counter pain medicines, such as acetaminophen, aspirin, or ibuprofen, to help reduce pain during an attack of shingles.
Topical antibiotics, applied directly to the skin, to stop infection of the blisters.

For severe cases of shingles, some doctors may have their patients use corticosteroids along with antiviral medicines. But corticosteroids are not used very much any more. This is because studies show that taking a corticosteroid along with an antiviral medicine doesn’t help any more than just taking an antiviral medicine by itself.2

Ongoing treatment

If you have pain that persists longer than a month after your shingles rash heals, your doctor may diagnose postherpetic neuralgia (PHN), the most common complication of shingles. PHN can cause pain for months or years. It affects 10 to 15 out of 100 people who experience shingles.3 Treatment to reduce the pain of postherpetic neuralgia includes:

Antidepressant medicines, such as a tricyclic antidepressant (for example, amitriptyline).

Topical anesthetics that include benzocaine, which are available in over-the-counter forms that you can apply directly to the skin for pain relief. Lidocaine patches, such as Lidoderm, are available only by prescription.
Anticonvulsant medicines, such as gabapentin or pregabalin.
Opioids, such as codeine.

Topical creams containing capsaicin may provide some relief from pain. There is also a high-dose skin patch available by prescription (Qutenza) for postherpetic neuralgia. Capsaicin may irritate or burn the skin of some people, and it should be used with caution.

http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/shingles/shingles-treatment-overview


19 posted on 07/01/2013 6:11:47 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: West Texas Chuck

Mr Ditter got Shingles a few months after he had a double bypass 5 1/2 years ago. He was pretty miserable for several months but nothing serious happened. he still mentions that it itches from time to time. I immediately went to the doctor and got a Shingles vaccine shot. I hope it keeps me from having Singles If you are 50 get the shot!


20 posted on 07/01/2013 6:12:14 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: morphing libertarian
and it’s supposed to last the rest of my life.

Interesting turn of a phrase,could be interpreted other than intended. ( big grin )

21 posted on 07/01/2013 6:12:18 PM PDT by whodathunkit
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To: West Texas Chuck

Shingles are tough. I work/run an Urgent Care here in N.C. and have seen about 8 cases in the last 6 months. One was a woman who paid out of pocket for the shingles shot (200 dollars she said) who broke out in the rash the next day. She was madder than a wet hen. I told her that she was already infected if she broke out within 12 hours. Famvir is the way to go plus pain meds. Post herpetic neuralgia can last over a year. I have seen this twice in my 30 plus year career.


22 posted on 07/01/2013 6:12:23 PM PDT by contrarian
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To: West Texas Chuck

A doctor took blood from my mother’s arm and gave her a shot with it in her rear and she got over shingles in short order. He called it “treating you the old fashion way.” That was about 50 years ago...he couldn’t do it because of red tape today. But it worked. He was a neighbor and family friend. He also was a genius. Really.


23 posted on 07/01/2013 6:15:46 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: kcvl

Valtrex on this end. And by some miracle I went to the doctor the day after the rash, so I’m hoping the long-term impact is minimal.

Out of the friggin’ blue I tell ya.


24 posted on 07/01/2013 6:17:00 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. That should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I don’t know why you think Singles is funny. I know several people who have suffered horribly with it. My husband’s case was fairly easy compared to some. I know a man who had it in his eye and they were afraid he would end up blind.


25 posted on 07/01/2013 6:19:26 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: West Texas Chuck

Will keep you in my prayers. A dear lady at my church just got over a bad case. She recovered from open heart surgery last year and she said she would rather do that again than ever have shingles!!! I can only imagine what u r going thru....


26 posted on 07/01/2013 6:24:06 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Proud mommy on homepage....)
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To: Ditter
I don’t know why you think Shingles is funny

Correction....*thought*.I was new at the job,knew nothing about how medicine worked but that charge nurse set me straight.Twenty years of experience in that ER set me straight on many more things...very few of them funny.Heart attacks,strokes,gunshot wounds,car accidents,cancer,etc.

