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This German Woman Has Been Living Without Money For 16 Years (Here's how she did it...)
Business Insider ^ | 07/02/2013 | MANDI WOODRUFF

Posted on 07/02/2013 8:15:40 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

As we edge closer to a cashless society, some consumers are quietly challenging the idea of money in the first place––by giving it up completely.

Daniel Suelo, 50, traded his nine-to-five for dumpster diving and a cozy cave in Utah's canyonlands back in 2000.

But even before Suelo, there was Germany native Heidemarie Schwermer. In her early 50s, Schwermer decided to see what it'd be like to leave her cushy job as a psychotherapist and live money-free, a journey that's been documented in the film "Living Without Money."

Sixteen years later, she hasn't looked back. Schwermer, now pushing 70, recently took a pause during her stay in Hamelin, Germany to chat with Business Insider about why she decided to leave everything behind.

WWII refugees, Schwermer's family fled from Prussia to Germany in the 1940s. Her father had owned a successful coffee roastery and kept a nanny and full-time gardener on his payroll. "We were well-off but ended up as riff-raff," she says. "Then we became rich again and (we) had to defend it. I've always had to justify myself, whether we were rich or poor."

Throughout her life, she became fascinated with finding ways to live without money. A former teacher and psychotherapist, Schwermer formed Germany's first exchange circle, "Give And Take Central" in 1994. The group helped locals exchange simple services like babysitting or house cleaning for tangible goods. "I noticed that I needed money less and less," she told Business Insider. "And so I thought, I can try to live one year without money."

Schwermer attempted to live without money at least four times, she says, but it wasn't until a friend asked her to house sit for three months that she finally took the plunge. "I said, 'The time is right. Now I'll do it.'

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: cash; hobo; lazy; money; parasite; slackass

1 posted on 07/02/2013 8:15:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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2 posted on 07/02/2013 8:16:00 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

She’s been in prison?


3 posted on 07/02/2013 8:18:32 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Democrats: Robbing Peter to buy Paul's vote.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Basically, she can “live without money” because other people have it and give her stuff.


4 posted on 07/02/2013 8:19:32 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Trade? (snicker, snicker)


5 posted on 07/02/2013 8:20:28 AM PDT by ken5050 (Due to all the WH scandals, MSNBC is changing its slogan from "Lean Forward" to "BOHICA")
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To: SeekAndFind

This woman has watched too much Star Trek.


6 posted on 07/02/2013 8:21:02 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: SeekAndFind
What she says is actually true: it's why there's no money in heaven and the streets are paved with gold. (First gold is seen as a divine-metal, as it doesn't rust/corrode; second, there's going to be no need for money, so gold could be useless in that sense good for nothing but to be thrown outside and trod upon by men so to speak.)

That said though, there's no way that such a system will work [globally] without Jesus-as-King ruling over all the nations and all the people.

7 posted on 07/02/2013 8:24:31 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

As long as human life goes on, even if everyone were converted to Christ, money will still have its basic utility as “medium of exchange” and “store of value.” A price system conveys necessary information, and an efficient price system requires a unit of measure for comparison.


8 posted on 07/02/2013 8:27:32 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I want shrimp tacos.)
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To: SeekAndFind

She is not ‘living without money’. She is a Socialist European PARASITE who is living on OTHER PEOPLE’S MONEY.


9 posted on 07/02/2013 8:28:29 AM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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To: SeekAndFind

A bunch of us doing this would freak out the powers in Washington even more than we do by burning french fry oil in diesel engines.


10 posted on 07/02/2013 8:28:29 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Tax-chick

Which is why I said without Jesus-as-King, that is, the Returned Christ.


11 posted on 07/02/2013 8:29:07 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“A bunch of us doing this would freak out the powers in Washington”

When I used to live in Los Angeles you could drive to 5th and Alameda and literally see THOUSANDS of people living like this. Trust me, no one in Washington gave a damn about them.


12 posted on 07/02/2013 8:30:59 AM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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To: Little Ray

Traveling on the train is a large part of her life and that requires the exchange of money. It’s not like the dirty paper never touches her hands.


13 posted on 07/02/2013 8:31:05 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

A couch living drifter friend with no money, is nothing new.


