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‘The Lone Ranger:’ Will dredging up dead genres continue to pay off for Disney?
Yahoo ^ | By Will Perkins | Wide Screen – 43 minutes ago

Posted on 07/03/2013 12:05:23 PM PDT by Perdogg

You’ve got to hand it to Walt Disney Pictures. They took what was basically an extinct genre – the pirate movie – and spun the multi-billion dollar “Pirates of the Caribbean” franchise out of it. Take that, “Cutthroat Island”!

The House of Mouse is hoping to continue that lucrative trend of genre resurrection with “Pirates” director Gore Verbinski’s latest offering “The Lone Ranger,” a theme park-like Western grab bag starring Armie Hammer as the titular hero and -- you guessed it -- Johnny Depp as his Native American partner Tonto.

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1 posted on 07/03/2013 12:05:23 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: DollyCali; Perdogg; EveningStar; Borges; Mr. K; Blondie; altura; mylife; Mama_Bear; Jack Deth; ...

The last western I saw at a theatre was “Unforgiven”


2 posted on 07/03/2013 12:08:32 PM PDT by Perdogg (Cruz-Paul 2016)
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To: Perdogg

Pirates was banking on a tie in to a major attraction at Disney (like the near bomb Haunted Mansion.)

This is trying to bank on a franchise that few under 40 have ever experienced. The only way this one works out profitably for Disney is if they made an entertaining movie (see Haunted Mansion.)


3 posted on 07/03/2013 12:08:50 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Perdogg

i thought the indians were all pissed off about white guys playing indians, did liberals get a free pass card on this?


4 posted on 07/03/2013 12:10:45 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Perdogg

It’s already tanking. This movie was a disaster from the day they started filming. In fact, it was almost cancelled because of the projected budget but costs were reined in. It still cost 250 million to produce. Disney is going to eat a huge loss.


5 posted on 07/03/2013 12:10:50 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Perdogg

I would rather see a big sky western in a theater than some CGI stuff suitable for Ipad.


6 posted on 07/03/2013 12:10:50 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Perdogg

That was a good one. I think we own it.


7 posted on 07/03/2013 12:11:56 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Perdogg

Silverado is still a favorite.

I even liked Depp in Deadman, even if it was in black and white.


8 posted on 07/03/2013 12:13:08 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
i thought the indians were all pissed off about white guys playing indians, did liberals get a free pass card on this?

Don't they always? Let's ask Alec Baldwin how it feels to lose all those endorsement deals over calling a British reporter a "toxic little queen." Oh wait.

9 posted on 07/03/2013 12:16:40 PM PDT by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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To: Perdogg

Johnny Depp is the draw. But how the movie maneuvers through the the twin booby traps of postmodern “sensibilities” and political correctness is what may make me rent it when it’s available through Netflix. The old cowboys vs. Indians formula is dead as the dodo and can never be resuscitated.


10 posted on 07/03/2013 12:17:30 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Perdogg
Then

Hi-Yo, Silver! A fiery horse with the speed of light, a cloud of dust and a hearty "Hi-Yo Silver"... The Lone Ranger! With his faithful Indian companion, Tonto,...

2013

With his faithful Native American partner, Tonto..."

Sounds "gay".

11 posted on 07/03/2013 12:18:07 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Former member of the GOP useful idiot voter base.)
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To: Dahoser

I didn’t even know the indian guy was Depp. I couldn’t recognize him under all that plus the weird headdress they put on him with the crow.


12 posted on 07/03/2013 12:20:53 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Perdogg

A critic on Fox & Friends really slammed this movie this morning and said that no children should see it. He said the begginning and the end were solid, but the middle was incredibly violent. He didn’t know how it got a PG13 rating.


13 posted on 07/03/2013 12:21:26 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

When I saw the previews for the movie, I thought it was a joke. Who would cast a flimsy metrosexual to play a cowboy hero?


