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Trayvon tried to suffocate Zim over 'nothing'. Did Trayvn hve experience in quickly killing people?
july 3 2013 | lee martell

Posted on 07/03/2013 3:57:25 AM PDT by lee martell

It was raining lightly,two hours after sunset, and Trayvon began to follow the man who had been following him for the last 10 minutes. The man appeared to be some sort of watchman or rent-a-cop. The watchman, now known to be George Zimmerman lost sight of Trayvon for a moment. Trayvon appears in front of George with an angry expression, demanding to know why he was being tracked and talked about in a radio-phone. Trayvon decided to end their short discussion with a slamming punch to George's face, breaking his nose, and knocking him down onto the wet manicured lawn.

Trayvon clearly announced his intention saying 'You're gonna die tonight!". Before George could recover from the shock of being punched in the face, knocked onto his back and held still in a straddling vise, George realized that Trayvon had noticed Zimmerman's gun, and was trying to pull it away. During this struggle, Trayvon used his right hand as a pummeling fist. The fingers of Trayvon's left hand kept trying to pinch Zimmerman's nostrils shut, and the open palm of that same left hand was pressed down hard against Zimmerman's now bloodied mouth, all in an effort to starve him of needed air during a moment of frantic anxiety and exertion.

Luckily for George, he kept his gun, and used it to stop Trayvon from completing the spoken plan of killing. Trayvon found it very easy, alarmingly easy to work up a fury strong enough to kill a complete stranger who was not a direct threat at that point. I can only wonder how was it that Trayvon could so easily slip into the killer's mode over a minor dispute. One can only wonder if he had seen this particular method of quick suffocation to it's completion in his short life. Had this worked for him before? Remember when the Boston Bombers where finally, thankfully brought down by the law. Very soon, they became linked to past unsolved murders. We will see if Trayvon was also in possession of his own portfolio of mortal violence, as of yet unexplained.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: zimmerman

1 posted on 07/03/2013 3:57:25 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: lee martell

What if Santa Clause was real?


2 posted on 07/03/2013 4:05:30 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: lee martell
I guess it boils down to the difference between ordinary people and government thugs. All a JBT would have to do is say "He made a threatening gesture." end of story.

OTO Zimmerman was attacked by this boy thug (or so it seems from everything I've heard) and he's put through legal hell for defending himself.

I knew self defense was an extremely serious crime in NY, MA, NJ, MD, etc, but FL? I guess so many New Yorkers have moved there it's more like NY now.

3 posted on 07/03/2013 4:15:04 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: lee martell

Let’s not forget this Exchange:

O’MARA: And in that sense, you said that there was no evidence that Trayvon Martin was doing anything wrong, correct?

SERINO: None whatsoever.

O’MARA: You don’t know that, though, correct?

SERINO: No, I do not.

O’MARA: Right. You know that whatever he may have been planning just wasn’t completed, correct?

SERINO: I wouldn’t know. I wouldn’t know. There was no evidence to suggest that at all.

O’MARA: As a matter of fact, there was a type of a tool found in the area where Trayvon Martin may have been hiding, wasn’t there?

SERINO: Approximately five, six days after the investigation at the scene, yes.

O’MARA: Right. When you went back, you looked in the bushes and you found, what was it?

SERINO: It was a piece of an awning belonging to — I believe it was a piece of a window — piece of hardware basically. Looked like a slim Jim.

O’MARA: Slim Jim, and what’s a slim Jim?

SERINO: A slim Jim is a device used to jimmy locks on vehicles primarily.

O’MARA: To break into a vehicle?

SERINO: Yes, sir.

O’MARA: And that was found a few days after this event?

SERINO: Yes, sir.

O’MARA: Not particularly tied to this event by you, but it was there, wasn’t it?

SERINO: Yes, it was.

O’MARA: In the bushes just off of one of the residences, correct?

SERINO: In the bushes behind Jonathan Manalo’s residence.


4 posted on 07/03/2013 4:18:10 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: lee martell

Michael Savage claims Zimmerman guilty. Big guy, cop wannabe stalked little guy, need two hands to release pistol safety, click.....Don’t know if his gambit will bring in new audience but he’s losing what he has with that nonsence.