14 posted on 07/02/2013 8:33:43 AM PDT by ansel12 (Sodom and Gomorrah, flush with libertarians and liberals, short on social conservatives.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So essentially she is just bartering....

I barter all the time with an exchange token called “Money”....

Except the government thinks it owns a certain amount of my exchange tokens be I earn them, or want to give them to others for goods, or put them in a place other people can use them to fund other people’s projects and then get paid for keeping it there....

The “Blinded Authority Loving Law and Order freepers” would want to jail her sorry butt for tax evasion....

But they forget the reason she was able to live like this is not because she has discovered some “Utopia” she has just escaped the “Dystopia” that is Government Tax.....


15 posted on 07/02/2013 8:33:51 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Cowboy Bob

She’s been in prison?

But she is evading taxes.....


16 posted on 07/02/2013 8:35:26 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: SeekAndFind
A lot of Obama voters live without money too.

YO, IT CALL WEAR FARE!


17 posted on 07/02/2013 8:36:53 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: SeekAndFind

This woman proves that most people have no idea what “money” is.


18 posted on 07/02/2013 8:37:46 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Giving up what one has, for an esoteric personal goal, is far different from not having anything and seeking to better oneself.


19 posted on 07/02/2013 8:37:50 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Obama lied, Stevens died, now Obama covers up the lies.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Old hippies never die. They just scrounge away.


20 posted on 07/02/2013 8:37:55 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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To: ansel12

A couch living drifter friend with no money, is nothing new...

I have a friend like that. It is interesting to talk with them and get insight into their thinking.

Even though there are many of their problems that a job could solve. They never seem to arrive at that conclusion.


21 posted on 07/02/2013 8:38:31 AM PDT by Hang'emAll (If guns kill people, do pencils misspell words?)
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To: Albion Wilde

Old hippies never die. They just scrounge away.

Old hippies are just clever at evading sales and income taxes by using bartering...

They forget it isn’t money that is the evil, but the government’s hand in money that makes it evil, much like how Businesses that are too big to fail are in bed with the government are evil, but businesses are not evil as an idea....


22 posted on 07/02/2013 8:39:38 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: SeekAndFind

Any woman can live without money if she wants to!!!


23 posted on 07/02/2013 8:46:14 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: SeekAndFind

Wrong.
She’s living without PAYING for anything. She doesn’t handle the money. Productive people work for it and give her free things.
She’s a freeloader and a parasite.

The enablers are a$$holes.


24 posted on 07/02/2013 8:50:32 AM PDT by I want the USA back (If I Pi$$ed off just one liberal today my mission has been accomplished.)
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To: I want the USA back

Our wealthy societies can handle quite a few people living this way. If everybody tried it, society would collapse within days.

More power to her. But she shouldn’t think her life tells us anything generally applicable.


25 posted on 07/02/2013 8:54:55 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: SeekAndFind

thanks to health care law- she would not be able to do so in the US

And yeah- shel ives for ‘free’ because other’s pick up her tab-


26 posted on 07/02/2013 9:05:19 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: SeekAndFind

It used to be legal in this ocutnry to go ‘off grid’ and live compeltely free- eatign off the land, makign your own clothes out of what you kill, never paying anything again- no taxes, no liscence, no bills- nothing- movign from one statel and to another ‘camping’ as you go- - howeverm thanks to a traitorous supreme court, we are no logner free gto do so- infact not paying for health care makes us criminals now apparently- neve3r beofre have Americans been FORCED to buy soemthing- if a person wanted to, they coudl go off grid completely- IF they wanted to drive, they are REQUIRED to purchase several things, but they are not obligate4d to drive if the choose not to etc-


27 posted on 07/02/2013 9:09:56 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: SeekAndFind
"...because I think a world without money is possible if we have other values..."

Like love! All we need is love!

An idiot, utopian liberal.

28 posted on 07/02/2013 9:30:10 AM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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To: Sherman Logan

Yeah. She should try getting some clean water to drink, or finding a place on the ground to take a dump where other people haven’t already because there are no toilets because all the water plant processing workers decided not to work out of “love” for their fellow man.