14 posted on 07/03/2013 12:23:47 PM PDT by aimhigh (Guns do not kill people. Abortion kills people.)
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To: Perdogg

Jay Silverheels


15 posted on 07/03/2013 12:24:19 PM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: Perdogg

I just cannot stand the overuse of special effects and the superhuman theatrics in today’s movies. It just gets more ludicrous as time goes on. Since nobody today can act they either have to strip or blow stuff up.


16 posted on 07/03/2013 12:27:34 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Perdogg
I was wondering about the timing of the renovation of the Big Thunder Railroad attraction at Disneyland that's going on right now. I'm now wondering if they're reimagining it as a Lone Ranger attraction, the same way that they added Johnny Depp to the Pirates attraction.

-PJ

17 posted on 07/03/2013 12:27:49 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Perdogg
The Lone Ranger will be Disney's greatest franchise since John Carter!

(yeah, I'm P.O.ed that they screwed that one royally, too. I have all 11 books -- they could've been set for a couple decades.)

18 posted on 07/03/2013 12:28:50 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: aimhigh

The same people who cast a flimsy metrosexual (Brandon Routh) to play Superman in Superman Returns?


19 posted on 07/03/2013 12:29:27 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Government: Slimy used car salesmen writing laws forcing you to buy their cars)
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To: Perdogg

There was never much of any “pirate movie” genre.

Pirates of the Carribean was a Disney ride. I fear what the ride is now, since this overwrought movie franchise took over. Probably completely reconfigured the old ride to reflect weird stuff in the movies.


20 posted on 07/03/2013 12:29:58 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Perdogg

Does it matter? They have “Star Wars” now. It’s basically a license to print money.


21 posted on 07/03/2013 12:32:40 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater
Does it matter? They have “Star Wars” now. It’s basically a license to print money.

They could kill that goose trying to get to the golden egg too.

22 posted on 07/03/2013 12:34:31 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Perdogg

>>The last western I saw at a theatre was “Unforgiven”

That’s the only Clint Eastwood movie since 1973 that I didn’t see at the theatre. I was pushing Poseidon missiles around under the Irish Sea when it was in theatres. (OK. Unforgiven and Bridges of Madison County, but was Bridges a real Eastwood movie?)


23 posted on 07/03/2013 12:35:30 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Secret Agent Man

To me he looks like a South American “native” medicine man.

That throws me off enough.


24 posted on 07/03/2013 12:36:56 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Perdogg
This movie looks like a western done by people who hate westerns and everything about westerns. And they don't think too much of their audience either.

I might be just a poor schmuck and not a bigshot Hollywood producer, but that doesn't sound like a winning formula on the screen or as a business model.

25 posted on 07/03/2013 12:37:46 PM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

It has a prostitute in it. Thus do I know just from the previews it is not a kid’s movie.

Nothing is ever made to inspire kids with the right motives or actions anymore.


26 posted on 07/03/2013 12:38:44 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Future Snake Eater

“Once Upon a Time in the West.” Best western ever...great stars.


27 posted on 07/03/2013 12:39:18 PM PDT by Datom (Still runnin' "Against the Wind.")
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To: Datom

Yes...and one of the best soundtracks ever.


28 posted on 07/03/2013 12:42:48 PM PDT by Perdogg (Cruz-Paul 2016)
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To: Perdogg

I remember a Saturday afternoon in the ‘50s when there was not a young boy to be found playing outside in my neighborhood. Everyone was at somebody’s house (only a few had a TV) watching the first TV run of “The Legend of the Lone Ranger.”


29 posted on 07/03/2013 12:44:46 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: Perdogg

If they had done it right and not caved to every PC impulse, this might have paid off handsomely for them indeed.


30 posted on 07/03/2013 12:45:11 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Secret Agent Man

Johnny Depp is claiming partial Indian heritage of indeterminate origin.


31 posted on 07/03/2013 12:50:59 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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Has anyone on this thread actually seen the movie?


32 posted on 07/03/2013 12:51:32 PM PDT by Politically Correct (A member of the rabble in good standing)
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To: FlingWingFlyer; Revolting cat!
2013

With his faithful Native American partner, Tonto..."

>> Sounds "gay".

Smells like a remake.

