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WHY ARE PEOPLE SO IGNORANT AND ANGRY?

Posted on 07/03/2013 7:53:54 AM PDT by 7thson

An interesting thing just happened to me. I am walking down the hallway where I work and coming down the corridor towards me is a black person who is blind. I am walking on my right side and he is walking on his right side. There is office furniture along the wall in his path. I call out there is office furniture in front of you in about ten feet. Loud enough for him to hear. He keeps walking and wham – walks face first into the side of a desk standing up on its end. I grab him to see if he is okay and to try to help him. He angrily shrugs me off and says to let him be, to let him walk on his own. I walk away pissed off.

The thought came to me as I walked away that this is symbolic of our American culture today. We see people about to walk over the cliff or into a wall. We yell out to warn them of the danger. They walk off the cliff or into the wall anyway. Then they get angry when we try to pick them up, help them, and set them on the right path.

Has it always been like this? Has our society evolved into a surly and ignorant populace over the last few decades?


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1 posted on 07/03/2013 7:53:54 AM PDT by 7thson
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To: 7thson

Has it always been like this? Has our society evolved into a surly and ignorant populace over the last few decades?
No and yes...


2 posted on 07/03/2013 7:55:45 AM PDT by seeker41
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To: 7thson

that is when you are justified in calling them a dumba$$ and walking away


3 posted on 07/03/2013 7:58:07 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: 7thson
Has our society evolved into a surly and ignorant populace over the last few decades?


4 posted on 07/03/2013 7:58:20 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: 7thson

You’re more than welcome to carry me up the stairs.

Just doing my part.


6 posted on 07/03/2013 8:00:41 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 7thson

It’s due to government schools and the culture of professional victim hood spawned by their indoctrination.

After fourteen years of schooling, the vast majority of graduates are only qualified to join the FSA (Free “Stuff” Army).


7 posted on 07/03/2013 8:00:43 AM PDT by noprogs (Borders, Language, Culture....all should be preserved)
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To: 7thson
Has it always been like this? Has our society evolved into a surly and ignorant populace over the last few decades?

Yes, it has; however, I am not sure this is the best example. I've noticed that blind people do not like to be grabbed. Plus, he's blind. I don't blame him for general surliness.
8 posted on 07/03/2013 8:01:43 AM PDT by needmorePaine
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To: 7thson

You weren’t too busy texting to see him?

You weren’t too excited about filming him for some variant America’s Funniest Videos to warn him?

You weren’t too absorbed in your own problems to stop and check on his?

The problem is obvious to me, but liberals would say the problem is you. It’s the government’s job to look after people, not yours. Your role is supposed to just be posting what happened with “LOL” for a comment.


9 posted on 07/03/2013 8:01:45 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: 7thson

He was angry at himself and his problem, not specifically at you. It was not about you and not about his race. And yes, that kind of thing has always been true. Some people are kind, some bitter, some joyful, some hostile. Some meet disability, loss, disappointment, pain, or loneliness with courage and grace, while others shrink into bitterness.

Best solution I’ve ever encountered: when someone pisses me off like this, I pray for them. I pray that they will turn to prayer, too. Guess what? It often works. Maybe not right this minute or even this year, but down the road. And I pray for myself too, so I’ll meet my own rejection from them with mildness rather than irritation.

—The OTTB mare, now trying to practice what she so glibly preaches, laughing at herself and her pride


10 posted on 07/03/2013 8:02:43 AM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare--now a Marine Mom)
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To: 7thson
America is a lot less polite these days, but... I might be crucified for saying this even here, but in my experience handicapped people are often unspeakably rude to anyone who tries to help them. Deaf people are the absolute worst. I've had people sign at me, and when I didn't understand (or God forbid unthinkingly said something in reply) become almost physically belligerent. People in wheelchairs are almost as bad. A few years ago my 89-Y.O. grandmother got run over by a fellow in a power chair because she couldn't get out of his way fast enough. Fortunately she was not seriously hurt. I can imagine that an "empowered" blind man might resent being warned that there is stuff in his way.
11 posted on 07/03/2013 8:04:44 AM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
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To: 7thson

It’s mostly because our melting pot is filled with a large percentage of throwaway people that are like an anchor around our necks. This is the main problem with America that is much worse than the Muslim threat.


12 posted on 07/03/2013 8:05:04 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: 7thson

Maybe he wasn’t really blind.


13 posted on 07/03/2013 8:06:55 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: ottbmare

Well said.


14 posted on 07/03/2013 8:07:42 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: jboot

You’ll get no argument from my crippled ass. If I don’t want help its no reason to be rude when a simple “No thank you” will suffice.

I don’t even use handicapped parking because its too easy to get lazy and there are people in far worse shape than me.