There's very little about medicine...health...that I consider funny *today*.

27 posted on 07/01/2013 6:27:37 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: webstersII

High doses of lysine have ended several severe episodes of shingles for me. Now I keep bottle of lysine tablets in my home in case I have future attacks.


28 posted on 07/01/2013 6:30:44 PM PDT by TheConservativeBanker
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To: West Texas Chuck
I'm in the same boat as you - just hit 50 and had the pox when I was 9 or 10 (and an impressive case of it, too). My sister-in-law was all but bedridden with it for several weeks last fall. This is going on my Q&A list at my next quarterly.


29 posted on 07/01/2013 6:31:57 PM PDT by Viking2002
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To: West Texas Chuck
Go to this link,, check it out, get some. Problem solved, after a little while.
30 posted on 07/01/2013 6:32:29 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: West Texas Chuck

I saw some ads on TV about shingles. I remember thinking that I had chicken pox when I was a kid.

Maybe 4-5 months ago, I was reading a brochure in the Dr.s waiting room about shingles. It got my attention. When I saw the Dr. I asked for the shot. My insurance paid for it.


31 posted on 07/01/2013 6:33:36 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: West Texas Chuck

When my mother and dad had the shingles the doctor gave them prednisone and and anti depressant for pain. He got the ‘recipe’ from a pain management specialist.


32 posted on 07/01/2013 6:33:56 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: West Texas Chuck

Had it at least three times. The last time it was by my left shoulder blade. I felt like someone had plunged a knife into my back. It lasted six months. Hope you feel better soon. :(


33 posted on 07/01/2013 6:35:14 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Liberalism. Ideas so great they have to be mandatory.-FReeper Osage Orange)
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To: West Texas Chuck

Shingles will seem easy if you meet your maker without knowing Him. I would advise you to find someone who knows Him and be introduced. It is the most important thing you will ever do. Plus the rewards are out of this world.


34 posted on 07/01/2013 6:36:44 PM PDT by Ramonne
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To: West Texas Chuck

I had them on my forehead and in my left eye some years ago. Since then, I’ve had them flare up in the nerves of my left forefinger (had to wear a splint for 6 months) and in my throat. On a pain scale of 10, these little suckers read about a 14.5


35 posted on 07/01/2013 6:37:32 PM PDT by redhead (NO GROUND TO THE DEVIL! Remember BENGHAZI!! Use Weaponized Prayer)
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To: whodathunkit

I’m 66


36 posted on 07/01/2013 6:44:34 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: kcvl

I tried looking up CVS to see if it listed the price for the vaccine (it didn’t) and came across their recommendation that those over 60 years of age have it. (older than I thought)

Hepatitus B vaccine was something offered at CVS and is recommended for:
Sexually active adults not in a mutually monogamous relationship.

Never hear this mentioned in the media so I was surprised.


37 posted on 07/01/2013 6:49:42 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: hinckley buzzard
There is a shingles vaccine widely available, even at drug stores.

From what I understand even if you've had shingles you should still get the vaccination.

38 posted on 07/01/2013 6:49:44 PM PDT by mupcat
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To: West Texas Chuck

What medication did the doctor give you?


39 posted on 07/01/2013 6:51:22 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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Anyone over about 50 who doesn't get vaccinated will have only himself to blame

Not everyone can afford it and it is considered only 70% effective.

40 posted on 07/01/2013 6:52:13 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: West Texas Chuck

When I got it I thought I was having a Heart Attack.

Shingles only affects one side of the body, I had the rash from the center of my Chest to the center of my Back.

Having Leukemia, I’ve been through Chemo Regimens twice in the past eight years, and pain from Shingles was a whole lot worse.

If you can get the Vaccine, get it right now.


41 posted on 07/01/2013 6:56:52 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (They can follow the Communist, I'll follow the Constitution...)
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To: West Texas Chuck
Never mind I just saw the post about Valtrex.

