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Is Putin real Christian or Communist KGB Hoax?
Rafael Brom and Libor Brom ^ | 07/03/2013 | Rafael Brom

Posted on 07/03/2013 11:19:14 AM PDT by Marianland

Looks like that many Christians forgot that Russian Orthodox Church was and is controlled by KGB. Their priests were and are KGB agents. Yes, they want to conquer world, not with Russian Christianity but with long range planned Russian Communism which they exported successfully with Communist religion "Theory of Evolution" to the West. Now they are pretending that they are good guys with their phony Christianity. Wolf change clothing but never his nature and useful idiots getting hooked on this Putin's "Christianity" hoax.

Lenin, the founder of the first Communist state, put it simply: "First we will take Eastern Europe, then the masses of Asia. We will encircle the last bastion of capitalism, the United States of America. We will not need to fight. It will fall as a ripe fruit into our hands." And, "We must practice coexistence with other nations, until we are strong enough to take over by means of world revolution.... We are not pacifists. Conflict is inevitable. Great political questions can be solved only through violence.... It is inconceivable that Communism and capitalism can exist side by side. Inevitably one must perish.''

Rykov, Lenin's successor in the Council of Soviet Commissars, corroborated: "It is our duty to inculcate in the minds of nations the theories of international friendship, pacifism, and disarmament, encouraging their resistance to military appropriations and training, without ever relaxing our own efforts in building our military equipment.''

Manuilsky, a prominent Soviet professor at the School of Political Warfare, said: "The bourgeoisie will have to be put to sleep. We shall begin by Launching the most spectacular peace movement on record. There will be electrifying overtures and unheard-of concessions. The capitalist countries, stupid and decadent, will rejoice to cooperate in their own destruction. They will leap at another chance to be friends."

Khrushchev, former Soviet prime minister, said: "We cannot expect Americans to jump from capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving Americans doses of socialism until they suddenly awake to find out they have Communism.''


TOPICS: Religion
KEYWORDS: atheisttool; christianity; communism; kgb; noheisnt; putin; russia; vladputin
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1 posted on 07/03/2013 11:19:14 AM PDT by Marianland
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To: Marianland

Dunno, but I do know he’s more of a Christian than the occupier of the White House.


2 posted on 07/03/2013 11:21:12 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: null and void

How do you know that? You actually think communism is Christianity?


3 posted on 07/03/2013 11:24:09 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: null and void

Dunno, but I do know he’s more of a Christian than the occupier of the White House.


I’d prefer Putin to the evil bastard we’ve got.


4 posted on 07/03/2013 11:24:48 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: null and void
Dunno, but I do know he’s more of a Christian than the occupier of the White House.

One of these two leaders is still married to the mother of his children, and another is engaged to his mistress.

5 posted on 07/03/2013 11:28:29 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: null and void

Are you related to Walter Duranty?


6 posted on 07/03/2013 11:35:02 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Marianland

Sunni.


7 posted on 07/03/2013 11:35:20 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: wideawake

Another day, another Putin love-worship thread on FR.


8 posted on 07/03/2013 11:39:14 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Marianland

If Putin considers himself a “Christian” I wonder how he reconciles that with being a dictator.


9 posted on 07/03/2013 11:44:13 AM PDT by gdani
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To: 1rudeboy
Another day, another Putin love-worship thread on FR.

It takes a special psychological type to simultaneously despise President Obama for his incipient stabs toward a surveillance state and yet revere President Putin, the KGB man in charge of coordinating the Stasi's activities with the KGB's.

10 posted on 07/03/2013 11:45:31 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: nickcarraway
We're 64th cousins.

I got 6+ billion of them...

11 posted on 07/03/2013 11:45:42 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: wideawake

Because Russia has churches. /s


12 posted on 07/03/2013 11:46:25 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: gdani
If Putin considers himself a “Christian” I wonder how he reconciles that with being a dictator.

The same way other dictators have been ever since about 100 AD.

The same way Nancy Pelosi goes from cheer-leading and funding the murder of the unborn on a scale even Nazi Germany would have rejected, to The Church for Holy Communion.

The same way The Church will give her the Blood and Body of Christ, even in The Vatican itself.

13 posted on 07/03/2013 11:50:51 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: wideawake; laplata
And one other thing: Obama simply is a low-level, community organizer who aspires to reaching the level of someone as Putin--a professional at his own level with innumerable successes to his credit.

To prefer him? That's some stupid mixed with special sauce.

14 posted on 07/03/2013 11:51:20 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Marianland
Looks like that many Christians forgot that Russian Orthodox Church was and is controlled by KGB. Their priests were and are KGB agents. Yes, they want to conquer world, not with Russian Christianity but with long range planned Russian Communism which they exported successfully with Communist religion "Theory of Evolution" to the West. Now they are pretending that they are good guys with their phony Christianity. Wolf change clothing but never his nature and useful idiots getting hooked on this Putin's "Christianity" hoax.