15 posted on 07/03/2013 8:09:29 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 7thson

7thson, yes, there’s a lot of rudeness and ignorance. Many people aren’t civil because they don’t have a clue what it is. They live in a zoo. But there are folks like you and me, and many others, who were taught as little ones how to be kind and generous, until we felt it in our own hearts. We must continue to demonstrate this quality to others. Who knows but that, that man might have been startled and embarrassed at the time, but felt remorse about his behavior towards you after he recovered. Last week I helped a black woman get orange juice out of a long case in the grocery store. A few minutes later, I was struggling with my own groceries, felt a little tap on my shoulder, and there she was grinning from ear-to-ear. “Now, may I help YOU?” But, I know how you feel. Sometimes it’s hard not to lose heart. :-(


16 posted on 07/03/2013 8:10:17 AM PDT by floralamiss ("For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.")
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To: 7thson
The country was really divided in the 60’s. Some of the first elections were quit slanderous. I think division has been a prominent part of this country. Bill Clinton did a good job of defining sides to take advantage during his election. Obama and the media developed a hate of George Bush to further his take over. John “The Traitor” Kerry accused Viet Nam Vets of being baby killers and war criminals while he was off to Paris talking with the enemy to get his marching orders and possible funding. I am afraid it is here for a while yet.
17 posted on 07/03/2013 8:14:48 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: mountainlion
The country was really divided in the 60’s.

If you think this country was divided in the 1960's, check out the 1860's. The 1960's was a national love-in compared to the Civil War.

18 posted on 07/03/2013 8:17:48 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: 7thson

It’s all a result of hubris, which is a natural consequence of a decadent society.


19 posted on 07/03/2013 8:18:24 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: 7thson

No it hasn’t always been this way. But slowly, since the 1960s, pointing out to someone that they are wrong, has become “judgemental”. And that is the highest sin in today’s “do your own thing” culture.

My suggestion is to allow the Darwin Effect to cull them from the breeding pool. . . (evil grin)


20 posted on 07/03/2013 8:18:42 AM PDT by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
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To: 7thson
coming down the corridor towards me is a black person who is blind.

Why was it important to the story to mention that he was black?

21 posted on 07/03/2013 8:23:54 AM PDT by Renkluaf
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To: 7thson

Lowering the bar to make it easy, for the lazy, only makes the rest of us become lazy.


22 posted on 07/03/2013 8:25:16 AM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: floralamiss

That’s a great story; and perfect example of how important it is to be ready and willing to help others.

As someone earlier posted, you never know when your kindness pays off. And I know, a payoff is the last reason we offer kindness to others.


23 posted on 07/03/2013 8:25:46 AM PDT by HiJinx (Just kill the bill, already...)
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To: Tau Food
1960’s was a national love-in compared to the Civil War.

I saw the 1960 first hand though. I was called a baby killer by my neighbors because of what John the traitor Kerry had said. I am studying the revolutionary times and civil war times as part of my ancestry. My personal experience is the most vivid.

24 posted on 07/03/2013 8:25:56 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: 7thson

I appreciate your metaphor. A very telling one.

But, perhaps the guy is also deaf?


25 posted on 07/03/2013 8:33:42 AM PDT by newheart (The worst thing the Left ever did was to convince the world it was not a religion.)
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To: 7thson

I’m always angry...but towards liberals.


26 posted on 07/03/2013 8:37:10 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: 7thson

Well have you thought about the possibility that this blind person might be sick and tired of being patronized for his handicap and treated like an imbecile? Perhaps he would rather bump into the occasional piece of furniture and consider that a small price to pay for his independence and personal dignity.


27 posted on 07/03/2013 8:42:15 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: 7thson
Many of the people that you see with dark glasses and a white cane can see just fine. I saw one approach a car, open the driver's door, throw the cane into the back seat and drive off.

So . . .

28 posted on 07/03/2013 8:46:12 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: jboot
America is a lot less polite these days

Which is why I refuse to engage in any extraneous conversation at all with anyone younger than me. I was raised right and know how to comport myself in the presence of ladies and gentlemen. Too bad they are far and few between. Suits me though.

Example; I had a lovely conversation at the grocery store produce department last night with a lovely 70 year old woman who was very carefully selecting just the right Red Bliss potatoes from a bin.
I politely waited my turn so she could finish. When she did, she turned and saw me waiting. She apologized for hogging the potato bin. I assured her there was no need for an apology. With a huge sunshine smile I had already covertly ensured she hadn't taken all the "good ones".
We shared a laugh and then shared Red Bliss recipes. It was short, polite and delightful.

Imagine trying that with a 30 year old woman who has her face in her iPhone and her head up her arse. No thanks.

29 posted on 07/03/2013 8:50:58 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Tactical Awareness. Use your brain. Then bring the pain.)
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To: 7thson

You ruined his lawsuit.


30 posted on 07/03/2013 8:52:02 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: 7thson

Let the guy be.

He has to fight for his indepence every day and probably wants to be seen as someone who can manage just fine.

If he allows everyone to see him as a cripple then his opportunities will be crippled.

If he allows himself to be influenced by what other think and comes to view himself as a cripple well, there is nothing worse than amputating a man’s self determination.