I had shingles and only washed the infected area with virgin coconut oil and ingested a tablespoon a day for the duration of the breakout. I was lucky because I didn't have any after pain. I got on Valtrex right away and did mega doses of Vitamin C.

A friend had the pain you are suffering from and used acupuncture. It helped him.

42 posted on 07/01/2013 6:57:20 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: West Texas Chuck
Did not know squat about it until I saw the blurbs about shots so I asked. Doc says yeah, at 65 and since you had the pox as a kid. Got the shot.

Hope that does the trick, as the OP writes, what I hear is not much fun.

43 posted on 07/01/2013 6:58:08 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: West Texas Chuck

I have had cold sores and used this and thought it helped, but don’t know about shingles. Cheap, worth a try, no side affects. Lemon balm is easy to grow. Makes a nice winter time tea. Relaxing. Good luck!

http://voices.yahoo.com/fight-herpes-cold-sores-shingles-lemon-balm-2346476.html

“... I have seen client after client complain of constant misery caused by herpes-family viruses, including herpes simplex 1 (cold sores), herpes simplex 2 (genital herpes), and herpes zoster (shingles).

In all of these cases, my clients said that they felt dramatic improvement in all of these herpes-related symptoms within a matter of minutes or hours after using lemon balm internally or topically...”

Worth a try.


44 posted on 07/01/2013 7:01:34 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: ransomnote

Cost for vaccine around here is between $185 - $220


45 posted on 07/01/2013 7:03:32 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: West Texas Chuck

Yes, Shingles really suck. It made me realize that I have a pretty high pain tolerance, but it sucked the life out of me.

I honestly believe that one reason it took about 4 months for me to get over the neuralga might be because I didn’t actually take any time off of work to recover. It was incredibly painful and I needed hydrocodone to get to sleep.

Since I had it, I heard that they’re now using anti-depressants to treat the nerve pain. I’ve also heard that capcacin cream can help too.

It’s not something that I’d wish on an enemy. Best wishes, I hope you recover quickly.

Mark


46 posted on 07/01/2013 7:04:31 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: svcw

I’ve had patients with Shingles since I started working in Health Care...in 1989


47 posted on 07/01/2013 7:05:32 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Sic semper evello mortem Tyrannis)
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To: morphing libertarian

I hope that was “Chicken Pox” and NOT “Small Pox!”

Mark


48 posted on 07/01/2013 7:06:27 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: tsomer

Ha!!


49 posted on 07/01/2013 7:06:29 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Sic semper evello mortem Tyrannis)
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To: hinckley buzzard

There is the vaccine which needs to be given w/in 72 hours of the start, and it will reduce symptoms. Also there are oral agents, like Retrovir and Acyclovir which can seriously help.

If you try to gut it out, it will take a month or more to recover fully.

You get the pain as the virus spreads through an area of the body known as a dermatome.... the section of the torso, for instance that is supplied nerves from the spine, where the little virus has been sitting dormant since chickenpox.

So, get the pills and take em. The nerve endings on the skin surface are killed off and in doing that there are blisters that form,filled with water. You need calamine lotion/benadryl to stop the damn itching of that. Have found that a combination of Capsaiscin cream (for joint/muscle pain and supplies a chemical “heat” sensation) with an Aspercreme, with aspririn in it—will help. Key ingredient is Menthol Salicylate, and it needs to be a good 1%. Wally world has the tubes for like 88 cents each on sale. Combine the two cremes having taken a warm (not hot) tub bath, and leaving your skin damp. Stuff will heat up and you’ll love the absence of itching for a while. The pain meds help too, but will wig you out.

Once the blisters break then everything scabs up, and leaves little scars— not real noticeable. The sensation of the deadened nerve endings remains, a numbness you have to get used to. Depending on where the dermatome is (check this out on wikipedia) this can be very troublesome (like if under your armpit or in your crotch).


50 posted on 07/01/2013 7:06:53 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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