< /Lenny Bruce >

33 posted on 07/03/2013 12:54:37 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Perdogg

My 2 best “modern” westerns aside from Clint’s are “Open Range” and “Tombstone”.


34 posted on 07/03/2013 12:58:47 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Politically Correct
Has anyone on this thread actually seen the movie?

Logic and reason don't play well with a lot of people here.

35 posted on 07/03/2013 12:59:58 PM PDT by EveningStar ("What color is the sky in your world?" -- Frasier Crane)
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To: Secret Agent Man
i thought the indians were all pissed off about white guys playing indians, did liberals get a free pass card on this?

They have that covered. Believe it or not, some Indian tribe inducted Johnny Depp as a member earlier this year. At least someone in Hollywood was thinking ahead.

36 posted on 07/03/2013 1:01:43 PM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: Perdogg

I’ll probably wait till it comes out on Redbox and rent it for a dollar. It takes a lot for Hollywood to convince me something is worth going to see at the movies anymore.


37 posted on 07/03/2013 1:03:07 PM PDT by Durbin
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To: Perdogg

I can’t stand to even watch the ads for this clunker. The Lone Ranger in a three piece suit!!?? And a mask? Looks like a Wall St. banker.


38 posted on 07/03/2013 1:07:55 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: max americana

“Open Range” is my absolute favorite. I love “Unforgiven”, etc, but nobody plays a cowboy as well as Robert Duvall...:)

Favorite scene: When Robert Duvall wakes the chloroformed deputies and sheriff up with a nasty violin concerto and cowboy-booted tap dance...:)

Brilliant!


39 posted on 07/03/2013 1:10:56 PM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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To: Perdogg

Not unless they stop whimpifying any white male that shows up on the screen.


40 posted on 07/03/2013 1:27:14 PM PDT by madison10
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To: rlmorel

Robert Duvall’s speech in the bar with Costner and the sheriff about a man’s right to his own property, by rumor, was ad-lib as he is a closet libertarian. Duvall on the set, didn’t like it that they were filming in canada when he thought they should hire American actors, which pissed off the local canadian media.


41 posted on 07/03/2013 1:27:24 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: max americana; rlmorel

Duvall has had quite a career, starring in both the Godfather and Lonesome Dove. Amazing.


42 posted on 07/03/2013 1:30:28 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Harriet Meiers is looking pretty good right about now.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Another movie I loved him in was “Secondhand Lion”

A very versatile actor!


43 posted on 07/03/2013 1:44:13 PM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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To: Perdogg

This year’s ‘John Carter’...


44 posted on 07/03/2013 1:49:34 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I rode it in California years ago, and I recently road the one in Florida. It’s different, but not too horrible. There is a lot of “Johnny Depp” or whatever his name is in the new/reconfigured ride.


45 posted on 07/03/2013 1:51:39 PM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. ItÂ’s been found hard and not tried')
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To: Secret Agent Man
i thought the indians were all pissed off about white guys playing indians, did liberals get a free pass card on this?

No one is sure just WHAT (injun, paleface, alien, JarJar Binks long lost cousin, ???) Johnny Depp really IS!

46 posted on 07/03/2013 2:35:59 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: Perdogg

I bought Fist Full of Dollars DVD at a garage sale for a buck. Love Eastwood movies in general, never saw it, took a chance. Loved it. Best value for a dollar I can remember.


47 posted on 07/03/2013 4:12:10 PM PDT by Eddie01 (Liberals lie about everything all the time.)
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To: count-your-change
I can’t stand to even watch the ads for this clunker. The Lone Ranger in a three piece suit!!??

Natches, In this version he's a constititional lawyer. eddicated at Harvard Law.

48 posted on 07/03/2013 6:00:27 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("New Yorks Finest" are now "The Untouchables")
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To: Oztrich Boy

Now I understand why Depp wears enough paint to hide his face.


49 posted on 07/03/2013 6:13:04 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: Perdogg

The weekly hate movie thread. Just don’t see the damn movie if it makes you so upset. Free Republic has turned into a teen site for some reason. What is next? See which actress has the biggest boobs?


50 posted on 07/04/2013 7:00:29 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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