Ping for later

15 posted on 07/03/2013 11:51:32 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: wideawake
It takes a special psychological type to simultaneously despise President Obama for his incipient stabs toward a surveillance state and yet revere President Putin, the KGB man in charge of coordinating the Stasi's activities with the KGB's.

You mean like the ones who adored Bush the elder, President and former CIA director?

16 posted on 07/03/2013 11:53:13 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: null and void

I still remember a time (fondly), when FReepers would make fun of relativistic arguments.


17 posted on 07/03/2013 11:56:45 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Marianland

“Manuilsky, a prominent Soviet professor at the School of Political Warfare, said: “The bourgeoisie will have to be put to sleep. We shall begin by Launching the most spectacular peace movement on record. There will be electrifying overtures and unheard-of concessions. The capitalist countries, stupid and decadent, will rejoice to cooperate in their own destruction. They will leap at another chance to be friends.”

Khrushchev, former Soviet prime minister, said: “We cannot expect Americans to jump from capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving Americans doses of socialism until they suddenly awake to find out they have Communism.’’

OK, but what does this have to do with Putin?


18 posted on 07/03/2013 11:58:10 AM PDT by Augustinian monk
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To: 1rudeboy

To prefer him? That’s some stupid mixed with special sauce.


You’re welcome to your opinion. If you can’t see how evil Obama is, you’re eating the stupid sauce. No way can Putin be worse than Obama. You need to wake up.


19 posted on 07/03/2013 12:03:45 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: 1rudeboy

They were more relevant before the rest of “The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”


20 posted on 07/03/2013 12:04:29 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: laplata

Obama is to Putin, as amateur is to professional. Careful what you wish for, sweetheart.


21 posted on 07/03/2013 12:05:05 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Careful what you wish for, sweetheart.


I ain’t your sweatheart, smart ass.


22 posted on 07/03/2013 12:07:13 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: laplata

Putin is an Orthodox Christian.

http://global.christianpost.com/news/vladimir-putin-vows-to-defend-christianity-worldwide-69002/

http://www.truthinmedia.org/Activism/wsj1-25-2K.html


23 posted on 07/03/2013 12:07:54 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: laplata

I’m sorry . . . that was a lazy way of saying, “you must be new to politics and foreign affairs.”


24 posted on 07/03/2013 12:08:32 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

I’m sorry . . . that was a lazy way of saying, “you must be new to politics and foreign affairs.”


Vietnam combat vet, speak Spanish, worked with Oliver North against Contras in Nicaragua, confidant of Yuri Bezmenov, KGB defector, family friend of Ronald Reagan, etc.

No apology needed.


25 posted on 07/03/2013 12:19:02 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: laplata

And completely ignorant of Vladimir Putin. So what’s the excuse?


26 posted on 07/03/2013 12:19:50 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: laplata

I’ll accept that admission that your first comment on this thread was a knee-jerk reaction that you didn’t completely think-through . . . given your experience.


27 posted on 07/03/2013 12:21:54 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: NKP_Vet

Putin is an Orthodox Christian.


And Putin is not a homosexual like Obama.


28 posted on 07/03/2013 12:22:25 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: laplata

Sorry, I don’t believe the leaders of the Russian Orthodox Church are a bunch of Communist thugs at heart. Does not compute. The Church has perserved through a myriad of Communist leaders in Russia, and how this guy or any guy can know the hearts of all the Church leaders is beyond me.


29 posted on 07/03/2013 12:23:28 PM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: 1rudeboy

“I’d prefer Putin to the evil bastard we’ve got”.

I stand by that.


30 posted on 07/03/2013 12:25:39 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: flaglady47

I would prefer Putin to Obama.


31 posted on 07/03/2013 12:27:26 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: 1rudeboy

And completely ignorant of Vladimir Putin. So what’s the excuse?


You are not listening. I made the statement that I would prefer Putin to Obama. You can take that or leave it. There’s no reason for a long, drawn out discussion.


32 posted on 07/03/2013 12:37:17 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: flaglady47
Sorry, I don’t believe the leaders of the Russian Orthodox Church are a bunch of Communist thugs at heart. Does not compute. The Church has perserved through a myriad of Communist leaders in Russia, and how this guy or any guy can know the hearts of all the Church leaders is beyond me.

Applying the Roman Catholic "gates of hell" argument here, when did God promise to preserve the breakaway Orthodox churches?

33 posted on 07/03/2013 12:43:18 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Marianland

Yes, the Son of Satan Obama will bring Russian Red Army here with help of Demon Putin and many of you will be marching in front lines waving Russian flags. In the beginning Russian army soldiers will wear U.S. Military uniform and speak perfect English until Marshal Law is accomplished. Maybe some of you should check long range plans of Obama’s crime organization - The Weather Underground.