5 posted on 07/03/2013 4:20:25 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: from occupied ga
Well, we do know that Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton were in FL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJwDPCAo5Gw
6 posted on 07/03/2013 4:21:08 AM PDT by Bronzy
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To: lee martell

The rage has been constructed by the DemonRAT Party for the last 70 years: dependency, emasculation, sense of entitlement, and hatred of whites. The rage is real but the solution is freedom, liberty, and moral responsibility—not totalitarianism.


7 posted on 07/03/2013 4:30:42 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: lee martell

None of this matters. What matters is that Zim is a symbol of White oppressors and Treyvon is a symbol of oppressed downtrodden underclass minorities.

The trial is a trial of symbols, not of a real person.

And that’s why Zim will be found guilty.


8 posted on 07/03/2013 4:34:30 AM PDT by I want the USA back (If I Pi$$ed off just one liberal today my mission has been accomplished.)
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To: mosesdapoet

“”””Michael Savage claims Zimmerman guilty. Big guy, cop wannabe stalked little guy, need two hands to release pistol safety, click...””””

The Kel Tec Zimmerman used had no external safety. Here are pics of the actual gun used in the shooting:

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/18514185/photos-gun-used-by-george-zimmerman-in-the-shooting-of-trayvon-martin#axzz2XyuQu0fM


9 posted on 07/03/2013 4:38:22 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (NO MORE IRS!)
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To: mosesdapoet

I can’t think of a gun off the top of my head that needs two hands to release the safety (of the guns that actually have a safety). I believe that’s by design. From what I’ve read Michael Savage has it in for Zimmerman for some reason. I definitely would not put much faith in his expertise on firearms.


10 posted on 07/03/2013 4:45:31 AM PDT by suthener
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To: I want the USA back
The trial is a trial of symbols, not of a real person.

There have been far more horrendous black on white murders across the Country since then and the Main Street Media won't touch them...

11 posted on 07/03/2013 4:53:57 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: mosesdapoet

Michael Savage said that??? what trial is he watching???


12 posted on 07/03/2013 4:54:01 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: I want the USA back
And that’s why Zim will be found guilty.

He's already been tried and found guilty in the media. Even the Atlanta media - not close to Sanford FL at all - ALWAYS refers to Martin as "unarmed teenager, Treyvon Martin." I think all of the news weasels are told by their bosses only to refer to him that way. Not doper martin or thug wannabe martin.

13 posted on 07/03/2013 4:54:43 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: I want the USA back
And that’s why Zim will be found guilty. they want to find Zim guilty.

There fixed it.

14 posted on 07/03/2013 4:58:17 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: isthisnickcool

How could THAT gun be fired with a bent barrel? How did the barrel get bent? Or is that gun made that way?

And for all the NSA trolls, FU.


15 posted on 07/03/2013 5:08:16 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: saganite

There is no sanity clause.


16 posted on 07/03/2013 5:10:12 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: NTHockey

The barrel is tilted, not bent. It’s designed to do that so as to disengage from the slide when the slide moves backwards. The tilt is often more obvious on compact pistols such as that Kel-Tec than it is on “full size” pistols of similar design such as M1911A1 or Browning Hi-Power.


17 posted on 07/03/2013 5:17:20 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: mosesdapoet
Savage was retarded last night. Not at all in a firm grasp of the facts.

Savage claimed that Zim was charged with manslaughter ilo murder.

Savage claimed that Zim's gun had a safety.

Savage conveniently forgets that St. Tray had plenty of time to just go home and stay there.

Savage claimed that St. Tray attacked as Zim got out of his truck.

Savage claimed that Zim was on patrol rather than just seeing something on his way out to the grocery store. Zim apparently carried in most of his daily life.

St. Tray had an opportunity to not take drugs. St. Tray had an opportunity to tell his "GF" to buzz off and not follow her suggestions to give Zim a beating. St. Tray's biological parental units had years to be involved in properly raising their son. Etc.

Savage should know that there are all sorts of decisions that lead to the eventual situation of a moment.