29 posted on 07/02/2013 9:34:18 AM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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To: OneWingedShark

Well, yes. One assumes everything will be handed by the Higher Intelligence at that point, rendering Thomas Sowell’s books obsolete.


30 posted on 07/02/2013 9:34:25 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I want shrimp tacos.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

This only works for a very few people. The more that do it, the more people that see there is value in what they abandon and throw away, the more it all starts to have ‘value’ and becomes a vendable commodity.


31 posted on 07/02/2013 9:36:39 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

If she had any teeth, I’d like to punch a few out.


32 posted on 07/02/2013 9:37:05 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SeekAndFind
The only payment she accepts, however, is enough to cover her train fare.

I stopped reading right there. That is not living a life "without money." And perhaps everyone can live that way singly, but if everyone does try to live that way at the same time then everyone starves. She can live that way so long as a substantial portion of everyone else does not also attempt it.

33 posted on 07/02/2013 9:41:41 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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You right wingers and your obssession with money and markets! Socialism is beyond money, beyond greed, beyond markets! Everyone will be equal! We won't need God. Everyone will be equal and have the same things, and we'll all be rich because we will have siezed the means of production. Long live Karl Marx!!!

/lobotomized, incoherent Marxist rant

34 posted on 07/02/2013 9:41:51 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Buck Off, Bronco Bama)
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To: Hardastarboard

Pretty good rant. I always crack myself up and start to sputter before I make it very far.


35 posted on 07/02/2013 9:43:54 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I want shrimp tacos.)
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To: CottShop

BTTT

Good post!


36 posted on 07/02/2013 9:45:13 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: SeekAndFind
What an idiot

“Money” is simply a medium of exchange. A tool to simplify the exchange/strorage of labor and materials. To abolish “money” would mean everything has to be exchanged in real time – impossible in a complex industrial world.

Yes, the powers that control money typically abuse it but that day may come to an end with transparent cryptocurrency. BitCoin is under attack because it threatens the global banking cartel’s currencies.


37 posted on 07/02/2013 10:00:34 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: MeganC

She moochs short term housing on a weekly basis. She scrumages through left overs for food. She depends on charity for clothes. It sounds like a pathetic lifestyle to me.


38 posted on 07/02/2013 10:37:22 AM PDT by freedom1st
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To: SeekAndFind
With “dumpster diving” you have to be correct every single time.The bacteria/viruses need to be “correct” only once.It's like repeated games of Russian Roulette...you might get away with one game...or even fifty.More than fifty? Yah,sure.
39 posted on 07/02/2013 11:22:13 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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The bacteria/viruses need to be “correct” only once.

I disagree. I’m not a dumpster diver, but for 30 years I have frequented a store that basically sells out of date,or overstocked food, or food in damaged packaging for a fraction of the usual list price. They sell dented cans for almost nothing (but won’t sell bulging ones). My more fastidious friends cringe when I refer to it as “used food”. I spend less on food, and have never had a noticeable health problem from the food. I doubt that all that food was bacteria and virus free, but nothing in this environment is. That’s why we have immune systems. Even dumpster food is probably generally cleaner than what our pre-sanitation, pre-refrigeration ancestors survived on.

Buying used or remaindered stuff is, of course, a parasitical strategy. If everyone tried to do it, there would be no one to buy the new stuff that feeds the pipeline.


40 posted on 07/02/2013 12:25:12 PM PDT by Stirner
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I disagree. I’m not a dumpster diver, but for 30 years I have frequented a store that basically sells out of date,or overstocked food, or food in damaged packaging...

I wonder what a medical bacteriologist might say in comparing what you do with "dumpster diving".For one thing you have to add the presence of flies to the act of "dumpster diving" which,I assume,isn't a factor where you shop.

And that's just for starters.

41 posted on 07/02/2013 12:31:59 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Let's say you could trade and barter for food and clothes, how do you pay the rent or taxes on your house without money. This is BS, she lives off of other people's money, like any true socialist parasite.

Also, you can't obtain a vehicle or buy fuel, tires and oil for it without money. So you have to scrounge rides from people who do have money and can buy cars, fuel, oil and tires for them. As I said a parasite living off of other people.

42 posted on 07/02/2013 11:44:15 PM PDT by calex59
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