34 posted on 07/03/2013 12:43:31 PM PDT by Marianland (Refugee from Socialism)
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To: flaglady47

Fact of the matter is, the Russian Orthodox Church (as was the Catholic Church), was completely penetrated by the KGB (and the likes of Putin) during the Cold War. That’s not to say that there were not honorable dissidents in both Churches.


35 posted on 07/03/2013 12:43:53 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: laplata

I have been voting for the lessor of two evils all my life so I am pretty good at it. I will take Putin over the post turtle any day


36 posted on 07/03/2013 12:48:33 PM PDT by winodog
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To: winodog

He’d make the trains run on time, amirite?


37 posted on 07/03/2013 12:53:51 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: winodog

I have been voting for the lessor of two evils all my life so I am pretty good at it. I will take Putin over the post turtle any day


And Putin isn’t deliberately ruining his country.

Anyone who would prefer Obama to Putin is not thinking rationally.


38 posted on 07/03/2013 12:54:38 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: laplata

Obama will get only two terms as President. That’s enough for me.


39 posted on 07/03/2013 12:56:56 PM PDT by MetaThought
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To: MetaThought

Obama will get only two terms as President. That’s enough for me.


Obama’s damage to this country is going to last forever.


40 posted on 07/03/2013 12:58:58 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: MetaThought

Obama will get only two terms as President. That’s enough for me.


Obama’s damage to this country is going to last forever.


41 posted on 07/03/2013 12:59:01 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: Marianland
Yes, the Son of Satan Obama will bring Russian Red Army here with help of Demon Putin and many of you will be marching in front lines waving Russian flags. In the beginning Russian army soldiers will wear U.S. Military uniform and speak perfect English until Marshal Law is accomplished. Maybe some of you should check long range plans of Obama’s crime organization - The Weather Underground.

Is that what brought you back to FR after a four-year absence?

42 posted on 07/03/2013 1:00:42 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: laplata

You can say that again!
(oh. you did)


43 posted on 07/03/2013 1:03:39 PM PDT by Gamecock ("Ultimately, Jesus died to save us from the wrath of God." —R.C. Sproul)
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To: Marianland

The Son of Satan Obama loves Russia and Demon Putin. That is why he gave his children Russian names because of his deep “love” for American culture. He will bring Russian army here dressed in U.S. Military uniforms and these Russian soldiers will speak perfect English and they will keep killing you without mercy, while American will seek help from Putin. Then Russian Red Army will arrive as a “Liberator” and establish global Iron Curtain and rape all your women just like they did in Easter and Central Europe “Liberating” countries from Hitler.


44 posted on 07/03/2013 1:07:03 PM PDT by Marianland (Refugee from Socialism)
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To: Alex Murphy

“Applying the Roman Catholic “gates of hell” argument here, when did God promise to preserve the breakaway Orthodox churches?”

Well before the Bishop of Rome went rogue.


45 posted on 07/03/2013 1:14:01 PM PDT by firebasecody (Orthodoxy, proclaiming the Truth since AD 33)
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To: 1rudeboy

Never said anything such thing


46 posted on 07/03/2013 1:19:45 PM PDT by winodog
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To: Marianland
Yes, they want to conquer world, not with Russian Christianity but with long range planned Russian Communism which they exported successfully with Communist religion "Theory of Evolution" to the West.

You had me going till I got to this line. You obviously can't really be Catholic (or Orthodox) because as we all know, Catholics and Orthodox both fervently believe in evolution and in Biblical "higher criticism." In fact, as every good Catholic/Orthodox knows, only "inbred trailer trash whose parents are brother and sister" object to evolution and higher criticism. After all, "reason does not contradict faith," and both evolution and higher criticism are products of "reason." No real Catholic would want to be caught dead sounding like one of those "illiterate rednecks." [/sarcasm]

I don't know how long you've been here, but the Catholics here will run off anyone who claims to be Catholic and denies evolution.

47 posted on 07/03/2013 1:22:34 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Marianland

Theres not enough Russian soldiers. The wolf in sheeps clothes needs to keep his Army at home, especially the best troops.

No troops will march in America. If the devils want to destroy America they have dozens of better ways.

Besides the post turtle has over 100 million people on his payroll. They will march where ever he points without Russia


48 posted on 07/03/2013 1:24:39 PM PDT by winodog
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To: 1rudeboy

no kidding. the guy signs anti-homosexual legislation and he must be a Christian . maybe he just doesn’t like homosexuality


49 posted on 07/03/2013 1:31:03 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/ -- http://thepurginglutheran.tumblr.com/)
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To: winodog

Theres not enough Russian soldiers. The wolf in sheeps clothes needs to keep his Army at home, especially the best troops.

No troops will march in America. If the devils want to destroy America they have dozens of better ways.

Besides the post turtle has over 100 million people on his payroll. They will march where ever he points without Russia


Exactly!

Why would a country march in and attempt to conquer a country when that country is destroying itself?

My fear is nuclear destruction.


50 posted on 07/03/2013 1:31:13 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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