18 posted on 07/03/2013 5:20:00 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: mosesdapoet

re: “Michael Savage claims Zimmerman guilty.”

Yes, I heard him last night. He makes the case that just from the fact that Zimmerman was carrying a gun with a round already chambered and the safety off, that Zimmerman was looking for an opportunity to use the weapon.

Now, how Savage knows that there was a chambered round and safety off, I don’t know - maybe that came out in court yesterday, but even if true, that doesn’t mean that Zimmerman was out to kill someone. That doesn’t prove malicious intent or the desire to kill Trayvon.

He made it sound as though Trayvon was rightfully fearful for his life by being watched/followed by Zimmerman. Savage acted as though “he knew” what was in Zimmerman’s mind and what his motives were - a frustrated, wannabe cop, who was just itching for something to happen so he could blow them away.

Savage was making huge jumps to conclusions in my opinion. I don’t know what he was trying to do. He also made it sound like Zimmerman was some sort of martial arts expert and could have easily gotten Martin off of him, but, according to Savage, Zimmerman chose to just shoot him.

Savage admitted that the prosecution has been terrible, but he claims that the guilt of Zimmerman is apparent simply from the fact that he was armed with a gun with a chambered round and safety off. He claimed to be very familiar with the type of pistol Zimmerman had - said he had one.

Savage sounded no different than the crap you hear all day from the mainstream media.

It was sickening to listen to.


19 posted on 07/03/2013 5:27:25 AM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: lee martell
I can only wonder how was it that Trayvon could so easily slip into the killer's mode over a minor dispute.
Black liberation theology - it's all the rage ...
20 posted on 07/03/2013 5:41:01 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Iscool

Treyvon Martin grows up

The media should be referring to this guy as "unarmed man Shawn Custis"

21 posted on 07/03/2013 5:42:55 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: mosesdapoet

I always thought Savage was an idiot.

Now I know it for certain.


22 posted on 07/03/2013 5:43:14 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: NTHockey

The barrel is “loose” like that when the slide is back. Most inexpensive handguns are like that. I have Taurus Millenium II that does the same thing.


23 posted on 07/03/2013 5:49:44 AM PDT by the_boy_who_got_lost
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To: lee martell
I can only wonder how was it that Trayvon could so easily slip into the killer's mode over a minor dispute.

Easy - generationally engrained racial hatred.

24 posted on 07/03/2013 5:52:11 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: from occupied ga

Good point. Bruises, contusions and broken teeth aren’t life threatening injuries either.


25 posted on 07/03/2013 5:53:50 AM PDT by Hoboken (truth)
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To: lee martell

26 posted on 07/03/2013 6:05:03 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who could have known that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional news?)
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To: Uncle Chip

Your daily trial thread has certainly bloomed. Hope new folks are learning a lot, checking out CTH, and reading the old threads.

Re, the “Slim Jim”: I hope MoM gets the jury to connect this with TM’s unexplained 40+ minute walk home from a store five minutes away... The DeeDee’s ain’t be tellin’, and I presume Easy Match shows non-detect for Trayvon’s voice residue on the tool. Where was No Limit Jimmy ditched relative to TM’s known route and timing?

The ME’s testimony should end any talk of BdlR intentionally blowing the case — he is scaping the depths of corruption for anything. I haven’t been able to follow the trial, but hope MoM asked Rao whether she can detect a concussion or subdural hematoma from exterior photos, and if patients can self-diagnose in real time. Diagnosing a patient she has never seen demonstrates incompetence — good thing she normally deals with subjects who are already dead.

People seem disheartened by yesterday’s action; the State still has nothing, and the D has not even started! And speaking of “D’s” — the State now wants to say GZ was a legal scholar. Didn’t they already reveal that he made a D in the law class?


27 posted on 07/03/2013 6:25:46 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Chewbarkah
hope MoM asked Rao whether she can detect a concussion or subdural hematoma from exterior photos, and if patients can self-diagnose in real time. Diagnosing a patient she has never seen demonstrates incompetence — good thing she normally deals with subjects who are already dead.

LOL. I don't think he asked that but that is not over by a longshot because they will bring their own ME.

28 posted on 07/03/2013 6:29:42 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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