31 posted on 07/03/2013 8:54:04 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: mountainlion

“I was called a baby killer by my neighbors because of what John the traitor Kerry had said.”

Thank you for your service.

We all know who the REAL baby killers are these days.


32 posted on 07/03/2013 8:56:21 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: 7thson

Anger is not the problem. The problem is their anger has been directed in the wrong direction. The real blame for the issues of the day have been redirected to the wrong causes. Our saviors of the problems are also the enemy. The real savior Jesus and your own power has been suppressed.


33 posted on 07/03/2013 8:59:37 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: 7thson
Point One: If one helps people with the expectation of obtaining gratitude, or even indifference, in return, one is cruising for a psychological bruising. Point Two: I have seen people with better vision than you described rocking a white cane - so what's this dude's deal? Point Three: Obviously, this man is going through the seven stages of grief regarding his loss of eyesight, and has yet to get past the Anger, and move on to the Acceptance stage.
34 posted on 07/03/2013 9:10:06 AM PDT by Trentamj
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Excellent observation. That’s exactly how society is - they are going off a cliff, suffer the consequences and don’t even care! They’re getting used to mediocrity, or even doom.


35 posted on 07/03/2013 9:13:35 AM PDT by Joann37
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To: cripplecreek

That is all I ask for. I work with a parapelegic fellow. He’s knowledgeable, polite and courteous. He doesn’t want help but he is not rude at all about it. He just says “no thanks” and does his thing.


36 posted on 07/03/2013 9:21:21 AM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
I refuse to engage in any extraneous conversation at all with anyone younger than me

Not a bad plan, especially in public or in mixed company. But in the grocery store I never see anyone younger than me buying produce and raw food. They go straight for the trendy upsell items; organic boxed/frozen foods, power beverages and the like. I stay out of those aisles.

The only other stores I hang out in sell things that go "bang". Not many young trendoids come in, and when they do they are usually good for some laughs.

37 posted on 07/03/2013 9:27:03 AM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
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could it be because unchecked Immigration ?


38 posted on 07/03/2013 9:46:56 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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His pride was hurt. He lashed out. You’re kinda the bad guy here. Not for trying to help him, but for not understanding that, and walking away mad.


39 posted on 07/03/2013 9:53:54 AM PDT by I Shall Endure
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To: jboot

I ignore every one under the age of 60.


40 posted on 07/03/2013 9:56:38 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: ottbmare
Best solution I’ve ever encountered: when someone pisses me off like this, I pray for them.

Grant me the serenity to accept the things I can not change
The courage to change the things I can
And the wisdom to know where to bury the bodies of those who really piss me off

41 posted on 07/03/2013 10:08:30 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: jboot
The only other stores I hang out in sell things that go "bang".

Actually, that's the exception when I'm in public. I won't horn in on a shop owner instructing someone but I have found 100% of the young types in those establishments to be respectful, polite and eager for knowledge.

Sort of like Henry Bowman in "Unintended Consequences".

42 posted on 07/03/2013 10:11:27 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Tactical Awareness. Use your brain. Then bring the pain.)
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To: 7thson; a fool in paradise

I tell ya, I’m pissed off all the time at the society being surly and ignorant, so keep away from me, buster!


43 posted on 07/03/2013 10:18:56 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: 7thson; Mr. K; cripplecreek; ottbmare; Pollster1; Old Sarge; noprogs; jboot; IbJensen; Tau Food; ...
It is easy to feel that way, but if you want a positive outlook, check out this video from Bill Whittle, our "Virtual President" who has some great views on this subject:

Bill Whittle: Civility

For those of you who don't know who he is, I regard him as one of the foremost conservative political commentators today. He is simply brilliant.

44 posted on 07/03/2013 10:25:40 AM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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And I highly recommend PJTV.com...just great stuff.


45 posted on 07/03/2013 10:26:56 AM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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maybe its just the one guy . he could be having a lousy day


46 posted on 07/03/2013 10:31:15 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/ -- http://thepurginglutheran.tumblr.com/)
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Yes. And he might very well be pissed that he walked into something he didn’t expect to be there, or just at what he perceived as his own clumsiness.

I tend to give people a lot of leeway on these things. When many people hurt themselves, they tend to be pretty hard on themselves, especially the older you get.


47 posted on 07/03/2013 10:34:35 AM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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To: Revolting cat!

But that is just you, RC...:)

Curmudeons are SUPPOSED to be cranky, dontcha know...


48 posted on 07/03/2013 10:35:28 AM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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To: Renkluaf
coming down the corridor towards me is a black person who is blind.

Why was it important to the story to mention that he was black?

Perhaps he's an angry black man that just happens to be blind? "I don't need no help from no white-ass cracker"

49 posted on 07/03/2013 10:50:32 AM PDT by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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To: cripplecreek

Having recently become handicapped, I agree with you.

When someone offers me a hand, I thank them warmly, even if I just touch that hand.

There are too many surly people in the world.


50 posted on 07/03/2013 11:02:45 AM PDT by FrogMom (Chicken Little is coming, and he's right!)
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