Posted on 07/04/2013 2:28:45 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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Vicksburg Civil War PING!
The lose of Thomas “ Stonewall “ Jackson at Chancellorsville was the beginning of the end for General Lee.
If God decides who wins wars maybe you wanna tell me why he thought North Vietman should win.
The far logistically inferior South never had a chance to win unless they could convince Europe to stick their nose in an help them or unless the North lost it’s political will and some pansy peace democrat got elected President in 1864.
And Jackson was “called home” because some jittery moron on his own side couldn’t keep his finger off the trigger. “It’s a damned Yankee trick! Fire!” I hope that idiot was shot for incompetence. Guns are for responsible people only.
You must be a “damn Yankee” like me.
You see we “don’t get it” because “Yankee Schools” “fed us lies” about the sainted Confederate “patriots”.
Grant first got Lincoln's attention with his Paducah Proclamation.
Even then a very jealous Halleck tried to cashier him.
Yes, and without Lincoln's favor, Grant probably would have quit after Shiloh. Lincoln's quote about Grant was, "I can't spare this man, he fights."
Grant finished in the middle of his West Point class, and was a Quarter Master during his first stint in the army. When the Civil War broke out he was a clerk in father's store, and was turned down for multiple commissions. When he finally got one he was given a very difficult group of men to command.
He dodged a bullet...literally...at Shiloh.
He came within inches of having his head blown off a couple of times at Belmont.
Anyway. I'm a big fan of Grant since reading his memoirs some years ago which I recommend. While being very talented in many areas, he had close to zero ambition. He went from being a nobody to the most famous man in the world within the span of a few years.
Personal memoirs usually bore the bejeebers out of people. Grant's captures the reader like a fine novel.
Actually General Joseph Johnson was in Command. President Davis had named him the Western theater commander. Johnson had 6,000 men at Jackson MS, when Grant attacked the city with two corps. Johnson withdrew and ordered Pemberton to try and join up with him. Pemberton army losing the battles of Champion Hill and Black River bridge to Grant, withdrew toward Vicksburg. President Davis told Pemberton that defending Vicksburg was to be his primary mission. Pemberton, caught between Johnson (his immediate commander) and Davis followed Davis’s orders and fell back to Vicksburg.
Actually Grant never commanded the Army of the Potomac. General Meade remained in command of the AOP until the war was over. In March of 1864 Grant was promoted to Lieutenant General and given command over all of the armies of the United States. Because of its importance, Grant chose to make his headquarters close to the Army of the Potomac for the Spring campaign in 1864. Because of his proximity to that army, some folks believed he commanded it but the command remained with Meade.
Have you ever seen so many marble and granite monuments
Huge things. CSA and Federal
We used to drive over mid 70s from Jackson and skateboard the hills
I went last year....the Cairo and whanot
My grandad and dads old construction biz renovated the original museum.....courthouse.... grand gulf outbuildings
I was around all that a lot as a boy
We had family homes on prior battlefields....old Vicksburg road etc
Now in Franklin u live on yet another
A southern fact of life outsiders can’t relate to
I visited Grand Gulf last fall, and enjoyed the state park. Good little museum, and the outbuildings are great, especially the little church.
My daddy, as a very young man, used to work on some of those riverboats. Doing what, I don’t know, he didn’t talk too much (about anything, he wasn’t a “talker”). He also worked on the V’burg paper as a very young man (I have an old picture of him from app this time, he looks like the spitting image of Elvis. Rolled cuff khakis, slicked back, jet black hair (my daddy’s was natural, he had hardly a grey hair till the day he died), shirt sleeves rolled up, shoes, the whole thing.
At one time, he worked all the vending machines and juke boxes in V’burg. I remember sitting in the old “Glass Kitchen” restaurant, I think it was called, on Clay St, waiting while he did whatever he did to the machines. And some restaurant-it may have been that one-with the little juk boxes on the wall at each booth.
The Union used hugh seige mortars mounted on ships. They projected a large shell high into the sky which arched into the city instead of coming in almost flat. Very effective and terrifying.
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